For the guys that have killed a bunch of animals with Easton Axis shafts, how've they been holding up compared to your other carbons? You like?
I'm shooting CE's and planning to make the switch to Axis during the off season. Front loaded of course. They sure penetrate foam nicely. :)
i shoot axis and a deer has been the only thing to break one, i shot and axis arrow through a 55 gallon drum, i use to shoot arrow dynamics trad lites and they broke with target practice. i think it helps arrows when they are tuned.
Ray
I shoot Axis and I find them very durable, had the opposite as shawn, I broke more CE Heritage than axis.
I had a 150 lb hog break one last month, but not until it went clean through both shoulders taking out everything in between. just the nock was sticking out. I really like their skinniness. with weight tubes and 125 grain razorcaps mine weigh in at 650 grains or so.
I had the same results as Shawn; my CE's far outlasted my Axis shafts. As long as CE stays around, I see no reasons to return the the ST Axis. That said, they are still a tough shaft that preforms quite well, no matter the task ahead....
I have not had an Axis break in the front, but had two break in front of the nock. Have also broken about the same number of CE's, up near the foot.
Is there any real difference between the Beeman MFX and the Easton Axis? I've thought about giving the Beeman's a try.
Axis shafts have apparently been discontinued by Easton.
I shot Axis 400's for awhile. I had great penetration with them, far better than any other carbon I had shot. I just prefer the cedar's!
Axis discontinued? I just saw advertisment for the new FMJs that ar camo?
Not doubting ya just wonderin? I like axis shafts. Shawn has been known to have tried bout everything that a bow will eat so I trust his experience.
But that said everyone seems to look for the magic-never have to buy another arrow-shaft? they dont make such a shaft. I think axis or CEs OR any other shaft will hold up well for awhile but none can take constant abuse or impacts forever.
latr
J
I found the axis to hold up relatively well in target practice. However game animals are different, except for complete pass-thrus. I have broken Axis, CE, and Grizzly Stiks.
I have some beeman mfx that I really like. I haven't broke one yet, but have not shot an animal with them either. I feel that they are spined mor consitant that any thing else I have tried
I really liked the CE but they are made in korea,So I went with easton made in america,Not to mention they are A really good arrow.
Since I started footing my Axis and Beman shafts with short piece of aluminum I have never had one break. On animals that they do not completely penetrate the can break. With a heavy FOC they penetrate better than any arrow shaft I have ever used in the last half century.
Axis shafts are still being made but with a new technology...."nano tubes"...whatever that is.
Beman and Axis are pretty much the same shaft. However the Bemans are heavier and seem to be a bit tougher. I prefer them to the Axis.
Nanotubes can make the arrows much stronger. It is a way of forming carbon into an ordered form different from graphite or diamond. They can have a tensile strength 50X greater than steel but also can be 30X stiffer. If applied properly nanotubes could make for some extremely durable arrows.
I don't know how tough of an arrow someone wants.Any of them can break when shot into something they should not have been or when into an animal that pins the shoulders or gets rolled on to.A glanceing blow on a hard edge will break any arrow.Heck I broke a fish arrow last year. :)
The axis seem pretty tough to me but I don't stump shoot with most of my arrows so have never needed any footings.I shot one without a point through a fench that had to have every hole drilled to get a nail through it.No damage at all the shaft but it was a straight impact.
Easton has switched over to the hit system on most of there carbon arrows so the axis are not going anywhere.They might be called different names but the hit type shafts are here to stay for a while so no worrys on that end.jmo
Bill, which Beman shaft do you prefer ??
I like the Axis. I found out years ago it does not matter what I shoot an animal with, if the arrow is sticking out of the amimal and it runs or rolles over the shaft will brake or bend 9 out of 10 times. I don't think any shaft is unbrakable if put in the righ strain or bind. But if I kill the animal I shot I don't care if the shaft brakes. If it don't brake thats a +
QuoteBut if I kill the animal I shot I don't care if the shaft brakes. If it don't brake thats a +
That is my thoughts exactly. :) It did it's job.Kind of like guys that shoot through an animal with a broadhead and then go bad mouthing it because they hit a rock and bent the tip when it came out the otherside.It did the job it was ment to do so what is the problem? ;)
My biggest concern is that people aren't finding strength deficiency when compared to other popular carbons.
