Post by: Linc on January 15, 2006, 01:44:00 PM
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan09644.jpg)
Heat bending to take out a 45deg.twist on the tip.
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan08641.jpg)
This stave has issues. plenty of knots,pins and windchecks.Even a little ring separation. :eek:
Post by: Huntrdfk on January 15, 2006, 01:48:00 PM
David
Post by: Linc on January 15, 2006, 01:54:00 PM
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan09645.jpg)
Profile close to floor tiller.
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan15649.jpg)
Adding reflex to handle to match opposite side.
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan15650.jpg)
Adding deflex to equal opposite limb.
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan15652.jpg)
Post by: Linc on January 15, 2006, 02:05:00 PM
This really isn't a build-a-long cause I don't know how much time I'll have to work on it.Let alone know what I'm going to do till I do it.
!["[tunglaff]"]("graemlins/tunglaff.gif" "\"\"")
Guess you could say "I'm winging it"
Post by: Linc on January 15, 2006, 04:52:00 PM
I'm currently doing some heat tweeking to get the string to run down the center of the handle.I probably won't get to work on floor tillering till next weekend.
Post by: Dano on January 15, 2006, 05:16:00 PM
Post by: cjones on January 15, 2006, 05:25:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 15, 2006, 05:58:00 PM
I had a few trains of thought with this one.The deflexed outer limbs would reduce stress at brace and ease stringing the bow.The reflex off the handle would possibly aid in storing power in the limbs and give a decent force draw curve.I may be totally off base but you don't learn much by sticking to the tried and true.Besides what do I have to lose?Still learn something,no matter what. :rolleyes:
Post by: adkmountainken on January 15, 2006, 06:02:00 PM
would love to see this bow if you have it finished by Tollgate shoot!
Post by: Linc on January 15, 2006, 06:13:00 PM
Post by: Tim Clark on January 15, 2006, 06:18:00 PM
wow, Linc, I'm glad the "M-Word" has finally been used, and even more so that I'm not the one that used it first! I'm not saying you LIKE to work on this kind of stave, but you sure do have a way of drawing a darn good bow out of them.
I'll be watching this one intently, too.
Post by: Linc on January 15, 2006, 06:26:00 PM
Post by: LeeNY on January 15, 2006, 06:53:00 PM
But with that pile of primo staves under all those twisted bent up ones. I figure you're saving those until they're well seasoned :readit:
Post by: Dano on January 15, 2006, 06:59:00 PM
Post by: Killdeer on January 15, 2006, 07:08:00 PM
killdeer :wavey:
Post by: Linc on January 15, 2006, 07:10:00 PM
Lee,Sorry.I forgot to tell you about the pipe wrench.Ya know I got oldtimers desease!No tellin how many other bowyering tools I furgot to tell you about. :knothead:
Here are a few updated pics.The deflex really doesn't show much but I ended up with 3" of reflex.(Would have been 4" without the deflex).
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan15653.jpg)
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan15654.jpg)
Post by: LeeNY on January 15, 2006, 07:11:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 15, 2006, 07:12:00 PM
Post by: LeeNY on January 15, 2006, 07:14:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 15, 2006, 07:16:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 15, 2006, 07:17:00 PM
Post by: LeeNY on January 15, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 15, 2006, 07:21:00 PM
Post by: Tim Clark on January 15, 2006, 07:22:00 PM
Also my keyboard - yup, left-handed, too.
Only one of my drawknives is either-or.
...I think...
Linc, that string looks like it's laying nicely. 'Course, I use the word loosely, since I'm sure that it's well off the stave!
...but, that may just be an optical illusion, what with my left-handed monitor and all, y'know? :bigsmyl:
Post by: Dano on January 15, 2006, 07:26:00 PM
Lee, I know what you mean :D Linc needs good friends to keep him honest.
