Trad Gang

I just got my new Turkey Creek Longbow and was wonder which nock is better for bowhunting?

Thanks
Bob M

I've always used the brass nock.I nock under it,that way you don't have to look to put an arrow on the string.   :campfire:

A floss or sting nock will do the same thing. But it won't cut your glove and is about 1' per second faster if you're trying to squeeze every little bit out of your bow.

I shoot 3 under and use both a brass on top and a ff string matrial tie on below

I'm currently using B50 string material tied on for my nocking point above the arrow.  At least for me, the brass nocks cut my tab. I have also used dental floss and FF serving material...the B50 is just handy and cheap.

I use a nock for setup. it's just easier for me to be able to open it and close a couple times. For some reason I cannot make my tie on nocks to move. Once they are on they are on.

Once I get a bow tuned in I switch to a floss.

I use serving string. Like Verm said, saves on glove wear.

Yeah, serving string or artificial sinew.

I usually hunt with bare fingers...no brass nocks for me!

Killdeer

Ditto on the serving string or artificial sinew, after watching 'Hitting like Howard Hill' I started nocking above.

I used and liked brass knocks except for the fact that the brass knock would occassionaly scratch my riser when transporting the bow unstrung.  Now its fast flight.

I tune by cutting white medical tape to about 3/16" wide and wrap aroound. Then typically move up or down in 3/16" increments until tuned to my likin'. Then I floss it.

I started out with brass but now all I use is dental floss.

I used to use brass nocks, tried dental floss and will never go back, It is superior in that it is very adaptable and doesn't effect arrow speed at all.

I use serving material or braided fishing line. I usually just mark the string when tuning, then serve on a nock above and below.

David

The brassies would peel the hair off of a new tab in a days' shooting. I switched to a Martin shooting glove, and the brassies had my top finger scratched up in three shots---thats when I switched to serving string.

serving string is the way to go. IMO

30# braided dacron fishing line.  Tie five knots alternating front to back.  Very secure, but with the ability to screw up or down the serving if needed.

I serve mine with fastflight, you can screw the knot up and down to tune and when tuned 1 drop of superglue and its permanently in place. I used to use one below and one above now just one above. its too easy when you are on an animal to accidently nock the arrow below the lower knot. I'll give you one guess as to what happens. We learn these things by bad experiences.

I use Berkley fireline and a drop of superglue.

I prefer brass, but use/have used both.  I like brass because of the adjustability, I've never damaged a glove with one (even very thin ones, always shot split finger), and I can't tell the difference in 1-2 fps.  I'm parinoid about a string/floss nock breaking at the worst time.

I'm curious to know what's causing the glove damage--bad nock sets?  Pliers not squeezing it on properly?  My nocking pliers were expensive (as nocking pliers go), but they do the job right.

Chad

Thanks Guys ..I'm going to give dental floss and serving a try.

Best
Bob

I've used both, but like the brass ones. If you get the correct size for the string, they fit nicely, are very square and even and don't slide or wear. I have no trouble cutting gloves.

Brass. Matches my cajones.

Brass

brass.just easier to make changes if you need to in my opion.no glove or tab cut here.make sure to get right size nock per string count.if you ever plan on bowfishing at with your longbow or recurve,do yourself a favor and put on a brass one,atleast for your bowfishing set up.

Brass for over 20yrs. Probably couldn't switch even if I wanted to.

My buddies use floss or serving and they look like a tapered blob with no distinct "stop" for the arrow nock. I use brass for exact, repeatable, nocking point without looking.

Why would a floss, or string, nock result in a higher speed?

No nock at all; just eyeballing it works for me.

Every bit of weight you add to a string(including number of bundles/strands) effects speed.

I use both brass and tie ons.


I have had some brass nocks get a little rough from removing and installing. All you got to do is hit it with some sand paper and it's good to go.

Brass for convenience since I'm just getting back into archery and I have a few extras around. Interested in trying floss to see if it makes a difference.

Good to see 3 Green Mountain men posting in a row!

I vastly prefer a tied on nock point.  I use Dacron bowstring fiber and make 6-8 simple overhand knots, then whip the remaining two ends (it's easier to just end with another knot), then coat the nock point with thin CYA glue) - super light, small, almost unnoticeable under yer tab or glove, lasts the life of the string.

Here's a tied on nock point I did using black/white BCY #64 braid serving thread ...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/tie-on-nock-point.jpg)

Use waxed dental floss  and then add wax over the top and very carefully put a match to it to melt the wax into the floss.  Been using this since the 60's.. Bought a 6 drawer box full of archery stuff and there must be 200 metal nocking points in there.  Been giving them away at the local club.

I use a B50 string material tied on for my nocking point above the arrow. And I learned it here:
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000014

Does the floss have to be mint flavored?
  :knothead:    :knothead:

I use a tie on nock with heavy test dacron fishing line.  It allows me to turn it up and down the string for tuning.  When I get it where it needs to be a dab of superglue keeps it there.

