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Title: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: longbowman on January 04, 2008, 09:47:00 AM
I was just wondering how many of us use "vintage" bows for our hunting.  To me "vintage" means 25 yrs. or older.  I was looking at my inventory of bows last night and noticed that my newest bow was built in 2000.  The bows I hunt with are 20 and 26 yrs. old.  My Custome Bear T.D. was built in '82 and my Howatt Hunter was built in '88.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: Bjorn on January 04, 2008, 09:55:00 AM
The past year has been exclusively my 2 ACSs-only fell off the wagon once or twice. In the past I used '50s Kodiaks and Kodiak Specials which I still love.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: d. ward on January 04, 2008, 10:02:00 AM
My bows range from 1954 - 1971.Then I have a 1973 B mag and limbs....thats about the newest for me.bd
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Post by: trapperDave on January 04, 2008, 10:13:00 AM
mine are all late 60's early 70's bows
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Post by: bkupris on January 04, 2008, 10:26:00 AM
I hunted with a 58" 1974 Herters takedown the past two years.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: woodchucker on January 04, 2008, 10:36:00 AM
This past fall I hunted with my 40 year old 1967 Bear Grizzly

Killed a spikehorn buck with it 11/11/07   :archer:
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: Deadbolt on January 04, 2008, 10:39:00 AM
my bear tigercat was aged at 1959 i think the gent told me took my nine pointer with it...currently shooting my 07 ancient spirit though.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: Jon Stewart on January 04, 2008, 10:40:00 AM
Still using a 1968 Kodiak  Hunter dad gave me when I got home from the Marines in 69.
I would say NEVER use or string old bows with metal limbs or metal in the limbs.  Bow experts will certainly know better than me but I think the metal would get too brittle and break.

Jon Stewart
Semper Fi
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Post by: Shaun on January 04, 2008, 10:46:00 AM
Hunted all this season with a '55 Kodiak - well maybe a time or two with a recent self bow.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: bbassi on January 04, 2008, 10:50:00 AM
I'm not sure when my 'tip was made, but it was made by Paul which makes it vintage to me (among other things). I have picked up 2 '68 Bears in recent months and plan to hunt with one or both this fall. I think it would be neat to take a deer or bear with a bow made the same year I was born.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: Billy on January 04, 2008, 11:08:00 AM
Only have a 40+ year old Red Wing Hunter 50# @ 28, 58". Made between 65-68.
Got my first squirrel in December.
It still has the sticker from the original shop in Pekin,Il on it.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: Jeremy on January 04, 2008, 11:28:00 AM
I'll be hunting with a '59 Grizz this season... or maybe a '59 KSpecial... or is it going to be a '57 Kodiak... hmmm... get the idea?  :D
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: JL on January 04, 2008, 12:06:00 PM
Sure! 65 Kodiak here. One very nice shooting bow! I also have more modern curves I use but hitting the woods with a bow that is about my age has some good mojo factor to it.


JL
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: rybohunter on January 04, 2008, 12:12:00 PM
I'm kinda glad to see this. I still shoot and old Necedah from the early 60's? I think. I mostly used my new longbow to hunt with this year, but that old recurve is fun to take sometimes. It really spits em out.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: Marvin M. on January 04, 2008, 01:34:00 PM
I've got a Pearson Gamester that I took my first trad deer with three years ago.  Hard shooting short recurve that I pull out occaisionally and fling a few with.  Nice bow but I've got my bowfishing setup on it now and use a longbow for deer.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: Migra Bill on January 04, 2008, 01:54:00 PM
My hunting tradbows are all from the 60's and 70's. I also have a 2007 ******* that I am not allowed to talk about - 320 feet per second.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: myshootinstinks on February 06, 2008, 04:28:00 AM
Question...How about the '59 or'60 Kodiak Special, the one with clear glass over zebra? We have access to one but I hear it's not a good idea to even string it! Is there a delamination problem with this particular model, anyone know?
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: Danny Rowan on February 06, 2008, 04:58:00 AM
1960 GRIZZ, 65# ,will be hunted next year. Made to be shot.Quietest recurve I own.