Killie, my monkey wrench works both righty and lefty. ;)
Post by: Linc on January 15, 2006, 07:29:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 15, 2006, 07:32:00 PM
Post by: LeeNY on January 15, 2006, 07:52:00 PM
Post by: Tim Clark on January 15, 2006, 07:55:00 PM
well, at least the monkey wrench will have a tillering tree close by. :bigsmyl:
Post by: Linc on January 16, 2006, 06:08:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 16, 2006, 06:56:00 PM
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan16656.jpg)
Post by: Hackbow on January 16, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
Post by: Dano on January 16, 2006, 07:25:00 PM
Post by: Buffler Razz on January 16, 2006, 07:27:00 PM
Post by: Hackbow on January 16, 2006, 07:34:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 17, 2006, 04:47:00 AM
Buffler,You should have seen my bench before I had to make room for working on this bugger.
I took off the clamps this morning.I will recurve to other tip later on today.They will be stiff non-working almost static tips.Just enough to help reduce string angle.Once this is accomplished then I will get it to floor tiller and put it on the tree for the long string.
Post by: Linc on January 17, 2006, 04:57:00 AM
Post by: Killdeer on January 17, 2006, 05:57:00 AM
Oh! Hi! Mornin' Linc! Gotta go to work now...
Killdeer :wavey:
Post by: ber643 on January 17, 2006, 06:09:00 AM
Post by: Hackbow on January 17, 2006, 07:14:00 AM
Post by: Dryrot on January 17, 2006, 09:42:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Hackbow:Is that for when the bow blows up in your hands and you need to clean up the "mess"??? :scared:
I wanna know in what stage of bow-buildin' do you use the kitty litter? (see previous pics)
Post by: Linc on January 17, 2006, 07:40:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 17, 2006, 07:47:00 PM
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 17, 2006, 09:21:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 18, 2006, 04:31:00 AM
Here is a pic of the new profile.
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan18658.jpg)
3 1/4" of reflex total.
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan18660.jpg)
Post by: Linc on January 18, 2006, 04:40:00 AM
The far limb has slightly more reflex so that will be the lower limb if all else goes well.
Post by: Killdeer on January 18, 2006, 06:05:00 AM
I sure hope she makes it. It will be a pretty bend.
My doggy's name was Sheba, too. Came with the name and a collar from the pound.
Killdeer :bigsmyl:
Post by: Linc on January 18, 2006, 05:04:00 PM
You're right Killie,if this one goes it will go big time.I'm thinking about backing it with rawhide.Going to keep the belly pretty flat but it has a good amount of crown in some areas.I'm keeping my fingers crossed.If it survives tillering I expect it to take a few inches of set.
Post by: Linc on January 22, 2006, 11:27:00 AM
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan22661.jpg)
Here I have 8-9" of string movement.
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan22666.jpg)
Post by: Linc on January 22, 2006, 11:31:00 AM
Post by: Shaun on January 22, 2006, 11:52:00 AM
How did I miss this thread earlier? The bunch of C clamps hanging on the pipe wrench gave me a good laugh - looks like something I'd do, but not take a picture of.
Check Timo's thread on take down self bow for some tips on how to protect yourself during test shooting.
Post by: Dano on January 22, 2006, 01:54:00 PM
Post by: DCM on January 22, 2006, 02:02:00 PM
Post by: NorthShoreLB on January 22, 2006, 03:38:00 PM
Manny
Post by: AZStickman on January 22, 2006, 04:02:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 22, 2006, 04:15:00 PM
More to come later. :bigsmyl:
Post by: Linc on January 22, 2006, 04:25:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 23, 2006, 04:29:00 AM
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan23667.jpg)
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan23668.jpg)
Post by: AZStickman on January 23, 2006, 07:29:00 AM
Post by: Scooby on January 23, 2006, 07:55:00 AM
Post by: Linc on January 23, 2006, 05:04:00 PM
Thinned down the limbs some and this is how it is looking now. 3 3/4" brace drawn to 51#@26".When unstrung it still had 1 5/8" of reflex.Will see how it recovers after resting.
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan23673.jpg)
Looks like it needs a little work on the outer 1/3 of each limb.