QuoteOriginally posted by RamiusEng:
Does the floss have to be mint flavored?
   :knothead:      :knothead:  

Well yeah!  If you anchor just right, you get accurate arrow flight and minty fresh breath.  How can ya lose?

  :bigsmyl:

I was having the same problems with my gloves getting shot up til I switched to B50 with about 5 alternating knots.  I leave the ends long and light them.  The blob of melted string seals it without making it permanent like CYA glue.

tie ons are awesome. nice and easy to do and dont come lose.

Waxed dental floss. I didn't know you could use it on your teeth/tooth too?

I like tie on and I just use #4 nylon serving.Have been tying on my nocks for many years it just looks more traditional to me.Brass nocks can scratch up a bow also,it's just my preference to tie them on.I tie one above and one below.

I just finished one for my 4 year old Grandson using Berkley Cane Pole Fishing Line dug up outa the ole tackle box. Works great and is adjustable. 10 yards hard braid nylon line. Thanks for the tip.

I like the unwaxed floss. Easier on my bare fingers. I keep a roll in my daypack to make a fix in the feild or to clean that pesky piece of skwerl meat from my teeth. Also tie a piece onto yer bow to make a nice wind detector.

The problem I have with dental floss is that for the most part it's too thin, requires too many knots/wraps to thicken up for a good nock point, and optionally you can't make the resulting nock point rotate to thread itself up or down the center serving for initial nock point adjustments.

Where are you all finding "un-waxed" floss? I was up and down the isles at walmart trying to find it with no luck. Plenty of waxed though...

How I typically make a tie on nock point.

Brace the bow, use a bow square to set up where the nock point goes (if ya don't know exactly where to tie the nock point, pick a starting location and do some tests with either a brass nock point or tie on a buncha knots using heavy thread - adjust to your liking as you strive for good arrow flight with no up/down flight porpoising) ...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/np2.jpg)

Make an overhand knot on top of the string, and then below, and so on for a good 6 or so knots ...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/np3.jpg)

Lay down a whipping loop between the tag ends of yer nock point knot ...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/np5.jpg)

Lay down one end of the nock point tag end alongside the whipping loop, and begin to wrap the other tag end over the whipping loop and the laid down tag end ...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/np6.jpg)

Do about four wraps ...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/np7.jpg)

Insert the wrapped tag end into the whipping loop ...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/np9.jpg)

Pull on the whipping loop and pull the tag end through the nock point knots ...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/np10.jpg)

Pull both nock point tag ends tight ...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/np11.jpg)

Cut off the tag ends with a razor knife or blade ...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/np12.jpg)

Coat the nock point with CYA (super glue, Krazy Glue, etc) ...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/np13.jpg)

There ya go - a super light nock point that's good for the life of yer bowstring ...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/np14.jpg)

I use synthetic sinew for my sting servings. You can split the string into several smaller strands in works really well. Already waxed and tougher than all get out. I usually split the stuff into at least four parts when sewing things unless making quivers and such, then I use all the strands.

Great How to pics Rob DiStefano!

Thanks
Bob

As difficult a time as it is to find a good glove ( finally had a custom glove made) I will never go back to brass nocking pt.  I use only floss.

I use floss- cause it looks cooler!  I don't care about time spent serving it.  never had an issue in over 20 years.

Great post Rob.   :thumbsup:

Nicely shown Rob!

Rob... your instructions need to be saved somewhere if they aren't already!!!!
 :readit:

Now that was off the chain again , Tradgang rules...ya gotta love it!   :thumbsup:

Red Beastmaster,...."no distinct"stop" for the arrow nock" ?....well your friends must be doing a pretty poor job.

Rob D,
I have used floss for many years  and don't use any knots or glue to keep it on.  Wished I could do a How To on this thing but I am lucky enough just to turn it on.  I have shown many people how to put a nocking point on with no knots and all are surprise on how easy it is.

Rob your my hero!

I like serving above and below since I shoot split finger.

I use plain old sewing thread. Just tie a knot over and under till it builds up and then coat with superglue gel. Makes a great lightweight adjustable nocking point. I use one above and below.

serving string here myself...you can twist it up and down the dtring for tuning very easily

I use a brass nock to tune a bow or install a new string. After it's tuned, I remove the brass and tie on a nylon serving thread nocking point above the arrow and one below the arrow.
Jerry

I've been using brass nock sets ever since I started shooting a bow. I suppose it's just one of those things that's worked fine for me, so I never saw any reason to change.

Didn't quite understand Rob's instructions as the photos don't show up on my computer.
However when I use floss, I just tie it on the same as reserving the string.  Rap over the tab end 4-5 wraps, built up the nock pt. with floss then back wrap about 4-5 wraps.  I put a coat of fletch tite on the string.  Usually lasts about a year.  By then I usually have to reserve the string anyway.