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Title: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: Nathan Bowen on January 31, 2008, 10:55:00 AM
Would anyone who knows about groves recurves please shear with me? One primarry interest is the dynastress limbs. I think I have read that they only had 1 lam of wood? What is the dynastress process and what made it so special that it recieved a US patent?
Thanks
Nathan Bowen
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: bacon on January 31, 2008, 11:18:00 AM
I don't have the link saved but a few months ago I looked him up on the web. I found a page that had great info about him and his bows.
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: bayoulongbowman on January 31, 2008, 12:47:00 PM
I wish I had got me Lefty Groves....what good bow!
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: Bill Carlsen on January 31, 2008, 04:06:00 PM
The Dyna stress method is a two step lamination process. The first process laminates the glass backing to the single maple core and is set in a form that almost make the letter "C"....similar to an Asiatic  bow. Afterwards the belly glass in laminated to the first on a normal form. The real trick in the process is the use of glues. Once the first step is completed the second one has to be done with an adhesive that will cure without damaging the first glue up. The first step, which really has an acute recurve is where all the pre stress is built into the limb.
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: BenBow on January 31, 2008, 05:20:00 PM
My Groves Spitfire has 2 wood lams. The main one is thick and the other is about the same thickness as the belly glass and goes up the belly side of the riser.
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: Kevin Lawler on January 31, 2008, 10:29:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BenBow:
My Groves Spitfire has 2 wood lams. The main one is thick and the other is about the same thickness as the belly glass and goes up the belly side of the riser.
If you look closer it stops just past the fadeout. It's cosmetic only.
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: Bill Carlsen on February 01, 2008, 09:09:00 AM
Hey, Kevin....still shooting the Mag II?
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: BenBow on February 01, 2008, 09:31:00 AM
Kevin I'll have to check that out. The limbs painted right now though
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: Kevin Lawler on February 01, 2008, 06:58:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bill Carlsen:
Hey, Kevin....still shooting the Mag II?
Well I do have a Widow now but the Groves holds a significant place in my heart. It's the only bow that I have ever killed a deer with. The one I got from you got too heavy for me. It's out there somewhere. I am now shooting a 56" Mag I that has some nice wood in the wedge (custom). I had it one week before I shot the deer in my profile. I wish I still had the 4 others that I let go.    :banghead:
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: Kevin Lawler on February 01, 2008, 07:13:00 PM
http://bowhunting.net/evaluation/GrovesBows-Mag2.html#top
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: joe skipp on February 01, 2008, 08:57:00 PM
My 56" Groves Mag I...


(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/sf1oak/PB210022.jpg)
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: joe skipp on February 01, 2008, 09:00:00 PM
Same bow....

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/sf1oak/scan-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: BenBow on February 01, 2008, 10:08:00 PM
Kevin I checked my Groves and it does have 2 wood lams and 2 glass and they run butt to tip. I'll try to get a clear picture but definitely 2 complete wood lams.
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: BenBow on February 01, 2008, 10:19:00 PM
Here's a picture. He had great glue lines.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o241/galnmax/g2lams.jpg)
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: Kevin Lawler on February 02, 2008, 07:32:00 PM
That's interesting BB. What year is it? What length and poundage?
Here's a pic of how mine fades out at the wedges.
(http://users.touchnc.net/kevinlawler/groves1.jpg)
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: Kevin Lawler on February 02, 2008, 07:38:00 PM
I'll join in this Groves love fest.
(http://users.touchnc.net/kevinlawler/groves2.jpg)
(http://users.touchnc.net/kevinlawler/groves3.jpg)
(http://users.touchnc.net/kevinlawler/photo3.jpg)
(http://users.touchnc.net/kevinlawler/photo4.jpg)
(http://users.touchnc.net/kevinlawler/05trad05.jpg)
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: BenBow on February 02, 2008, 07:49:00 PM
Kevin I don't know what year it is. It was a 62" and 60# @ 28". I found it in a craft/antique shop in a little town in western Nebraska and bought it for $25. It was right handed and I'm left handed. It had a small blem on one limb so I didn't think I should sell it to someone so I cut the limbs off and made them work on my metal riser. Sure not a good looking as yours but shoots strong.
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: Zmonster on February 02, 2008, 07:55:00 PM
Kevin,

Thats a great looking Groves. Ide love to find one in similer condition. They are pretty popular here in southern CO. They are shooter for sure.

Casey
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: Kevin Lawler on February 02, 2008, 08:03:00 PM
BB, I wonder if the additional weight and length required the additional lam?

Zman, you should have seen the all cocobolo one that I had.
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: LONGHORN on February 02, 2008, 08:05:00 PM
Beautiful bows those Groves,nice pics,thanks for posting them.
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: BenBow on February 02, 2008, 08:17:00 PM
Kevin that sure sounds reasonable.
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: joe skipp on February 02, 2008, 09:31:00 PM
I was a dealer for Groves and was ready to place another order for myself for a Mag II...Bubinga and Phenolic riser with black glass....Unfortunately, Mr Elrod decided to pack it in...what a shame. Someone should pick up the business but the asking price is a tad high.
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: LONGHORN on February 02, 2008, 09:41:00 PM
I should have ordered one years ago,almost did    :knothead:    :banghead: .
I still have the brochure somewhere he sent me back in 1982.
Ya a shame for sure.
Serge
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: returntoarchery on February 03, 2008, 08:51:00 AM
Wow Kevin. That's a nice looking bow. I wouldn't mind owning one of those.
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: Bill Carlsen on February 03, 2008, 09:22:00 AM
Here's a pic of my Mag III all phenolic riser. I had Jim make me this bow before I went on my first caribou hunt. It has been real good to  me.

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/Arrowworks/Blackgroves.jpg)
Title: Re: Groves recurve info wanted
Post by: joe skipp on February 03, 2008, 12:25:00 PM
Bill...thats a beaut! What length and poundage?