Trad Gang
Main Boards => Hunting Knives and Crafters => Topic started by: Ragnarok Forge on June 16, 2011, 12:53:00 AM
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I have been planning to join the ABS for quite a while and just never got around to it. With a little encouragement from a MS who posts here I joined up. Now it is three years and then time to test. I am looking forward to working on some new styles and refining my finish work.
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Way to go, Clay. I know you'll do great when the time rolls around. I'm hoping to join sometime down the road, hopefully later this year. Be sure and check out the ABS website forum-lots of good stuff on there.
Jeremy
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Jeremy,
I have been poking around on there already. Toss your $60 in and join up. We can head back to Blade and test together. That way we can share the costs. Better yet we could plan a vacation trip across country with the families and just happen to hit the Blade show to test for JS.
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Now that sounds like a great plan Clay :thumbsup: . I've been trying to figure out the testing criteria (time as member) and I think I missed the window for 3 years since I'll be joining after the Blade show took place. Either way I look forward to being a member.
Jeremy
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This is good to hear. A new beginning. :)
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Let the fun begin!
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Fresh meat ;) Good deal guys, keep in mind that if you attend one of the ABS approved schools/classes you can knock a year off that wait. Believe me it'll be here before you know it.
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Hey guys, since the american bladesmith expo in San Antonio is going to be judging MS and JS in 2012 is there a school closer then Old Washington Ark. I've been there once for a hammer-in, but from austin its about 7 hr. drive. if i could find a place close to here that would be great and i could knock a year. Also if you guys know of any JS or MS in my area or where to find these guys let me know
Thanks
Dana
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Jeremy,
I was reading up on the testing times last night. It seems that you can test at both of the shows the ABS holds each year. There is Blade and then a winter show where you can test. I believe that one is held in January. So joining after Blade does not appear to loose you a lot of time for membership before testing. It would be nice if the winter show was closer than Atlanta, if it is in Texas we can slip in some hog and javelina hunting in addition to testing.
Thanks for the welcome guys. I am already trying to figure out my timing and knife styles. I am going to dig into the MS and JS lists for local smiths I can have critique my work as well. I know for sure of a JS that lives up by Seattle and there is a school up in Seattle with a MS. There is blacksmithing school in Beaver Creek Oregon about 30 miles from my house that opened recently. I plan to swing down there and visit to see if they have JS or MS member in the ABS who works or runs the the school.
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Jeremy,
I am not sure if you have heard or not but the Northwest Blacksmithing Association is having a huge annual gathering in mid August at Government Camp in Oregon. The site is right at the summit of the pass over Mt. Hood. You would be more than welcome to crash at my place. Or you can camp at any number of lakes or state campsites in the area.
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I joined January 1 and will be testing in 2013. Sounds like we might have a good Tradgang contention that year.
Dana,
I think Old Washington is your closest ABS school. Master Smiths Johnny Stout and Harvey Dean are fairly close to you. The best way is to go to the ABS site and scroll through the list of JS and MS knife makers. That's how I found my closest MS- Tommy Gann in Canton.
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Dana, distance doesn't matter too much because the Intro course lasts two weeks.
You won't be driving back and forth.
7 hours is a piece of cake when you consider the return on your time and $$ investment.
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This is good to hear gentlemen. :clapper:
Once you join ABS do you have to test within a certain amount of time? I am aware that there are limits as to how soon one may test.
My reason for asking and maybe concern is that I too have joined at the apprentice level. Given where I am at now I think that I will be on a much greater extended timeline. My more immediate reasons for joining was to support ABS & further my personal learning....and heck it is quite motivating !
I hope to attend the Ohio event this summer and be all ears & eyes.
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Look me up, Scott. I'll be there.
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I know it's only 7 hr away, but I was just looking for a place that was closer so I could bug them for knowledge like I do you guys. San antonio is only 45 min away so I could be there alot. Maybe oneday we will have one
Dana
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Welcome to the ABS Guys! I attended the Intro Course in 2009 at Haywood CC in NC, which was a great experience and recommend it highly.