Post by: Linc on January 23, 2006, 05:06:00 PM
Post by: Luke Vander Vennen on January 23, 2006, 05:14:00 PM
very nice work :thumbsup:
Post by: Linc on January 23, 2006, 05:17:00 PM
Post by: Tim Clark on January 23, 2006, 05:21:00 PM
Linc, I like your style. That, my friend, like all you work, is a joy to look at. To take what may not even catch most folks' eye and draw a bow out of it --- you've got patience, and talent.
And no self-depricating replies! Take an honest compliment for the way it's meant. And take a few bows, too. Well deserved.
Post by: Dano on January 23, 2006, 05:33:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 23, 2006, 06:34:00 PM
Thanks Tim and Dano.Someone once said "It's just a piece of wood".I took that good advice and gladly accept the challenge.I do the best I can with what I have.I've been a jerry rigger my whole life and I guess it plays a part in making selfbows.I don't look for the best wood to make a bow,I look for the best bow I can get from a piece of wood.Like I told Dano last month "the only thing I seem to be good at is making something from nothing".LOL.Maybe someday I may even be able to be a craftsman but in the meantime it's function over finish. :bigsmyl:
Post by: Linc on January 23, 2006, 07:08:00 PM
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan23676.jpg)
Upper limb on the left.
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan23677.jpg)
BTW,The lower limb has all the twist so it really looks screwed up. 4" brace and still holding 50#@26".
Post by: DCM on January 23, 2006, 08:33:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 24, 2006, 04:26:00 AM
I pretty much agree with you.I think I will leave the top limb alone till I get the lower limb coming around.But I think the upper needs a little attention between 3 and 4.That area looks pretty flat to me.
The braced pic is sweet.That is the look I was after.I visioned a little more curve at the tips but I'm happy with the way they are. :bigsmyl:
Post by: NorthShoreLB on January 24, 2006, 04:37:00 AM
Manny
Post by: Linc on January 24, 2006, 04:53:00 AM
I reread this thread and realized I forgot to mention that the wind checks don't seem to be a problem after all.And the ring separation is located in the handle area but may still become a problem later.I may just have to shape the handle area and then wrap with cordage if it looks like it may be getting to much stress.
Post by: Killdeer on January 24, 2006, 05:37:00 AM
Killdeer
Post by: mich-mtnman on January 24, 2006, 08:53:00 AM
why not some leather lace , wrapped up nice and tight over a little barge to keep her in position.
Post by: Linc on January 24, 2006, 07:01:00 PM
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan24681.jpg)
Jamie,Not really sure what I'm going to do yet.I don't think the seperation will be a problem.It doesn't go though and where it is located,it shouldn't get much stress.
Post by: Killdeer on January 24, 2006, 07:43:00 PM
Post by: Dano on January 24, 2006, 08:24:00 PM
!["[dead]"]("graemlins/dead.gif" "\"\"")
Post by: Killdeer on January 24, 2006, 08:26:00 PM
Post by: Sparky on January 24, 2006, 08:36:00 PM
Sparky
Post by: Linc on January 25, 2006, 04:21:00 AM
Post by: Shaun on January 25, 2006, 11:52:00 AM
Anyway, nice looking stick there Linc. The bottom limb looks a little flat in the 3-4 square of your pictures. Then again I may be "following my ignorance".
Post by: Linc on January 25, 2006, 07:06:00 PM
39#@26" 5"brace.
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan25682.jpg)
Turned around.
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan25685.jpg)
6" brace 45#@28".
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan25686.jpg)
Made a big mistake in not waiting till this weekend when I could have taken my time to try and finess the tiller.I did not put back on the tree and mark the areas that I had to work on.I should have known better.Took off wood in an area I shouldn't then had to play catch up.
Post by: NorthShoreLB on January 25, 2006, 07:13:00 PM
Manny
Post by: Linc on January 25, 2006, 07:16:00 PM
BIG SURPRISE. She is s-m-o-o-t-h and shoots pretty good.Minimal hand shock.Seems to be pretty consistantly accurate (at least at 7 yds)LOL.
