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Title: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: bowmac on February 03, 2007, 06:50:00 PM
How many of you hunt in Early Period Clothing? Here's how I usually dress for Spring & Fall Hunting. Braintan leggings, Moc's, Cotton and/or Linen shirts etc. Kinda like an Eighteenth Century Longhunter. Sometimes I do take my Flintlock that I made. Don't mind the snow.


 (http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q271/bowmac_photos/LegginsMocs005.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: bowmac on February 03, 2007, 06:52:00 PM
For cold weather I add more layers, change to Sno-pac Moc's that I made and warmer head gear.

 (http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q271/bowmac_photos/LegginsMocs001.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: Pete Patterson on February 03, 2007, 06:53:00 PM
Mac,

That's great.  I like it.
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: Mr.Vic on February 03, 2007, 06:53:00 PM
Pretty cool Court I would but we don't have deer big enough to cover me. next rabbit hunt you show up wearing that and the sheriff will stop us.
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: bowmac on February 03, 2007, 06:55:00 PM
If its really cold I add a Wool Hood that I spun and wove up. I also made a pair of Wool Mittens out of some wool that I spun and wove. If it gets much colder than this I stay in the house. The heavy wool blanket shirt I made about 15 years ago for a trip in the Rocky's. Looks about like the ones that Ron carrys.
 (http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q271/bowmac_photos/LegginsMocs003.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: bowmac on February 03, 2007, 07:01:00 PM
Thanks Pete, guess I was bored today and didn't have anything better to do with my time.

Vic don't joke that has happened twice before in the country and several times in towns. Heck once I was buying some coke in a grocery store and they called security and then the Sheriff's dept. Everyone had a good laugh in the end.
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: Billy on February 03, 2007, 07:03:00 PM
bowmac - those are nice! we need to talk, I just posted today asking about a 'how to' for leggings and mocs. got good replies , was off checking the hints, and look what i find right back here ...LOL
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: arraflipper on February 03, 2007, 07:28:00 PM
Court,

Better stay in this weekend or they will be calling the fellows in white coats to come for you.

It does look good, sure beats the camo and blends in much better, to me!!!!!!
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: woodchucker on February 03, 2007, 07:43:00 PM
WOW!!!!! GREAT PICTURES!!!!!

Every now and then my sons and I get dressed up in Eastern Woodland Indian garb.

(My mothers father was a full blood Penobscot,Also.....we believe than my fathers mother was an Oneida)

Eastern Algonquin/Iroquois style leggins were usualy garterd above the calf of the leg and were long enough to cover the ankle.A breech-cloth was worn to cover your butt and a long tunic (shirt) or a blanket prevented "drafts" LOL.

