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Title: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: George D. Stout on January 16, 2008, 06:30:00 PM
Got a Samick Verna today and am impressed with value for dollar.  It shoots great and is good to look at as well.

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Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: John D on January 16, 2008, 06:33:00 PM
Very nice. Looks good.
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Post by: Bjorn on January 16, 2008, 06:33:00 PM
Nice woods!
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Over&Under on January 16, 2008, 06:56:00 PM
I always wanted to try one of those.

Looks like a real nice bow, especially for the money.

Jake
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 16, 2008, 07:21:00 PM
Nice lookin' bow, George.     :thumbsup:  

Looks like red elm limb veneers.  Wonder what the cores are ... maple?  

I've always taken 2nd looks at that bow, and nearly pulled the trigger on one a few timed - good luck with it!
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: George D. Stout on January 16, 2008, 07:30:00 PM
S/A Rob.  Belly is S/A
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: deadpool on January 16, 2008, 07:49:00 PM
so thats what it looks like up close!!

not bad!
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Nala on January 16, 2008, 08:01:00 PM
Good Lookin' bow, how about some FULL LENGTH pics of it string and unstrung?

Nala
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Gaff on January 16, 2008, 08:35:00 PM
i gotta see some full size pics of this thing!!
im about call and get myself one for that price!!!  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:  
it looks a little like a horne brush bow.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 16, 2008, 08:41:00 PM
(http://www.abbeyarchery.com.au/mm5/graphics/l_verna_med.jpg)
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: George D. Stout on January 16, 2008, 09:54:00 PM
That's exactly it.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Alex.B on January 16, 2008, 09:57:00 PM
Thanks Rob, nice bow George. the back of the shelf seems to be so far back, it almost looks like an overdraw type o'thing    :)
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: DannyBows on January 16, 2008, 10:07:00 PM
Very Nice! Those Koreans know their Archery.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Dale Hajas on January 16, 2008, 10:34:00 PM
Nice bow George!!
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Gaff on January 17, 2008, 12:45:00 PM
I COULDNT HELP IT!! i just ordered one...
should be here in a few days...
179.00 how can you beat that!!!  :knothead:    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Killdeer on January 17, 2008, 06:30:00 PM
Pretty bow, George!
Gaffey, where did you get a price like that?

Kaffey  :D
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Gaff on January 17, 2008, 07:40:00 PM
hey kathryn, i ordered the bow from Lancaster archery supply. the bow was 279.00 marked down to 179.00
they are discontinuing that model, so they're lookin to clear them out!    :eek:    

i dont even know if i can shoot a longbow. but i like the look of the thing so thats a start!i do have a question, the bow says that its 64" long.
does that mean when its strung up, or unstrung.

my bob lee recurve was 60" and that felt good. im just a little nervous that 64" might be to long.

jamie
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: George D. Stout on January 17, 2008, 08:15:00 PM
It's amo 64" so it will take a 61" string or there abouts.  The profile is rather compact so I doubt you will have any issues about that 64 inches. It's actually easier to maneuver than a recurve that's 60".  You will like it.  Durned thing really shoots.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Gaff on January 17, 2008, 09:05:00 PM
im excited about geting the bow george.it should be here by wed.. the next thing that i need to find is a quiver. i like the looks of the thunderhorn, or selway quivers. i guess ill need to start lookin in the classifieds.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 18, 2008, 05:40:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by gaffey-27:
im excited about geting the bow george.it should be here by wed.. the next thing that i need to find is a quiver. i like the looks of the thunderhorn, or selway quivers. i guess ill need to start lookin in the classifieds.
Check out the Eagle's Flight or Shrew bow quivers - both are sponsors and either works GREAT.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 18, 2008, 08:22:00 AM
George, did you check the bow's draw weight on a scale?  I think you've got a 50#er, wondering how accurate that is ...
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: George D. Stout on January 18, 2008, 09:45:00 AM
Rob....mine came in at 54# on my scale.  I anticipated it could be heavier, but since I draw 27" it is right about where I want it.  They do vary as I understand and usually a pound or two over.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 18, 2008, 10:07:00 AM
I've noticed that Samick runs a bit more and Internature a bit less than their labeled draw weights.  At the LAS blow out price tag, this hybrid longbow should be a winner.  Maybe even I need one?  :D
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Paul Mattson on January 18, 2008, 10:13:00 AM
Alot of people under estimate the Samick bow line.  They make a great looking and shooting bow.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Rick Wiltshire on January 18, 2008, 11:14:00 AM
Broke down and ordered one myself - should be here middle of next week.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Over&Under on January 18, 2008, 11:44:00 AM
I broke down too, mine should be here soon.

