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Topic Archives => Memorable Hunts => Topic started by: Chad Lewis on August 22, 2005, 08:46:00 AM
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As some of you guys know, I shoot a 62lb longbow and have taken quite a few animals with the WW. I shot a bull a few years ago and didn't get great penetration but killed him neverless (dead in 80yds). I think some of the penetration issue was my fault since I didn't file the tip back and hit a rib on entry and it rolled pretty good.
After that elk, I went back to Zwickeys when hunting elk but still used the WW when hunting Muleys, Bighorns, Deer, and Antelope. I also said I didn't think that I'd shoot WWs at elk again and even posted here that I thought a two blade might be better for most people when hunting elk. Well, this year I'm going to use them again out of the same longbow at 610 grains. For some reason my Eskimos (Mental I'm sure)are not flying well but the WW's are flying like lasers out to thirty yards. I've always had extreme confidence in these heads for all the game I hunt (except for elk after the first go around)and after this past weekends antelope hunt and the way they are flying (I look at a spot on my target and there is a WW in that spot after release)I'm going with them for elk.
I hope to report next week that I buried my arrow to the fletch.
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I understand, as I've been getting ready for an elk trip. Been sharpening and trying different heads on my arrows. The WW, as you say, may be in my head, are flying where I want them every time. I'm still trying some new heads, but the WW are at the top of the list currenty.
Good luck, and please report back your results. And of course, get pics of the elk!!
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Chad,
I've played the BroadHead mind games myself. Still shoot the Z 4 blades at deer and bear, and the WW at just about anything else.
About 3 weeks ago I got a rare opportunity at a Buffalo. I got a deflection on a rib with a 2 blade at 15 yards and only got 5 inches of penetration, and then burried a WW to the fletch at 35 yards on my second shot into the 2000#er.
That 2nd shot answered a lot questions for me and my 70# Longbow.
Best of luck to ya this year.
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Chad, I've taken 1 elk with a WW and was with another fellow when he took one with one. I clipped a rib with the point bobbed off and he didn't. His curled a bit but still lodged in the opposite shoulder and fell in sight after going 20 yards. You need to bob the points off and pyramid them a bit. They are my 3 blade of choice for the bigger critters for sure.....O.L.
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Thanks OL...Yeah Chad...I pyramid the tips like OL said.....always.
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I shot a big hog with the wensels goingthrough the shield like butter.
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Guys,
Ever since that bull, I've coned them all back. I normally just take a file or clip them and then file again. Either way, I love the head and actually cleaned up the arrow I shot the antelope with Saturday (Number 1) and it's going to be ready for this Saturday.
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I'd take a lazer beam arrow over a "not so good" flying arrow every time for penetration qualities. (i.e. your Woodsman versus Z eskimo description above).
Your 62# longbow with 610 grain lazer beam arrows and a Woodsman will work very well on Elk.
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how much do you file down before resharpening ???
any pics ??
I'm leanig towards the snuffers too, because they fly much better of my non center shot bows.
this reports of ecxellent penetration are surely encouraging, because all I hunt is porkers.
M
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how much do you file down before resharpening ???
They use to have some comments about this on the web site about sharpening them.. it went something like just tilting the back of the head up while pulling it backwards untill you get rid of the needle tip.
I just take a pair of side cutter pliers and cut like a 1/16" off the tip and sharpen as normal.
It don't take much either way.
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Shot WWs at everything (including elk and several buffs) for a couple years then for really no good reason but the weight switched to 160 griz. Broke out the WWs again for speedgoats this year and their flying so good I'm thinking of shooting them on everything again. Gotta have a stone point or two in the quiver too though.
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Just wanted to let you guys know that they worked again. 25ish yd shot, 20 yd recovery.
The bull was heart shot which meant I clipped a bit of shoulder (not much if any) but a little to tight for my liking.
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/chadlewis/IMAG0030.jpg)
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Here is where the arrow hit. Alot of people think this would be a solid shoulder shot, but on elk, along with the rest of the deer family this is money in the bank.
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/chadlewis/IMAG0033.jpg)
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wow nice job! so how much penetration did you get?
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Chad,Your right,straight up over the leg is,"money in the bank"!!!
Way to go man..Congrats!!!!
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YEEE HAAA!!
Look at that!
Dang, I wish we had elk here.
Congrats on that shot and a fine bull.
How about a story? I've never hunted elk and would like to hear all about it.
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Great job Chad, and great shot placement.
David
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GO Chad !!
:thumbsup:
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:bigsmyl: :thumbsup:
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Good job Chad! How 'bout tellin' the story?
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Congratulations! :thumbsup:
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Thanks guys!
If I don't see an elk till next year it will be to soon.
I went up Tuesday afternoon to my elk spot and after setting up camp, went into an area that I know always holds elk. Well, I got there and up in the trees were three bulls. Beside those bulls (maybe 300 yds) was a group of cows and a bull running the show. The bugles were going and I figured I needed to get between the three bulls and the cows. It never happened. I had a serious hill to climb and the bulls all moved that way before I could reach them. That is all but one. I climbed up and bang, a nice bull is looking at me! He's about 30yds up hill and staring. I had my favorite came on (which consists of a brown t-shirt and some came pants) and slowly fell to my knees. The bull was still looking so I grabbed the brush around me and started to tear it off with my hands like another elk and he bought it. I closed the gap on him to about 25 yds and finally got a shot, and well lets just say I missed!
Next morning coming into the same area, I see a nice bull in the timber just ahead of me. I close the gap to about a solid 25yds and things are looking good. There is some brush between us and this is the only thing keeping me from shooting. He then turns and walks under me going down slope in the wide open at about 30 yds. I wanted to shoot, but decided against it. He finally saw me and was out of there.