I've shot CE's and Gold Tips; from my hunting experiences I would rate them the same as far as strength. Definitely more than adequate for deer hunting.
If the Axis or Beman shafts perform as well, or better, that's all I'm looking for. I've seen that they penetrate better.
When you make the shafts smaller in diameter and keep the same spine that means you have to make the walls thicker.So really they should be tougher than the other two.I know they are tougher than GTs.I think you will find them ok in the durabilty department.
Pat: I like the Black Max and the MFX (camo finish). I have some of the traditional shafts but the finish is not as smooth and makes a slight noise as I draw the arrow. I may try waxing them or applying some type of polish to the shafts to quiet them down. I noticed the same thing with the ICS shafts...I wish the trad finish was smoother. However, I have taken a number of animals with them, including a moose this year, and several bear over the last few years and they perform as well or better than any hunting shaft i have used since the mid sixties. I like heavy FOC so I use the 100 grain inserts and enough point weight to get me in the 200-225 range on the point end.
Bill I noticed the noise on drawing with the classic or wood grain finished Bemans too... I killed a deer with one this year but I heard the arrow as it was being drawn, the deer didn't.. Even so, I don't like that.. I've used the brass inserts too and or the 100 or 125 grain steel broadhead adapters.. I try to keep it in the 225 grain range on the business end. Mostly been using the Axis shafts but was curious about your choice.. Thanks
I've used the Axis shafts for 2 seasons and love em. I'm getting the best arrow flight of any shaft I used before. 200 grain field tips have been the icing on the cake. I did break one when I hit a rock. But i guess that's understandable!
I have the axis and the beman classic's. I prefere the bemans also. I had two axis break on me. I also shoot better groups with the bemans. I took two whitetails with the beamans and the arrows are all like new.
Well, I ended up with the Beman MFX 400's. They just look and feel like one heck of a strong shaft and they really dig deep into the target! I went with the MFX due to the higher grains per inch. These arrows are really tolerant of spine. I now only need this one shaft for all four of my bows which happen to vary from 52 - 57lbs. In the past I had different arrow combinations for each bow because the other brand shafts bare tuned differently for each bow.
My arrows at 28 1/4" with a 100 grain brass insert and 200 grain head finished out at 615 grains. I can't wait to hunt with these things.
BTW, I footed them with a 1/2" piece of 2018. It's a perfect fit for the MFX 400's. Snug enough you have to work it on and a little super glue makes it indestructable.
I have shot Axis Sts 340s for a few 3 years now. I switched from 2514 XX78s. But out of my compound, not a recurve so I don't know if this is valid for your purpose.
I have shot 8 or 9 deer, 1 bear, and 2 turkeys with them.
I broke 1 on a doe that I spined and she rolled over and flopped until it snapped.
I broke 1 on the bear. It went through the oppisite shoulder blade and stuck in the ground and sheared off at the shoulder when the bear jumped.
I broke another one on a doe that I shot through both shoulder blades. The fletching caught a large tree when she ran between 2 trees and snapped off at the fletching. The point end sheared off at the opposite shoulder 4" up from the broadhead.
I don't know of any other arrow that would not break under those conditions. Other than maybe a sleeved arrow, but I am sure it would bend beyonde repair.
I am not real concerned about what happens to a shaft after it has complete penetration. Just that it does not fail on impact or during penetration.
I will continue to shoot the Axis. I have found nothing better.
my way of thinking is that any arrow that has good penetration and kills the animal is a good arrow and it does not matter if it snaps or not as long as it does the job it was made for. there ya go hows that good or what. :goldtooth:
I have bEMAN MFX, aXIS , AND American ARROW Dynamics ... keep americans working easton or American arrrow dynamics for me...the worst arrows to me is GT...there the worst nocks, poorest quality...havent tried the new wood grain , afraid to...I have dozen Axis, great for targets small game... :wavey:
Gonna get some of the new axis "nano tue" ones here shortly. Also gonna try new heads this year???? maybe. Like my phantoms, BUT thinking of Woodsmans at 200 grains up front?
Still not sure just thinking on the new heads. But I gotta have a dozen arrows.
J