I am getting very good at talking myself into new bows...  :jumper:
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Pete W on January 18, 2008, 11:45:00 AM
George:
Where are you measuring the draw at, Front of riser or belly of riser/Low point of grip?

Pete
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Gaff on January 18, 2008, 01:09:00 PM
NICE!!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: bigislandmark on January 18, 2008, 02:03:00 PM
Aloha All,

Thanks for the heads up on da bows. Ordered two this am but not the long bow. Ordered the Equus for myself at 55 and Leopard at 50 for a friend. Will proberbly be here in a week or two. Again thanks------I no think can go wrong at dat price.

Mahalo!

        Mark
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: George D. Stout on January 18, 2008, 02:12:00 PM
Pete W....I've always measured my draw to the back of the bow at the shelf, since that is where I draw an arrow.  I don't use the pivot plus method.  That's why my draw is longer on a recurve bow.  Old dogs....you know.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: TexMex on January 18, 2008, 02:44:00 PM
Beautiful!
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Gaff on January 22, 2008, 07:54:00 PM
well i recived my samick today in the mail!! as soon as i saw the package i unwrapped it, strung it up to a 7" brace height, and ran outside to take a couple of test shots.
the bow shoots quite nicely.seems pretty quick, and has almost no handshock. so for 179.00 i feel pretty good about things.

there was one problem.the string seems to be frayed at each end, about 3' from the ends. i was thinking about calling lancaster archery in the am and see what they can do for me.

all i need to do now is order all the other stuff i'll need to shoot the bow from 3 rivers.
like a glove, rest,silencers, field tips, a quiver, and arrows.  :eek:    :eek:  

the arrows i was shooting are from about 1960. and are warped woodies my father-in-law had in his basement.   :knothead:  

oh well.. all you others that bought this bow, how are yall makin out???

jamie
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 22, 2008, 07:59:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by gaffey-27:
... there was one problem.the string seems to be frayed at each end, about 3' from the ends. i was thinking about calling lancaster archery in the am and see what they can do for me....
Ya sure that's fraying and not strands of the Flemish loop splice popping out?  Get yerself some bees wax (or any kinda string wax), work it into the splice, melt down and smooth out with a piece of paper.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Gaff on January 22, 2008, 08:49:00 PM
Rob, im so new at this that your probably right!
i guess that i could just put some wax on it.

i dont even now what kind of sting it is.
 :confused:  
i want to shoot 150 grain heads, so what do you think would be a good size arrow. aluminum or carbon, preferably carbon..

thanks for your help  jamie
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Dan in Poulsbo on January 22, 2008, 09:35:00 PM
Well after all of conversation, I also bought one tonight. I had been waiting to buy something like this and for that price, why not now. I cant wait for September.

Thanks for all the discussion-Dan
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 24, 2008, 02:00:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by gaffey-27:
Rob, im so new at this that your probably right!
i guess that i could just put some wax on it.

i dont even now what kind of sting it is.
   :confused:    
i want to shoot 150 grain heads, so what do you think would be a good size arrow. aluminum or carbon, preferably carbon..

thanks for your help  jamie
I prefer AD tapered carbons but I also use cheap Beman ICS Ventures.  

Carbons can be a chore to sort out what'll work best for your bow and your shooting style, and it's always best if ya can seek out other archer's arrows to try out.  

Don't be too locked in to the weight point ya think ya wanna use - be more concerned about the bow's true draw weight at yer exact draw length.  Then look at *suggested* shaft spines that *might* work for ya.  Then set up yer bow to get at least decent bare shaft flight, then think about FOC, arra GPI, feather types and configs, point/broadhead types and weights, and whatever.  