Missed poundage a little but I have room to tweek out a few more pounds by shortening.Then again I don't know if I want to mess with a good thing.
Post by: Dano on January 25, 2006, 07:20:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 25, 2006, 07:21:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 25, 2006, 07:29:00 PM
Actually,I lost sight of my intentions when I started this project.I wanted the reflex off the handle and I also wanted to get deflexed outer limbs.That's just what I've got.Reflex to store energy.Deflex (or set) to ease in stringing and less strain on the limbs at brace for long periods. :readit: I was looking to get 50-52# but 45# ain't all that bad. :rolleyes:
Post by: Dano on January 25, 2006, 07:40:00 PM
Post by: Linc on January 25, 2006, 07:52:00 PM
Post by: Huntrdfk on January 25, 2006, 07:54:00 PM
David
Post by: Linc on January 26, 2006, 03:52:00 AM
Post by: Linc on January 30, 2006, 04:29:00 AM
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan30691.jpg)
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan30692.jpg)
Post by: Dano on January 30, 2006, 07:26:00 AM
Post by: Linc on January 30, 2006, 03:59:00 PM
Post by: Linc on February 11, 2006, 07:33:00 AM
I toasted the belly and let set a few days. It didn't recover any wait but it did get some relex back.It also took out some of the twist.The string tracks off center but makes it closer to a center shot bow.S-m-o-o-t-h drawing. Almost as sweet to shoot as Whatchamacallit. :bigsmyl:
Gave her a coat of linseed oil and now in the process of coating with tru-oil.I have 2 of 4 coats so far. I will take some pics later.
Toasting sure gives a nice camo effect. Too bad it's on the belly.LOL. But I don't dare toast the back. :o
Post by: Tim Clark on February 11, 2006, 09:21:00 AM
Well done! Um, not that you overcooked it, but - oh never mind!!!
Post by: Linc on February 11, 2006, 12:25:00 PM
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 11, 2006, 01:58:00 PM
Post by: Linc on February 11, 2006, 07:37:00 PM
Post by: Linc on February 11, 2006, 07:55:00 PM
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Feb11696.jpg)
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Feb11697.jpg)
Post by: AZStickman on February 11, 2006, 08:10:00 PM
Post by: Dano on February 11, 2006, 08:29:00 PM
Post by: Tim Clark on February 11, 2006, 09:04:00 PM
Post by: Linc on February 12, 2006, 05:21:00 AM
Post by: Linc on February 12, 2006, 05:29:00 AM
(http://photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Feb11693.jpg)
Post by: Dano on February 12, 2006, 10:33:00 AM
Post by: Killdeer on February 12, 2006, 10:41:00 AM
killdeer
Post by: Luke Vander Vennen on February 12, 2006, 12:02:00 PM
Post by: Dano on February 12, 2006, 12:19:00 PM
Post by: Huntrdfk on February 12, 2006, 12:49:00 PM
David
Post by: NorthShoreLB on February 12, 2006, 01:22:00 PM
How do you rate belly tempering osage Linc ?
How about some full draw pics of that beauty ?
Manny
Post by: Linc on February 12, 2006, 07:09:00 PM
Thanks David and Manny. The only full draw pics I have are when it was on the tree. I was feeling my oats today and over drew it.TICK!!! Got a couple of splinters on the back.Nuttin serious.Little superglue and some artificial sinew and will be good as new.
Manny, Jury is still out on tempering the belly. This is the first time I've tried it.
Post by: Terry Riley on February 13, 2006, 02:30:00 AM
Nice job on that knarly piece of osage. Like Dano and others suggested, I too always use horn overlays on the tips because the sapwood is so soft. I've enjoyed this thread and am looking forward to the Yew build a long. Have fun.
Terry
Post by: Linc on February 13, 2006, 04:49:00 AM
Post by: Killdeer on February 13, 2006, 06:06:00 AM
Killdeer :D
Post by: Dano on February 13, 2006, 07:24:00 AM