Danny
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: Killdeer on February 06, 2008, 05:34:00 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/Hunting%20and%20Camp/2007%20November%20Hunt/Img_4920RE610.jpg)

1967 K-Mag.

Killdeer  :campfire:
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Post by: 4runr on February 06, 2008, 06:16:00 AM
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/4runr/SA400211.jpg)

1962 K-Mag. With alot of help from Bowdoc, Droptine59, Al's Decals, Raineman and others, I just refinished this old gurl!
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: d. ward on February 06, 2008, 06:57:00 AM
Hey Killie,I'am pretty certin the bow in your pic is actuly a 1964 or 1965 K mag....Bubinga(African Rosewood) and Brazilian Rosewood.....bowdoc
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Post by: Earl E. Nov...mber on February 06, 2008, 07:12:00 AM
My newest bow is a mid 70's SK, Oldest I hunt with is a '59 Kodiak,, Go to bow is a Bear "A" Mag TD, "Early 70's" I did cheat and pick up a new set of limbs for it, but really don't like them and haven't taken them afield yet.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: myshootinstinks on February 06, 2008, 08:55:00 AM
Some of my Bears & Howatts
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/myshootinstinks/000_1285.jpg)
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: sticshooter on February 06, 2008, 09:03:00 AM
59 GRIZ will be with me next season. Bought it as a 62 and found here that it's a 59   :bigsmyl:  Great shooting bow.<><
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: George D. Stout on February 06, 2008, 10:49:00 AM
I hunted last year with a late 1950's Tri-State Jaguar.  Shoots great and keeps on tickin'.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/oldearcher46/01010001aa.jpg)
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: Yolla Bolly on February 06, 2008, 11:43:00 AM
Oh yeah---please heed Jon's warning re: metal limbed old bows.  My friend gave me two old Bears---1950's era which looked like longbows with radically reflexed tips.  The heavier of the two contained a metal lamination.  Out of a sense of nostalgia, I wanted to take a buck with it before retiring it, and it shot sweetly with Easton 1816's and old style Razorheads.  It delaminated in a spectacular, bloody and painful manner.  Steve Touray told me that that bow model nearly bankrupted Bear Archery: something about the adhesives available then were not able to bond well with metal.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: Willow on February 06, 2008, 05:13:00 PM
Haven't hunted yet but I use a 70's (not sure which year) Grizzly. Works great. Just wish I could use fast flight string.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: J.Williams on February 06, 2008, 05:44:00 PM
Bowfish carp and bunny hunt with a 1970 50#@28" 56" Bear grizzly.Might try and take a deer with it this Fall.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: myshootinstinks on February 06, 2008, 07:10:00 PM
One more time with my question...How about the '59 or'60 Kodiak Special, the one with clear glass over zebra? Is there a delamination problem with this particular model, anyone know?
   The bow in question hasn't been strung years...probably 30 years. It's a looker and I'm leary.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: myshootinstinks on February 06, 2008, 09:05:00 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/myshootinstinks/000_1288.jpg)
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: myshootinstinks on February 06, 2008, 09:06:00 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/myshootinstinks/000_1287.jpg)
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: Killdeer on February 06, 2008, 10:08:00 PM
Bowdoc, y'ol curmudgeon...can't you let a gal lie about her age?

Looking at the serial again, yup, she's a '65. You have a good eye for age spots.