I am still an Apprentice and would have been eledgable to test at Blade. However I lack practical experence and have not made enough knives. Maybe one day soon I will be ready!
Steve
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Potomac Forge
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Well Clay-I just joined the ABS. I got an email back from Sally Cassidy from member services and she confirmed the 3 year rule-3 full years in by the time you test. So technically I'm going to be under 3 years by a week at Blade in 2014 but she said if I joined right away the Chairman would likely waive the week or so I'm short. So, I put some tools on the back burner and took the plunge. Anyone else out there looking at wanting to test in 2014 might want to jump on their membership in short order unless waiting til 2015 is fine.
Jeremy
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Jeremy,
That is awesome. We will have to look at some cost sharing to reduce the price of the trip out to Blade in 2014. Did she mention how you would go about getting that waiver? Do you need to get it now or in 2014? I will need to get one too.
I know what you mean about spending cash and putting off tools. I have an eye on a Grinder in a Box from Polar Bear Forge to upgrade my two wheel grinder into a proper three wheel. Last week I spent $550 getting a radiator put in my Suburban, This weekend I am putting a new radiator in my Subaru for $300, Toss in a $1,000 in new tires for the suburban last week, Plus $60 for joining the ABS. I am tapped out on free spending cash for a while. All this means I am not buying the GIB or the carbide file guide I need.
I am looking around my local area to find a JS or MS that would be willing to look over my work and critique it to help me meet the ABS requirements for passing the panel review blades. I would reccomend you do the same.
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She didn't specify as to when the waiver would be given but I inferred from her email that it would be something looked at when we put in our applications to test. We'll probably want to call and check around the time we're looking to do it. Definitely up for cost sharing. It'd sure be a neat deal to test with the guy who helped me make my 1st knife :) .
I couldn't agree more about getting my work critiqued-just seems foolish not to. Especially when there are so many out there willing to help out. I've got a JS about 15 minutes away and I'm a member of the newly formed Idaho Knife Association. We have monthly classes and there are some great guys with a lot of knowledge. Bruce Bump is over in Walla Walla and Bill Burke right up here in Idaho City. Also Ed Caffrey in MT is about a 9 hour drive. All in all, great options for me. Now just need to work really hard and try to catch up with you :) .
Jeremy
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With that much qualified help and classes you will catch up quick. I have to get my finish work and fitting of guards down. I have the forging and heat treating pretty well covered. I am looking at buying a kiln in August which will help me nail down the heat treat for sure.
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Be aware there is no specific "waiver" to cover your time delinquency.
If there was to be some consideration in your favor, what you might do is contact the current "NEW" chairman, Jim Batson, and beg for a little leeway.
But I would NOT waste any time!!! I would NOT wait until test time - get it on the books now.
I had a little "glitch" on my membership as well, even though I waited four years to test, but I took the issue straight to the then-Chairman, Greg Neely in 2007, at the Blade Show and got it in writing a year in advance.
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Congrats Lowell & Jeremy. Theres a master smith about halfway between you guys, in Walla Walla WA. Very nice guy and has always been very helpfull.
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Karl-
Just got another email and was told there was no guaranteed waiver and its up to the Chairman. She said with similar short time frames, the waivers have been granted in the past but I think I like your plan of contacting the Chairman now to get something concrete. Would definitely make for a bad day to have done all the prep and be ready just to find out at the last minute I couldn't test. Being so new to the association, is there a "proper" way to contact the Chairman? Don't feel like stepping on toes unnecessarily...
Jeremy
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Thanks, you inspired me. I have been to one hammer in and had been considering joining so I did too - last night.
-Jim
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You wouldn't find out "at the last minute" anyway, you need to inform the board well in advance of testing with proof of membership, performance test completion, etc. along with your intent.
Go to the ABS website and look under "Bladesmiths" on the home page. Go to Mastersmiths and Jim Batson's email and phone number are right there.
Learn about that web site.
If you have questions and such about you new gig as an ABS Apprentice, post them there, not here.
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Will do-thanks.
Jeremy