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Title: Brass pins
Post by: longbowman on July 22, 2010, 10:32:00 AM
Where do you guys get the pins for your handles?  Also, when you make a knife out of an old saw blade how are you cutting it out?  Obviously, I'm very new.
Title: Re: Brass pins
Post by: Lin Rhea on July 22, 2010, 11:04:00 AM
Sometimes you can find brass rod to cut up for pins at a welding supply and there is always knife maker supply businesses. I would start with 1/8 for most applications.

You can cut blade blanks out with die grinders, plasma cutters, etc. I forge my blades, so I dont do it that way.

You might look back on some of the past posts and pick up some information too, but let us know if you need help. Lin
Title: Re: Brass pins
Post by: Ragnarok Forge on July 22, 2010, 01:29:00 PM
Lots of big hardware stores carry copper and brass rod in their bolts and nuts areas.  That is where I get mine.  

I tend to anneal the larger blade stock and then use a metal blade on a bandsaw to cut the larger piece into forgable chunks.  Another option if you have large stock and know someone is to have them water jet cut to shape and then practice stock removal to make the knives.
Title: Re: Brass pins
Post by: Bobby Urban on July 23, 2010, 12:01:00 PM
Not the quickest method but commonly used by many hobbie knife makers is a Dremel tool or the equivilent.  Draw a knife blade design on paper or cardboard then cut it out and trace that onto the saw blade with a sharpie.  Cut it out with the Dremel.  Probably best to leave it a little proud when cutting it out to give room for error.  At least on the first couple.  
If you are using circular saw blades it is best to get ones that do not have carbide teeth.  This way you know the steel quality throughout and not just some junk holding good teeth.  A good way to anneal these is to get a raging fire going and throw them into the coals and forget about them.  When the fire finally dies and cools(next day) your blades should be much easier to work with.  Don't forget to heat treat the blades before adding the handle if you do this.
Bob Urban
Title: Re: Brass pins
Post by: sticshooter on July 23, 2010, 01:17:00 PM
A knife maker on here told me he use's nails. And I have used them also. Cheap and work great.<><
Title: Re: Brass pins
Post by: Baffinland Archer on July 23, 2010, 04:05:00 PM
Hey Longbowman,

All of the above will work. I have used a zip wheel on a grinder. Fast but extremely dangerous. One slip with a zip wheel and you can open up your chest or slice off a finger in the blink of an eye.

Here is a low tech, but effective and safe method:

First off, wear eye protection. Seriously.

Mark out your knife pattern on a saw blade with a permanent marker. Use a cold chisel, hammer and a good solid steel plate or anvil if you have one (doesn't everyone own an anvil?). Start off by tapping along the outline of the pattern until you have made a score mark. This part is critical to ensuring the right shape so take your time and be patient. After you have scored the outline, then you can put some muscle into it. Don't hammer continuously in one spot. Keep moving the chisel along the outline and hammer (bang bang, two taps), putting more force into it as you move along the outline.  Once you chisel out the blade, you can file it down nicely with a metal file. I have made quite a few knives in this manner and have even used circular saw blades, which are very thick and tough, to make a knife. It is hard work but it does work. If you find it to be tedious and labour intensive, just think of individuals who have ticked you off over the years and the work will have an added satisfaction as you pound away your pent up aggression!

As Sticshooter suggested, you can use nails for rivets to affix the handle. I have done this before with great success. The key here is to make sure you have a little hollow on each side of the handle so that when you pound on the nail, it will mushroom into the hollow, making a smooth finish. This can be faired with a metal file.

Alternatively, I have used brass "Chicago" bolts. These are also called "screw posts". They come in various lengths. I actually prefer these because you can screw them down good and tight and if you need to, you can replace the handle simply by unscrewing the bolts. The downside is that Chicago bolts/screw posts are not as pretty a finish job as smooth rivets. You will also have to countersink a hole in the handle to ensure that the screw posts are flush with the handle.

Disclaimer: I am not expert knife maker. I have made many over the years using the methods described above. I learned my techniques 30 years ago from an old native man. My finished work could be charitably described as "utilitarian".

Hope this helps

Robert