Killdeer  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: Gordon martiniuk on February 06, 2008, 10:12:00 PM
I also have a vintage 1968 k mag great shape would hunt any day with it still farly fast and also accurate   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: Grant Young on February 07, 2008, 09:51:00 AM
All of my hunting bows are thirty years old or older with the exception of a Saxon built for mr last year. '69 Bear B riser TD-wood, '71 wooden B riser, '72 A mag. '70 Super K, '68 Super K. The '69 is my primary bow. I can't find anything else that shoots as well.For me, that is.
                                     Grant
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: Frank V on February 07, 2008, 10:49:00 PM
I have a 1969 Bear Super Mag. refinished by Bowdoc that I use in thick brush & tight places. Frank
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: d. ward on February 08, 2008, 08:17:00 AM
Stinkie shooter,I read the rest of your post about the 1960 deluxe and special D's.Actuly those bows did not break or delaminate any more then any other bow did or does.One reason Bear stopped production of that model,is because you could see the stress cracks in the clear fiberglass real easy....Bear Archery would paint the limbs on some bows the same color as the fiberglass before putting the silk screens and final clear finish on(to hide stress cracks)...The bows were cracked right out of the forms,beleave it or not,those are really more of an expansition crack then stressing....But Bear could not hide the stress or expansition cracks in the clear fiberglass so they dropped the KD's and KSD's,after one year....but thats not to say any old or new bow could break,it just happens sometimes...I will say this...I've shot about 20-25 different KSD's at least up to 55#'s and have never had one break..well not yet! Hey Killie,I think they just get better and more beautiful with age...thats a good looken mag ya'got there....bowdoc
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: myshootinstinks on February 08, 2008, 08:46:00 PM
Thanks Doc! That sounds logical. I doubt that we'll shoot this one very often but it will be nice to string up and shoot occasionally. I was told that even stringing it is a risk, funny how these rumors start and perpetuate. When, (what year, approximately), did Bear get the glass quality refined so that there were no stress or expansion cracks? I've never seen it on modern bows.  Thanks, Doug
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Post by: redfish on February 08, 2008, 10:46:00 PM
Went hunting last week with a 40 year old Shakespeare Kaibab.
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Post by: alaskabowhunter on February 08, 2008, 11:21:00 PM
1959 Kodiak, 60" 54#, bowdoc replaced the limb tip overlays and gave it a new finish. sweet shooter...
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/biggriz61/bowsinalaska001-1.jpg)
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Post by: fredbear92 on February 09, 2008, 12:03:00 AM
I hunt with a 1969 Bear Grizzly. Shoots as good as any new bow
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Post by: d. ward on February 09, 2008, 05:55:00 AM
Doug I would say Bear Archery probley never really 100% got rid of the cracks...And meaning no disrespect to any of the Bear dealers out there.........or Bear lovers.But last week I saw 2 set of newer Bear take down limbs?the ones they sell today???Both sets of limbs had these small H looking cracks in them...They are about 2 years old...ABH thats a good looking 59 there!!! The daughter had the baby yesterday,a slammen 10 pound baby bow restorer..I mean boy..I will track ya down later this AM ...........bowdoc
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Post by: 4runr on February 09, 2008, 06:02:00 AM
Congrats, BD, on your new shop apprentice!!
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: alaskabowhunter on February 09, 2008, 01:12:00 PM
Hey Doc,

Wow! What a bruiser!!. I bet he has a bow in his hands before he's walking... Congratulations I hope everybody is doing good. I'm sure you are the proud grandpa today, have a cigar for me!
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: alaskabowhunter on February 09, 2008, 01:59:00 PM
here is one of my favs that you worked your magic on...62" 44# Kodiak Special Deluxe.... yea I'm shooting it..
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/biggriz61/62KodSpecDlx011.jpg)
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Post by: Chris Wilson on February 09, 2008, 03:10:00 PM
Yep, a mid 1970's Hoyt Pro-medalist takedown hunter. 60", 48#@28"
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Post by: bkupris on February 09, 2008, 03:43:00 PM
This is the one I should be hunting with but it's in perfect condition and I figure I would be lucky to get my hands on another one like it.

Herters Sambar 1964  64"  46 lbs

 http://brian.ckupris.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=523&g2_serialNumber=1
http://brian.ckupris.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=527&g2_serialNumber=1
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: myshootinstinks on February 09, 2008, 06:04:00 PM
Who built Herter's bows? Did they actually build them at their own shop or did another outfit build them?  Brian, that's a nice looking bow.
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: bkupris on February 10, 2008, 04:03:00 AM
I think they built them themselves, not sure actually?
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Post by: d. ward on February 10, 2008, 08:38:00 AM
Hi Brian nice looking bow you have there...I beleave your correct,most all of Herter's bows were built in one of several massive wood working opperations...I beleave they were build same deal as Herters walnut gun stocks...All cut by in house wood-workers,employed by Herters....In the serial number of your bow,there should be two numbers together....if it's a 1964?? the numbers 64 would be in the serial number I think about the middle of the serial number...I would also like to add some of the finest rosewood ever imported was used in Herter's bows..There are some fine looking fine shooting bows........bowdoc
Title: Re: Using Vintage Bows
Post by: bkupris on February 10, 2008, 09:20:00 AM
Thanks bowdoc

Yeah I figured out how to read their serial numbers awhile ago thanks to Archery Archives. Serial number on this one is S.661064013. I see I made a mistake on my original post, it's a 66 incher.

  (http://brian.ckupris.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=539&g2_serialNumber=1)  

Cheers for the info   :)  

Brian