You outfit looks OUTSTANDING Court!!!!! But.....I JUST have to ASK.....(where do you put YOUR wallet?????)   ;)
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: bowmac on February 03, 2007, 08:33:00 PM
Thanks Chuck, I quite often wear a breechclout also. As for the wallet if you look close in the pics I am wearing a small wool pouch over my shoulder and snugged in tight under my left arm. This holds my necessaries. My Grandma on Dads side was a full blood Choctaw. It was a little rough being raised in local white people's territory when your Dad was a half-breed. To this day some call me a Red Nigger (including my Father-in-law of 26 years).
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: bowmac on February 03, 2007, 08:50:00 PM
Here's a nice warm way of sitting back at camp shooting the breeze etc.
 (http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q271/bowmac_photos/CourtsCapote.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: bowmac on February 03, 2007, 08:52:00 PM
Here's a pic of my better half (The Real Boss), holding a sash I made. I think this belongs to Mr. Vic.
 (http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q271/bowmac_photos/Sash1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: Jerry Jeffer on February 03, 2007, 09:25:00 PM
Nice capote (spelling) Bowmac. I had one I made just like it, also red. Used it hunting so much it finally fell apart. Sure is warm. Been thinking of making another, but I've been kind of lazy.
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: Lefty on February 03, 2007, 09:39:00 PM
Court, that is very cool!
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Post by: Mr.Vic on February 03, 2007, 09:41:00 PM
HOLY COW ! Blessed am i among Tradgangers. I believe that will hold my knifes and belt pouch just fine. Thank you my friends That is beautiful! Nothing wrong with having red in you, My family started way back in Georgia as Cherokees and on the walk they stopped in Missouri. And my wifes great grandmother was Sac and Fox. It's all about mind and spirit, not blood anyway. Some people will never understand.
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: Izzy on February 03, 2007, 10:36:00 PM
Man, those are fine.Clothes like that are worthy of museums.Really,if you think about it wearing them has got to make you think about those who wore them way back when and that beats looking at gore tex on stand and thinking "how'm i gonna pay that cabelas bill?" Know what I mean?
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Post by: Izzy on February 03, 2007, 10:38:00 PM
I thought you meant the arrow.I was gona say I lost it and want it back.Nice looking arrow!
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: Curtiss Cardinal on February 03, 2007, 10:44:00 PM
I would dress in period type clothing but I have no skill at sowing let alone spinning and weaving. I've always wanted a capote but they are usually out of my price range and it is hard to find a blanket big enough to make a 2XL-3XL size. A friend just had his wife make me two voyaguer toques and I am ordering one of the new solid grey longhunter shirts from Ron.
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: bowmac on February 03, 2007, 10:57:00 PM
There's nothing wrong with that C2. What I didn't make I traded for. The toque I traded some spinning for. I had dyed the red into the wool using cochneal (a desert bug). Who would imagine. I traded some braintan for the Jack Hubbard early ugly knife. The rest I pretty much made with the help of my Wife. One of the shirts I dyed with walnut hulls and the other I used sumac berries. My braintanned leggings I smoked with oak punk wood and then dyed in sumac berries. Funny how so many natural things can be used. I dyed one of my other shirts with Indigo blue and it turned out fine except when wearing in hot weather it bleeds onto my skin and I look like PaPa Smurf. Trial and error.
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: Billy on February 03, 2007, 11:10:00 PM
i was reading today that the Seminoles used Mahogany wood to dye their leggings.
 As I understood it, the mahogany even added water resistance.
How did 'we' lose so much knowledge .....
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: bowmac on February 04, 2007, 12:24:00 AM
Things got too easy Billy. I spent 27 of my years trying and making things the old way. I also used to run a historical style blacksmith shop here at home, planted my own flax and took it through the processes and spun my own linen, worked with the State Historical Society and Museum, wrote numerous articles about the Ioway Territory in the 1700's & 1800's. I mainly researched and wrote about the Sac & Fox Indians and how it related with the early Fur Trade. Located the sites of 5 18th Century fur trading posts on the Des Moines River in a 250 mile run. Made my own Historical style musical instruments and even wrote a song about the Des Moines River. I'm not really bitter about it but I finally realized that no one around here really cared what our History really was. Most people just want to see the hype and glory not the daily living aspect of our Past. Anyhow I had better not get into that.
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: Mr.Vic on February 04, 2007, 01:02:00 AM
You my friend,like others and me were born in the wrong time.
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: Billy on February 04, 2007, 08:34:00 AM
I've got family back through the Ojibwe Nation,with a French fur trader mixed in; did some sightseeing/research in the museum in St.Ignace,MI. Cool place.
Seems the day to day information that I search for is the hardest to get...
Folks here usually nail it with their help,though.
Thanks for the help, all ;and inspiring pics, Court.
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: Killdeer on February 04, 2007, 08:48:00 AM
"Thanks Chuck, I quite often wear a breechclout also."

For which we are all duly grateful.   :eek:  

The day to day is what I crave in any discussion of the old days. When reading books by Eckert, or articles from Muzzleloader magazine, these little details flesh out the events, add motivation to the actions of the characters, and reveal the might of their deeds. I would like to know a lot more, but have limited time for research these days. Simple things like food prep (Boiled chocolate?) and weatherproofing mocs often get short shrift.

I would love to see a Primitive Skills subforum in the How-To forum here. Your articles, Bowmac, would hold much interest for me.

Killdeer   :thumbsup:
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/TG%20Uploads/Costume/VornCherokeeandme2.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: fflintlock on February 04, 2007, 08:55:00 AM
Let's try it like this

  http://new.photos.yahoo.com/fflintlock/album/576460762340106783/photo/294928803582804522/2

I could'nt get the pic to post.
We do a little 18th century reenacting as well
Jerald
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: woodchucker on February 04, 2007, 12:00:00 PM
Killy.....Yer killin' me dear   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: bowmac on February 04, 2007, 01:02:00 PM
Killdeer if you use the 18th Century style accepted Chocolate get ready to have one of the best caffeine rushes of a lifetime. I just throw a chunk in my copper boiler with some water. After heating well and stirring a bunch wah-law instant caffeine. As for waterproofing moc's there are plenty of modern methods available. I still prefer Bear lard that I renderd. But then I'm not always right in the head. As for the breechclout I prefer linen to wool or braintan. It is a little gentler on the body.
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: woodchucker on February 04, 2007, 01:10:00 PM
I prefer wool.....gives me that "warm,fuzzy" feelin'     ;)
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Post by: Billy on February 04, 2007, 01:19:00 PM
Killy I enjoy Eckert as well, think it was you that mentioned hunting with Simon Kenton.
Those are the kinda of stories with lessons of old in 'em.
Things like; shallow hole, build small fire, cover yer'self with blanket, squat over hole and wait for 'hairy food' to wander by....
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Post by: Killdeer on February 04, 2007, 01:32:00 PM
Chawklit rush, here I come!!  :knothead:  

Killdeer  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Natural Camo Leggin's,Moc's etc.
Post by: Billy on February 04, 2007, 01:51:00 PM
it's been said "a REAL man wears a KILT"  
 no itchy burlap under there...
  :bigsmyl: