Hey guys
I have a Tomahawk longbow and it was my first.Now I'm hooked and want another longbow.
I need your help.Which one to get next.I want a sweet shooter in 50-55 lb range with no hand shock.Please give me your thoughts on longbows you've shot.
Thanks
Bob
turkeycreeklongbows.com
I love Centaurs. Jim Neeves is a great guy to deal with. Griffins and Shrews are great as well. Those Turkey Creeks look good as do the RERs.... you wil probably be able to narrow your choices better if you look for length and the type of grip you shoot best rather than the draw weight. 50-55# is just about what "everybody" is looking for and I don't believe their is a bowyer who won't make you something in that range. I have shot all the above and they all shoot nice, have no handshock if tuned properly. My advice would be to go shoot as many as you can, get together with other trad shooters there in NY, contact the bowyers and see if they have a shoot it before you buy it program. Shoot a lot of different bows before you buy your next bow...
Good luck,
Mike
Shoot as many as you can. personally the Black Widow PL and Pronghorn TD are at the top.
Mike
I spent some time shooting my brother-in-law's new Crow Creek Blackfeather over the holidays while he was in town, and it is the sweetest shooting longbow I have ever handled. A Crow Creek will be my next custom longbow for sure.
Too many bows, not enough time...or money. Would have to second the Widow PL, but then I haven't shot the others mentioned.
There are many good longbows out there. You have a dilema. Robertson, Great Northern, Morrison, Centaur, Wolverine to name a few. Personally, I am currently shooting Morrison long bows for my heavy "on the ground" bows and a Centaur for my lighter tree stand bow. Both are fabulous shooting bows with ZERO hand shock.
Bob Morrison and Jim Neeves fall into that rare catagory of truly NICE people. Dealing with them is a real pleasure.
Having said all that, I would still check with Dick Robertson and the boys at Great Northern, since they make great bows and happen to be nice guys, too.
Cheerio from New Zealand!
Too Short
Longbow and Hand shock in the same sentence I don't get it....
It is intirely possible to shoot longbows with NO HAND SHOCK! Reflex/deflex bows lend themselves to this very well. The old, straight longbows, such as the ones Howard Hill shot, can kick like a mule.
I have many longbows, although much shorter than what longbows used to be, that are free of hand shock and are wonderful to shoot.
Too Short
Thanks Guys... any more opinions?
About a year ago, I had Great Northern make me a Critter Gitter because I had previously bought a used one and found it to be an incredible shooter. That's the only reason I had them make me a new one and that's all I was expecting.
Well, when it came, I was overwhelmed by the quality of workmanship and the sheer beauty of it. AND, it's still the shooter I was expecting!
Griffin longbows.
http://www.montanabows.com/index.html
You can't go wrong with a whip.
Well, I was a recurve guy until I shot a Robertson. Not the fastest in the world but I'd rather hit slower than miss faster. It shoots exactly where I point it and has no hand shock that I can detect,which was always an issue regarding longbows for me. Keep in mind I have a stable of Schafer recurves and Robertson recurves and I shoot the Robertson longbow better than those.
Like Mr Dwarf said, try as many as you can, everyone has different tastes and styles and there are many great longbow bowyers out there.
DonD
Another vote for a Toelke Whip.
Turkey Creek
got to endorse the Crow Creek bows by Elmer Patton. Proud of his bows as an old Arkansas boy, but they shoot great anyway.
Guys ..How bout everyone picking the same bow so my choice would be easier...HeHe
Thanks for the replies I really appreciate it.
Bob
Give Wes Wallace a look at. Extremely nice guy and builds a great bow.
If youuu spend time with a Pronghorn, you won't be sorry.
Prarrie Dog
I really like the Toelke Whip or the Marriah Chinnok...Mike
Griffin Longbows and Shrews. Thunderhorn Coup Stick is also a great shooter.
Another vote for the Griffins and Shrews. Getting ready to take the plunge on a new Silvertip 3-piece myself. I'll let you know how it shoots in 10 or 11 months... :pray: :pray:
This post is going to go on forever, You seriously need to shoot a ton of them You like some and some you wont, I happen to LOVE 3 pc pronghorns but cant stand 1 pc. pronghorns. I have 2 shrews They are both Great, The story goes on < you need to get into a club or go to a trad shoot and ask people to shoot their bows.
You can make your own! I've never shot one, but the Pronghorn TD is surely a sweet looking takedown longbow.
Git a Widder :D :D :D .
david
Fox archery r/d or Wes Wallace, both are great shooters and lookers. Both guys great to deal with and good service.
Dave Dwyer's "Original" longbow model, and Elmer Patton's Crow Creek "Blackfeather" model comes to mind immediately! Both are great bows, dead quiet, and no hand shock.
But, I would suggest you always "try before you buy".
Best of luck on your search. I just finished mine.
David
Now you REALLY have a dilema! Ask each of the bowyers mentioned to send you a bow to try...heh, heh, heh!
Too Short
check out the Striker bows, i have 2 of the the stinger model and love them.
Right now a McCullogh Griffin is my personal favorite. Also have a Morrison Cougar that I love, and a RER 3pc takedown on order. Just finished a test drive on one of Dan Toelkes Whips that is as sweet drawing and fast shooting as they come.
Those are just my preferences at the moment though. It all comes down to your own personal prefence, and the more bows you can shoot the better choice you will make. Some bowyers do offer test drives (like the Whip I just had), so all it costs you is shipping to give them a try. That is a good investment in what hopefully will become a long term relationship with your new bow.
I would also add a vote for the Toelke Whip. Picked up a new one about three weeks ago. It is the smoothest and quietest longbow I've had. And Dan is a great guy to deal with.
Lots of good bows out there... I have shot a couple, but must say I love my whip!!! I doubt you'd be disappointted with it or in dealing with Dan.
I would recommend a Howard Hill longbow from Howard Hill Archery (www.howardhillarchery.com).
They make the bow Howard shot. Sweet and smooth are the two words I would use to describe their bows.
You guys are killing me....Thanks to everyone who has replied so far.Please send me 1 of every longbow recommended...I'll pay shipping and if I don't like it you'll get it back....HeHe
I'm going to stick my neck out and disagree STRONGLY with Max20702. I had 7 or 8 Howard Hill longbows and they are fence posts compared with the reflex/deflex bows. They are hand shocky and slow as molasses, too. It's old technology! Sorry to use that word in this forum, but that is the best choice of words to describe this.
I sold ALL of my Howard Hill longbows and don't regret it a bit. They are clubs compared to my Wolverines, my Robertsons, my Morrisons, and my Great Northerns.
Too Short
How about a nice longbow by James Berry? He has six models to choose from. I had three of his longbows before I went to compounds... I am ordering one soon since I regained my senses and went traditional again.
BTW JD Berry bows are sweet shooters!
Well, You will be hard pressed to find one that shoots better than your T-Hawk. I have owened, and shot more longbows than, I'd like to admit, and my T-Hawk is my all time favorite. Next on my list is the Kota Badlands www.kotabows.com (http://www.kotabows.com) You would not be dissapointed with one, and Tim is a great person to deal with.
SD
Depends on why you want a longbow, performance then a McCullough, Fox, Morrison,Border, 21st Century. I have a Tsunami awesome bow. With carbon or alums. Retro-traditional longbow,then a Hill, Schulz, etc. Hey they aren't hi-tech but they bring back many memories.
Look at the Sponsor's Classifieds too.
Another vote for a Robertson
Gee Paul ouch,
QuoteOriginally posted by KodiakBob:
Gee Paul ouch,
Well,I can say this, Paul knows a lot about bows,and just about anything traditional. He's hunted everywhere,and has probably owned more bows than ten of us put together.
He also will answer a question for you,and no B.S. added.
I value his input highly, and I'd ride the river with him any day.
Did you all know that he shot an elk with a selfbow and an obsidian head? The man is a bowhunter full time. :campfire:
Voting for the Toelke Whip
Dirty Bill: Thanks for the kind words. This is my fiftieth year of bowhunting, so I have "been around the Horn" I guess. I hunted with Paul Schafer, the Wensel Boys, Charlie Kroll, and many others. I LEARNED from all of them.
I never pull my punches. In my view, if someone is going to comment here, first that person should speak from knowledge learned in the shop or the field. Second, that person owes it to us all...and himself...not to beat around the bush, but to tell it like it is.
We have beginning bowhunters here who ask questions and expect a straight, honest answer. They don't want another new comer with no experience filling thier heads full of cotton candy. As Paul Schafer once told me, "we owe it to the young bowhunters to teach them as much as we can about bowhunting and hunting ethics".
Too many well known bowhunters, WHO ARE ALSO CONNECTED TO THE ARCHERY BUSINESS WORLD, give us wishy-washy answers. I am beholden to no one and if I have an answer to a question, it will be learned from PERSONAL experience and passed on without any sugar added. Stepping on someone's toes doesn't bother me at all if those toes need to be stepped on.
I expect the same honesty in return when I ask questions here.
Happy New Year to all...
Too Short
Thats it..I decided to go with a Turkey Creek longbow 53 lb 62" with carbon in the limbs and laminated riser.I hear they are real shooters.I want to thank everyone for their help.
Best
Bob
Try Kohannabows.com and Thunderstick Archery.
You might try a Northwind long bow , I love mine and Jerry is a great guy to work with . Steve
Well I have to say I share Mr Dwarf's opinion on HH longbows. Shooting one swore me off longbows for about 5 years. My buddy, Tom Allen put one of his homemade longbows in my hands later and showed me that not all longbows rattle your teeth.
BUT we all have different tastes and shooting styles so shoot what like best. As for me, bury me with my Juniper Robertson longbow, Randall knife and a good arrow.
DonD