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Topic Archives => Build Alongs => Topic started by: Linc on December 31, 2004, 01:15:00 PM
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I am a bow-a-holic.I admit it and I'm fine with it. :knothead:
As you could tell from my last post,I have started on another bow.This stave of osage has some character.It also has quite a few wind checks,hence the name.
Here is the stave taken down to a single ring.
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Dec28304.jpg)
Here is the profile before thinning.
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Dec28306.jpg)
I am now at the stage of having the stave pretty much layed out and thinning to floor tiller.
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Dec31316.jpg)
It is roughly 1 3/8ths wide at the widest down to 1/2" at the tips. 69 1/2"tip to tip.
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got to watch this Linc with interest cuz i know the origin of the stave. I will be with you all the way...Mac~
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Thanks Mac! In the process a doing some heat bending to get string alignment.I figure I better get that taken care of before any more long string tillering. :wavey:
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Cool Linc, can't wait to see how she turns out.
We wanna see some dang pics of this thang bendin too! ;)
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Yah yah yah,you'll get pics.LOL.
One limb has a slight reflex to it and the other has a slight deflex and a little twist.I may not even try to correct them.The reflexed limb is bending pretty good,a bit stiff at the fade but still pretty good none the less.I'll take some pics in a few hours after the wood has had time to cool.
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Lookin good buddy, love them bows with character!!! :D
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Welcome to Linc's build a bow a day buildalong...slow down and enjoy yourself...Mac~
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Linc, listen to Mac, back away from the draw knife,put that bow down and get upstairs. :bigsmyl:
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I'm b-a-c-k!! :bigsmyl: See me smile.BTW I'm done for the day. :wavey:
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Ok let's have it.Just remember all the whoopdy-doos.(There's quite a few of them) :saywhat:
I welcome any and all comments.I'm about ready to fall asleep sitting here so I'll be signing out now.I hope to hear from you other bow-a-holics. :wavey:
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It looks great, dang son you were busy today.
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Looking good Linc...that's a pretty mean lookin piece of 'Sage. Happy New Year Buddy!
Sparky
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Lookin good so far big guy. Guess i need to get out to the shop and make some shavings. your gonna have 5 built before i get the first one done.
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Happy New Year everyone.
Thanks guys. I appreciate the kind words.
Dano, I've been working on this one for about a week.I spent an hour the first day chasing the ring for the back.The rest was a little here and there till yesterday which was about 5 hours.
Sparky,This is a mean piece of osage.It's coming close to giving me fits. :knothead:
Chad, like Dano said before "This isn't a foot race".You have to remember,I'm not working the kind of hours you are and deer hunting is over.So ya see I have plenty of time (kind of).
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:wavey:
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Snakey bows are the eighth wonder of the world to me! It is cool to watch you guys do that. :thumbsup:
KT
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Linc, don't tell me ya took the day off, how could ya with all us watchin and waitin??? ;) :wavey:
larry
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Today was a day of rest from the snakey stave.Did some knapping and then some napping.
May file in some string grooves,make up a string tonight and get back to it tomorrow.
Thanks MPS and KT,they are fun and challenging to make. Eack has it's own pequliarities to deal with.
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Larry,What's happenin? So sorry about taking the day off.I was so beat that if I tried working on the bow,I probably would have broke it.I broke most everything I tried to knap.
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gonna be hard workin on that bow with all them bandades on yer fingers :saywhat:
larry
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Hasn't stopped me yet.
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Very nice, Linc. You do good work. Jawge
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George, you talking about his fingers, :scared: his knapping ;) or the bow?. :bigsmyl: .Mac~
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Thanks Jawge. :D
Mac,He can't be talking about my hands or fingers. :scared:
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Looking good, waiting for the next pic. I should get my ass into the workshop and do something sensible myself, them holydays wear me out. You guys are lucky to have all that Osage popping up everywhere. Bue--.
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WOW Linc.... You've got that snakey stave tamed down nicely.....Good Job... :thumbsup: Terry
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Thanks Terry.Once I put on the short string it was a whole different story.I been messing with it off and on all day.Maybe I should give it the Calvin treatment.Drink down a six pack and call it good.LOL.Just kidding Calvin.
At the moment that snake stave is being taught a lesson!Heatgun and clamps are teaching it to be good.LOL.Putting some reflex in the limb that had a slight deflex.This thing is givin me fits.I hope to have up some pics in a few hours.
With all the woopdy doos and the side to side waves,it's either to stiff or then it bends to much. :knothead:
Thanks Buemaker.I'm trying.Hope to have something good to show you after this long wait.
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Ah!! sounds like your haveing fun Linc. :bigsmyl:
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You got it buddy. :bigsmyl:
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I was talking to a friend New Years eve who was working a similar stave Linc... He thought he was doing something wrong because he had an area that he couldn't get bending..... I told him to be patient and keep at her.... you'll take wood off for what seems like forever then ... Bam!! It's moving..... Usually more than ya wanted.. :D ..Yep the snakey ones take an extra dose of patience for sure.... Terry
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You're right Terry.It went to far.
