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Main Boards => Hunting Knives and Crafters => Topic started by: STILL-HUNTIN on September 03, 2010, 09:49:00 PM
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You guys have probably heard this a million times, but i am going to ask anyway....Where do I start? I have been reading a bunch of the posts, and this is something that really intrigues me. I am pretty handy, and I have to give this a try. So where did you guys start? Reading, talking with everyone here on the TradGang site? What, Where and How? Not sure if I am ready to take off and go to classes, but definetely think I have a the drive to dive in and try my hand at this? The talent that I have seen thus far, here on the TradGang site, well to say the least inspires me to give it a try. So where do I start to try the basics with modest tools? I can invest over time but I need to find out if I can turn out a decent product before I invest the capital?
I would be starting from scratch, not much knowledge base from a metal working prospective. My knowledge base lies in wood and wood working.
Thoughts?
Thanks in advance,
Rob
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robert
i think most people start with a stock reduction knives and progress to the forging processs later
expensive tools are not needed to make a good knife ( knowledge and skill) play a larger part in the build
a first timer can get by with a good file ,sand paper of varies grits (lots of elbow grease)a drill of some sort and a small propane torch to anneal (soften) the tang
for drilling pin holes
i have a book called the $50.00 knife shop by master smith wayne goddard that i would be willing to loan you
lots of good info inside
here on this forum we are proud to have a master smith several journeyman smiths and a ton of other knowledgable builders
all are willing to help and give information very freely
so ask a ton of questions
and most of all
HAVE FUN
kevin
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Kevin,
Thanks for the advice. From everyhting that I have been reading so far, a stock reduction, File Knife, is where I think I want to start. It is all of the individual steps that I am unclear about? I have a pretty good resource for finishing the handle, and I have a basic understanding of the overall principles, but I am searching for some more detailed information on the steps. Taking the file from, A file, to ready for the handle. Is the book mentioned above, a good resource for a sort of step by step?
Thanks,
Rob
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I recommend you go ahead and join the ABS. You will not be sorry. Here is a sample of the willingness to share things that you need. Lin
web page (http://www.americanbladesmiths.com/ipboard/index.php?/topic/131-introduction-to-bladesmithing-by-jim-saviano-master-smith/)
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In addition to the courses, the ABS also has 2-3 day symposiums all around the country for about $55. Unfortunately you just missed a big one in Ohio: http://www.americanbladesmith.com/index.php?section=events&subsection=show_events_details&events_id=22
Looks like the three left this year are Kansas, California and Arkansas.
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Lin,
What a great resource! Quite a bit of information to get through and digest.
Thank you.
Rob
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Robert, I agree with the above posts, but there are many paths to take. Definitely get some books and use the internet as resources. i started by putting handles on kit blades from Bob Engnath,RIP. I learned a bunch and the blades were superb. forging isn't for everyone...but the first knife forging class i took eliminated the mystery...$120 well spent for a weekend class. If you want to forge...take a class, it is well worth the time and money.Hook up with knifemakers in your area.Good luck
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I started with 'the Great Knife Build-along' on the Fainter Trails forum. I'm not sure if the thread still exists, but I have a pdf of the whole thing including pictures. PM me and I can email you the file. Great way to start with simple tools. And after that, take Mr. Halverson's advice and read Wayne Goddards book. Then pester us all with questions.
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Rob, I usually advise budding makers to buy a kit knife and complete it. You will soon determine if You enjoy the proccess. Kits are available from Sheffield Knifemakeing supply, and several other supply co. Get a copy of Blade magazine. There is a lot of info as to suppliers and how to do things. Good Hunting Knifemaker
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I absolutely agree with all that has been said above (you can't beat hands on experience!!), That being said, on the tools side of things, you might want to get a craftsman 2x42 grinder and put one of these on it:
http://elliscustomknifeworks.hightemptools.com/ceramicplatenliners.html
You can do some great things on this little grinder once you get a workable platten on it. Mirror perfect plunge cuts are the tip of the perfectionists iceberg, and a good work surface is key. I started out free handing a chefs knife on a kmg (read very thin), and while it is a trial by fire (entirely a game of concentration), I would highly recomend working off a rest to perfect your technique. For $120 or so, I think its the best tool for the money in the shop. A good set of belts off of true grit and you are ready to go. Just remember to keep the steel cool and work slowly.
You have a great source of information with all the extremely talented and knowledgeable guys on here. Dont be afraid to ask (which you obviously aren't), and find your own style. Looking forward to your first work!!
Nathan
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still-huntig, where are you in Ohio? Im just out side of Findlay. If your not to far, I could share what I know. Mark
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Books of course, Join ABS, go to hammer ins and other gatherings. Research on the web like crazy. And most definately find local blacksmiths and bladesmiths to visit and learn from. Take classes if locally available. The classes will improve your skills the quickest.
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Endless amounts of information in books, talking to locals that enjoy the craft, and of course here on this site. Honestly I got my start with a piece of O1, a craftsman 1x30 belt grinder, and a "there's now way you can make a knife" comment from my brother. Now I am hooked.
TBRA