Post by: vermonster13 on August 19, 2006, 11:56:00 AM
http://www.huntsab.org/index.htm
Post by: vermonster13 on August 19, 2006, 03:30:00 PM
Anglers attacked by animal extremists
By Nigel Bunyan
(Filed: 19/08/2006)
A gang of masked animal rights activists has attacked a group of anglers, prompting fears that extremists are determined to widen the scope of their campaign of intimidation.
The 35 masked extremists had earlier disrupted a grouse shoot before being moved on by police.
A handful of people, some of them families, was enjoying a day out at the Bank House fly fishery, at Caton, near Lancaster, when the saboteurs arrived.
Lucy Belson, of Kirkby Lonsdale, Cumbria, was fishing with a friend when they suddenly found themselves at the mercy of the gang.
"They began throwing stones at my rod and one of them said, 'It's the easy way or the hard way. You've been sabbed.' They told me to pack up and go or I was 'going to get wet'."
Fighting broke out as two anglers on a nearby stretch of bank struggled with the protesters. Miss Belson, a resuscitation nurse at Westmorland General Hospital, in Kendal, said: "I decided to get out of there and go home but suddenly they all ran towards me waving bats and blocks of wood, shouting, 'Get her'. "I was jostled and they smashed my fishing rod."
As she broke away from the melee, Miss Belson saw another woman being punched in the face and several cars being vandalised.
"I was shaken at the time but now I am angry," she said. "They are cowards and I certainly won't be frightened to go back to the lake. I love fishing and I have been doing it since I was a little girl."
Lancashire police believe that the anglers were the victims of an opportunistic attack. Earlier in the day the saboteurs had tried to disrupt a grouse shoot at Lowgill, near High Bentham.
At the height of the confrontation, police called in the force helicopter, an armed response vehicle and nine other vehicles. However, there were no arrests and the saboteurs headed away.
Pc Duncan Thomas, the force's wildlife officer, said that saboteurs were increasingly attacking anglers.
"Both anglers and grouse shooting parties should be aware of the threat to them and they should have contingencies in place to protect themselves."
A Countryside Alliance spokesman said: "It does seem to be the way animal rights extremists are heading. Their issue is not animal welfare - it is about hating people. They simply want to cause trouble."
Last year animal extremists attacked anglers on the Grand Union canal, in Milton Keynes. Some of the fishermen were thrown into the water.
Post by: Ray Hammond on August 20, 2006, 08:07:00 AM
If one sab were to get a bullet in the leg the rest of them would think twice about pulling any more crap.
What a state the socialist republic of England is in: appeasement with Muslims has brought them to the point where they are about to lose their country, and now this...all because there are no real consequences when you do something wrong.
Kill people...spend a few months/years in jail and get right back out to do it again.
Beat up fishermen, and the police, who carry no weapons, can't stop a mob any more.
We are headed the same way if we aren't real careful.
Post by: bayoulongbowman on August 20, 2006, 03:04:00 PM
Post by: Ray Hammond on August 24, 2006, 04:23:00 PM
I actually corresponded with the perpetrator of this huntsab website Vermonster linked to...and got back a reply that they wouldn't debate me or carry on a discussion...they were only there to offer advice to others on how to end hunting.
they didn't want to play! Imagine that!
Post by: vermonster13 on August 24, 2006, 07:28:00 PM
Post by: vermonster13 on August 24, 2006, 09:24:00 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=402086&in_page_id=1770
Post by: BOWHAWG on August 25, 2006, 01:35:00 PM
Hey here is a good quote.
"Send one home limpin and keep on fishin!"
Post by: BMOELLER on September 02, 2006, 12:48:00 PM
Post by: JeDuffey on September 02, 2006, 09:40:00 PM
For those in NJ, perhaps some can make time to protest the protestors.
Post by: MI_Bowhunter on September 08, 2006, 04:37:00 PM
Their MySpace page is just a hug fest for anti hunting.
I actually feel physically ill after perusing their info.
I don't really agree that one bullet would make them rethink their tactics. (I do believe that sportsmen, as well as anyone, should be able to defend themselves if they feel their life is in danger, i.e. someone threatening with a bat) I think it would reinforce to them what they already believe is true, that all hunters are just brutal sadistic beasts hell bent on destroying nature. (Something we all know is not true. Hunters are the most conservation and nature conscience people I know.) Look what has happened with the right to life groups they believe that the life of one doctor is worth the life of the potential lives saved. Don't think that these groups feel any different about the life of one hunter.
Unfortunately a few bad apples that make the headlines each year seem to be the basis for a lot of people opinions about hunters.
We don't hear about the 10's of thousands that quietly take their game and go home, we only hear about the idiots that shot the farmer’s cow, shot out the windows of the school house trying to hit that grouse or stuck a deer with 20 arrows but failed to down it.
I have encountered more than my share of these nimrods in the woods.
I have run in to several anti-hunters in my days (never in the field luckily) and very few of them have been willing to rationally discuss both sides if the issues. They believe what they believe and they don't want to hear anything else.
At the moment I'm not sure of the best option to counteract this.
Post by: Brian Krebs on September 09, 2006, 03:20:00 AM
I do think that hunters and fisherman should be able to defend themselves. I will: if I am in that situation.
The old police saying ( I come from that camp) is: if they hit you with their fist: hit them with your stick. If they hit you with a stick: shoot them with your gun.
That really is a reasonable policy; as I have seen many people die from one punch to the chin; and others from one hit from a 'stick'be it baseball bat or whatever.
I don't run from fights- I hope that I personally am never in these peoples positions.
I do greatly question why none of the attackers were charged or arrested.
Seems like the protesters attacked: and were treated like they were no threat to life and limb.
I don't see how this is a long term logical resolve to the situation.
They will grow to see that too.
Post by: Ray Hammond on September 10, 2006, 05:18:00 PM
A "gang" of people with baseball bats can easily kill someone in the heat of the moment with one blow....them going to jail won't allow someone to come back once dead...you'd be just a statistic at that point...and most of these folks have nothing your loved ones can sue them for that will compensate for your loss as father/mother/breadwinner/whatever. They're professional protesters most of them.
My father has two copies of newspapers in California...10 days apart...on the cover of the first one...a bunch of screaming protestors about "saving seals"..I think in San Diego? The next was 10 days later from the San Fran area -protesters holding up signs against a nuclear power plant- and there are two identical people in the front page photos of each paper- the same man and woman appear in both photos...400 miles apart.
Post by: Dryrot on September 11, 2006, 02:19:00 PM
My point is that sooner or later we are going to see a self defense wounding or killing of an anti-hunting protestor in this country and all ehll will break loose.
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