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Title: Fast recurves
Post by: Gordon martiniuk on February 03, 2007, 11:30:00 AM
Who? makes the Fastest recurve and are they as fast as Hybred long bows
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: Shawn Leonard on February 03, 2007, 11:54:00 AM
Jack Kempf,Border, Morrison, OL has one too from what I hear. Please remeber speed does not kill a quiet bow you can shoot accurately is what ya want.  Yes, some are as fast as the hybrids. It owuld all come down to a few fps.  Shawn
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: ROB TAYLOR on February 03, 2007, 11:55:00 AM
thhhhwwwwooooooooopppp!  That's the sucking sound made when I ran from the room as fast as I could....but I'll be back...with popcorn!     :biglaugh:  

-Rob
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: sar on February 03, 2007, 02:27:00 PM
Black swan curves are fast as well.
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: SteveB on February 03, 2007, 03:29:00 PM
Add DAS(depending on limb choice) and Fedora to the list as well.

Steve
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: buck-tamer00 on February 03, 2007, 04:07:00 PM
my 55lb spirit ll recurve smokes my 460g arrows. and it only cost under $200.00 brand new.
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: limbow on February 03, 2007, 04:13:00 PM
PALMER and SILVERTIP
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: Bjorn on February 03, 2007, 04:19:00 PM
No list of fasssst bows is complete without the Fedora 560. Oopsit was already here. LOL!!
BTW my 560 is as fast, as quiet and as easy to shoot well as my Fedora extreme.
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: joe skipp on February 03, 2007, 05:52:00 PM
I agree with Shawn, speed isn't everything. A properly tuned arrow with sharp heads and your ability to hit the vitals 25 yds and under will outweigh the small differences in bow speed from one bow to the next....

With that said...the Kempf T/D Recurves both Kwik Styk and Stealth and Mikutas recurve have plenty of speed with heavy arrows.
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: Mike Burch on February 03, 2007, 06:19:00 PM
Most modern recurves that I have owned are faster than the Hybrids. The hybrids just bridged the gap between the old style longbows and the recurves.

Some say, they are the best of both worlds. I can agree....Mike
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: Bowhntr on February 03, 2007, 07:22:00 PM
Martin Saber was a fast one, so is the Quillian Canebrake, Patriot was no sleeper either.

Tom
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: James Wrenn on February 03, 2007, 08:30:00 PM
I suspect the Morrison is as fast as any recurve you can get.The Bordor with the carbon limbs might be close but you would need a crony to tell who the winner is between them so it really does not matter.Picky by what you like the looks of and how it feels to you is the best route.Numbers are just numbers.jmo
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: RC on February 03, 2007, 08:38:00 PM
Fastest recurve I`ve ever had was a Patriot II .Sold by Archery traditions by Jim Kenny. I think Fedora jr. made it. It was swift.RC
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: Seeking Trad Deer on February 03, 2007, 09:42:00 PM
I have shot the Morrison, Fedora, and Palmer bows but none of the others mentioned here.  I didn't crono them but I would rate them fastest as Palmer, Fedora, Morrison.  Shot many other bows not mentioned here and these three were faster than all of those.
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: Longbowz on February 04, 2007, 12:29:00 AM
Bill Stewart MCTD is one of the fastest.  At least according to Norb Mullaney.  :readit:
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: nc recurveman on February 04, 2007, 12:37:00 AM
65# Kod mag w/770gr arrow put it up againgst anyboby
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: JL on February 04, 2007, 02:51:00 AM
I like fast and I have had a lot of fast bows. Like others said, fast is just one thing to factor into when looking for a bow. With that being said, these are some of the hands down fastest curves I have had the pleasure to own and/or shoot;

Border
Zipper
Morrison
Palmer
Big East
Marriah Thermal
Soveren Ballistic

And I'm sure I'm forgetting quite a few others but those bows come to mind. I have the Border and Thermal on my rack now. Shot my Border thru a chrono at Denton Hill last year. I shoot a 30" gold tip arrow with a 125 gr head, 3-5&1/2" sheild cut. Max reading was 211 FPS.

JL
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: TSP on February 04, 2007, 10:35:00 AM
Don't be fooled by speed claims/hype, you can make almost any bow a 'speedburner' by minimizing overall arrow weight.  You might not be able to hit anything with it, but it'll be fast.  :)  
What you're more likely to rely on as a measure of how good a bow is might be more in the collective line of grip comfort, smoothness of draw, quietness, consistency of results (with matched arrows), aesthetics, overall 'feel' (fun to shoot?)...and of course what memories it leaves you with as time passes.

Its hard to know what fits best until a person's style and form have been figured out and they have some experience with shooting for awhile.  Until then just about any decently made and weighted bow will do.  When time to buy 'custom', trying before buying is always a good approach.
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: owlbait on February 04, 2007, 10:40:00 AM
My Windstorm Santa Ana recurve went 85 mph on the way to Ohio!
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: Deer Slayer on February 04, 2007, 10:45:00 AM
Now that is funny right there...I don't care who ya are thats just funny!  :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: Shawn Leonard on February 04, 2007, 11:42:00 AM
Yup, I almost forgot, the Ballistyk was a smoker, probably the fastest I have shot. Shawn
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: ROB TAYLOR on February 04, 2007, 11:44:00 AM
The reality is that there are lots of "fast" bows...but as said above, "fast" may be relative.

It seems that the only halfway level playing field in this arena are Norb Mullaney's tests....but alas, they are proprietary property of the bowyer and if he doesn't like what Norb finds, they don't get published (at least that's my understanding of the process with Norb)...additionally, his work is too few and too far between...and he tests all kinds of different weight bows, so you are stuck trying to extrapolate numbers for your target weight or even to compare them to another Norb test.

So, finally, any of the "shooter tested" bows guys spoke about above are no doubt in the speedy top 10 of traditional curves....now you'll just have to shoot some to see which one(s) feels right to you.  

Get out the checkbook!   :knothead:

My $.02

-Rob
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: Tbilisi on February 04, 2007, 11:58:00 AM
Sovereign Trident and Ballistic are the fastest I have shot.  And one of the smoothest.
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: Barney on February 04, 2007, 12:02:00 PM
I have a Rivers Edge I'm pretty impressed with.
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: BONES 1 on February 04, 2007, 12:18:00 PM
Habu
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: owlbait on February 04, 2007, 12:40:00 PM
Why doesn't someone set-up at the Expo's and Redevous' with a bow scale, arrow scale, and a chronograph so we could test all these bows ourselves and report the results? Seems like $5 a test would be reasonble.
Title: Re: Fast recurves
Post by: hormoan on February 04, 2007, 01:26:00 PM
The results from the past several weeks shooting our techno hunt.
1-adcock acs @57#'s at 28" not positive of larrys draw length but guessing at 28" 424 gr arrow (if I remember correctly) averge 195 fps

2-Robertson 3 pc 45lbs at 28 shooters draw 29 524 gr arrows @155fps

3-my Hoyt Gamemaster 50# @28" true draw lenght most of the time! 29.5" 524 grain arrows @175fps

4-my Blacktail Elite 1pc 50#@28" 524 gr arrows @185fps

I'll take my Blacktail for looks and speed but most of all quite.

                  Brent