The bulls were going off below me in a park, so I went down. By the time I got down most of the bulls had fed out of there. I heard one bull and cow called and bugled at him. He gave me a weak response, but it was already 10 AM and I was beat, and I'm sure he was too. I sat down in the park, in a good shady spot so if something decided to walk by, I'd be able to shoot. Not 10 minutes later I see a bull walking towards me. He then goes up the hill and around me, but I know where he's headed. At least I think I do....
I can hear him breaking brush and hurry to get around him (its flat where I was)and sure enough, that boy had a bit of a rough night and was headed for a very cold spring with some water. I gave him about 3 or 4 minutes to get in there to test the air, and settle down. I then started up towards him. I could hear him splashing in the water and kept on going. When I crested a small hill, there he was, facing away kicking the water. I could only move about another 4 yds and moved to get ready for the shot. The bull then laid down in the water and was looking my way. He couldn't see me (thanks to my brown long john top) but I was afraid the wind was going to get me. It was already late in the AM and the winds were getting sloppy. I then moved to position my feet and crack! I stepped on a stick. That got his attention. I couldn't believe I got all that way without making a sound and right there 25ish yds away, I step on a stick. Then, the saving grace, a small pine squirrel jumped down not feet from me and ran off. He then rolled around a bit more and I got my feet set. Not a few seconds later, he got up and started to move off when I drew back and picked a spot. I could see his shoulder blade was back and clearly visible and when it went forward, I let the arrow go. I thought I had hit him low, and I got another arrow out. The bull moved off and his near side leg to me was either broke or immobile. He then ran right into a wall of dirt and fell. He got back up and was having a hard time standing. I knew he was heart shot or something else was hit hard. I could still see him, so I decided to step to the side a few yds and sent another at him from about 35 yds. The arrow hit just behind his shoulder area and buried to the fletch. The bull fell and I knew it would be over quick but decided to walk away and let the arrow do its work. I don’t know how far the first arrow penetrated, because he snapped it off. I’d say by looking at the broken arrow, maybe 16 inches. However, the second arrow went to the fletching. I didn’t get back to camp that night until dark and had to go back for another very heavy load in the AM. I was all alone and hunting public land here in Colorado. I’ve never really let terrain dictate where I kill animals, but I might need to reconsider.
Here is a picture of the last load I brought out which consisted of one boned out hind quarter, the two boned out front quarters and the whole head for CWD testing our state offers. Elk hunting is very demanding and when I sit back and think about how far back I killed that bull and the huge hill I had to climb before I could even begin the 1.5 hour walk down hill to my tent, you have to wonder!
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/chadlewis/IMAG0034.jpg)
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Great Congratulations and super story!
GBTG
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Awesome job and a good story what more can you ask for.
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Good job, Chad. I'm just thankfull the guys I hunt with consider themselves horse lovers. It's really nice to have a dozen nags in camp when an elk is down, and your pretty much assured of seeing a free rodeo on every pack trip. Mabe you should consider a couple goats or llamas?
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Chad: Good job my man! Thanks for sharing your story and pictures with us.
Yes sir, getting elk back to the rig, horses, or camp is just about always very hard work.
Ya have to kill elk where they ARE, and that can be hell sometimes.
I've done alone at times and know how hard you worked to get him out. Congratulations!
Olebow
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Outstanding! Were heading up to our unit for some scouting tonight, our bull elk hunt doesnt start until next friday. I hope that I have action such as you did. This will be my first bull elk hunt. I'll be carrying magnus 125 stingers on my grizzly sticks and a Fedora recurve. Congrats and great story.
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Congrats Chad, you earned that one! Nice shooting and great story.
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Great story Chad...love those elk storys :thumbsup:
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Nice bull Chad, Congrats :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
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Nice, wish I could hunt elk every year with my bow, congrats on a great hunt.
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Congrats on a very nice elk. I have got to get out west and hunt them someday.
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Chad,
You da man, so does that mean you'll now be my packer for the canyon ;)
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Great hunt Chad, love it when a plan comes together :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Way to go nice bull!! The buck I shot last year the arrow hit about the same spot actually just infront of the bone and the blood trail was amazing. Of course an inch one way or the other can ruin your day.
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Nice work Chad. You really earned that one. On Tuesday I was stalking a herd at a cluster of Wallows. 4 bulls were paired off sparing. I only got to about 60 yards though when the wind did me in. I too hunt mostly alone for elk and I have definitely started taking location into consideration. Hate to do it cause it takes some of the fun out of the actual hunt but for the first time this year I have to play father baby sitter on some days and cant risk spoiling the meat. Congrats again man.
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Way to go and congrats. Excellent story.
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Thanks guys for the good words.
It's been a great year. On a side note, I saw two Mountain Lions this year and three bears. One of the lions was at six yds. I cow called him in. Here is a crappy photo of him as he slowly crept away.
AKDan,
No, It was a hole, but not "THE" hole. After that pack out, I don't think I'll ever shoot one in the hole. At least not without 10 guys in camp. That's it, a "Trad Gang" elk hunt in the "HOLE"! I'm affraid after one kill down there, I get hit with a lawsuit covering medical bills, you know, heart attacks, strokes, etc etc but it is a fun place to hunt but just leave your bow up top.
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/chadlewis/IMAG00011111.jpg)
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Jeez man I aint THAT out of shape :D .
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Dan,
I'll go down, but we're bringing a table, bags, and the vacuum sealer cuz we ain't bringing anthing out but meat! You want the horns, you carry them!