What draw weight didja get and what's yer draw length?
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Gaff on January 24, 2008, 03:23:00 PM
thanks for the reply rob. i bought a 50lb @ 28".
the problem is, i dont know what my draw is. i would guess its 26-27" but i dont really know for sure.
i e-mailed george about this very subject, because he has the same bow, same draw weight, and roughly the same draw length.
he said he is shooting 2016 28"long, with 125 grain tips. and is getting good arrow flight.

im just nervous because i dont know where you work, but i cant afford to spend all kinds of money on arrows, just to not be able to get them to fly right.  :thumbsup:  
dont let me down friends..  :pray:  

jamie
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 24, 2008, 03:50:00 PM
Hmmm, maybe it'd be neat if we started something like a "Trad Gang Test Quiver" that could be passed on to members in need, and that could be added to as time goes on.  There are SO MANY arrow types, lengths and spines, but at least it would be SOMETHING to use as a ballpark and the cost would be postage.  

It'd probably be neat to add 2 arras at a time that are exactly the same, but one fletched and the other bare.  A data sheet should accompany the TGTQ that denotes the spex on each pair of arras -  exact length from nock grove to the back of the point (no broadheads!), spine (if known), the total exact weight of each arra (if known),  and the manufacturer/model number.

Be aware - a HUGE factor to consider is how well you can shoot the bow yer looking to outfit with ammo.  If you have any kinda form issues, if yer a noobie, if that bow ain't really good for ya for any number of reasons, yer gonna probably have consistency issues with any arra.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Rick Wiltshire on January 24, 2008, 04:14:00 PM
I got my 55#er yesterday.  Sure pulls harder than it is marked.  I normally shoot 53/54 @ 27 and thought a 55#er would fit just right - but I am reaching my pull weight before my anchor is reached.  Guess I either need to learn to pull the weight or reduce it some on my own.  I was going to work on the tip overlays anyway so I might as well take it down a few pounds while I am at it.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Gaff on January 24, 2008, 06:00:00 PM
rob i really like our idea. mabey some others will read this and follow thru. i was just shooting in my basement, and as far as groups go, at 15 yds i can keep most of my arrows inside a 6" circle. but all the arrows are sticking out of the target with the feathers kicked to the right.
i borrowed some 2018 autum hunters from a friend.
i think they have 125 grain field tips.

the bob lee i owned before this one was setup using 1916s. and they flew like darts.

i appreciate all your help rob....

jamie
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: George D. Stout on January 24, 2008, 06:29:00 PM
Jamie....if you e-mail me your address, I'll send you two 2016 aluminums set up the way they shoot well for me.  If anyone else wants to send a carbon or two, or another size aluminum, then you could have some comparisons.  I can mail them tomorrow or Saturday if you get me your addy.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Gaff on January 24, 2008, 07:44:00 PM
thank you so much george! i would love that, if  its not to much trouble... this is why i am so in love with this site!! where else on the web can you go and get great advice, meet wonderful, honest people from all over the world.    :notworthy:  

thanks everyone   jamie gaffey
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: T.J. on January 24, 2008, 07:47:00 PM
Wheeeewwww George that's a beauty!
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 24, 2008, 07:48:00 PM
Jamie, what's yer draw length?
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Gaff on January 24, 2008, 08:04:00 PM
i dont really know rob. i would think about 26"
the arrows my friend let me borrow are 26 1/2"
and the come pretty close hitting my finger.

so a 27 1/2- 28" would be bout perfect..

you guys are super..
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: George D. Stout on January 24, 2008, 08:59:00 PM
Jamie....I'll get them out by Saturday.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: George D. Stout on February 03, 2008, 12:59:00 PM
Jamie....how did your arrows work for your?  I put a 14 strand dacron string on mine and it quieted it down a lot.  My wood arrows are flying well now.
Title: Re: New Longbow/Hybrid Photos
Post by: Gaff on February 03, 2008, 01:35:00 PM
they havent showed up yet george. i thaught they would have been here by now. i hope nothing happened to them. i think 2016s will fly pretty good, i borrowed 2 26 1/2" 2018s from a friend of mine and at close range they hit nock right. so i think that means they are to stiff.

so a 28" 2016 with a 150 grain head should fly well, i hope.
i would really like to shoot carbons for durability, so im gonna be getting some gt35-55 from shawn leonard.

man ill tell ya what george, that samick verna bow we bought is probably the best 180.00 ive ever spent!! seems quick, quite, and looks great to!    :wavey:    
jamie

P.S. george i dont even know what kind of string is on the bow now. it looks hand made. also can the shoot ff strings?
and lastly, i set my brace height to 7" and shot probably 300-400 shots over the course od 2 weeks. then i was shootin outside and noticed that the brace height was much shorter, about 5".
so i just spun the string around some, and got it back to 7". is that normal for a sring to stretch like that so much???