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan02328.jpg)
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I've had it for today.I'll play around with it tomorrow after work.
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Man!!! I think that stave just got more difficult :rolleyes:
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This is one time I'd rather have been wrong...Those bows are a tough tiller Linc.... I've blown more than my share of em....Keep after her you'll get it... Terry
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Linc,I've been watching. Best to put it away for a while, and come back to it with a clear head.
Your first tiller pic looked so nice too! Some staves are just plain onery,throw in some character,and BAMMM! Kick it up a notch!
Excersize,until wood removal registers,(or at least when you think it does) :D , before removing anymore.
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Thanks guys.I knew this was going to be a problem from the moment I put the short string on it.The long string can hide a lot of evils.
The weight will not be a problem as this bow will be going to a special Lady.She is a cancer survivor and a friend of the family.She expressed an interest in me making a bow for her to fling some arras with.She is not a hunter, nor is her husband.
Currently the snakey stave is drawing 30#@28".I don't imagine her draw being much over 24".I'll be shortening the bow soon anyway which will gain back some poundage.But first I will need to get her here to try it out to see what kind of weight she is comfortable with.I've made this bow slim with the idea of low mass weight.So now it's just a matter of getting the tiller good and getting the draw weight to her liking. :wavey:
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You know Linc you need to flip it around and look at the other side as well. These character staves are real good at fooling the eyes with turns dips and shadows sometimes you are not seeing what you are actually seeing.
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Yup,You're right Mickey.I flip flopped it quite a few times.I knew better but I screwed up anyways. :knothead: :(
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Sorry it has taken so long to get this thread going again. I've worked on two other snakey bows in the meantime.I just put sinew on the backs today.I strung them backwards and applied sinew.
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan12337.jpg)
I've decided to do something a little different with Checks and Balances.In stead of removing wood from both sides of the hinge,I did a little patch job in that area to make it stiffer.I'll let it set till after work tomorrow before stringing it up.I want to let the glue have plenty of time to set. :rolleyes:
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Dang Linc, you got em strung a little tight don't ya? That's a heck of alot of reflex in the one on the left.
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Dano, I'm wondering how he balanced that Hacksaw off of that limb.lol :smileystooges:
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:bigsmyl: Me too Lee, I didn't notice that.
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Come to think of it I think he's using some of that elephant sinew. 60" sinew on a 56" bow! :scared:
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This oughta be good Lee, Linc should go on Fear Factor. If he makes a bow outa these he is fearless, he is my hero. :D
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HOLY CRAP...I though if you bend a bow backwards it was all over?
Linc tell me about this method.....do you have to cut backwards string groovs?
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how many courses of sinew did you put on the errr...uhhhh..."happy face" bow?LOL!!!!
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I ain't fearless! Ize jest crazzzzzzzzyyyyyyy.
Wasn't easy balancing that hacksaw. LOL.
I'm just toying with the toothpick bow (smiley).It was 57" NTN bend in the handle and around 8-10#@28" LOL.One heavy course of sinew.I plan on shortening the toothpick later. The other bow is 56" NTN bend in the handle 35#@28" Which will also be shortened to make a pony bow.(maybe).
I just figured I would sinew some reflex into them to see what happens.
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Hey, Bud - you've got mail. :)
That bow for the firedrill?
Talk to ya later
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Tim,Email back atcha. :bigsmyl:
Patch job helped a little but not much. Gotta play catch up with the lower limb and try to get it bending closer to the fade.Will be tough as there is a big bump of a pin cluster there.
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan13338.jpg)
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan13339.jpg)
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Jeff,String grooves are done normally.You can string it to brace but DON'T try to draw it.I guess it's about the same as clamping it and putting reflex into it.Just not using heat or steam.From what I hear,as the hide glue and sinew dry out it may draw the bow into even more reflex and increase the draw weight.Maybe you remember Cooter's bow?
The U shaped bow is so danged thin I could probably it backwards and not even hurt it.It's only about 1/2" wide and 3/8" thick at the most.It was actually going to be a joke but I started getting ideas floating around in this thick head of mine. :scared: :knothead:
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She's lookin a little better Linc, you still got a little work left huh? :bigsmyl:
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Alotta bit of work.
I don't think there is enough bow left to get it to a good tiller.It may end up a pony bow yet.
It's either gonna kill me or cure me.NOT!
I'm not going to give up!
I'm not going to give up!
I'm not!I'm not!
How's that sound buddy?
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Sounds like you have the right attitude :knothead: :D You'll make a bow out of her I have faith.
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Oh yes. Bring it home. Looking good. Scrap'er in the middle and scrape the right limb mid limb on. There's nothing like a character bow. It's a rescue and it's special. The tillering is best done with all 5 senses and not just the eye. There's more to a good tiller than meets the eye. The tiller will not appear perfect visually for obvious reasons but you will now it when you have it. It will develop. I will be still now. Jawge
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Oh no Jawge has been into the Uzo again :D Seriously there is a certain feel when a bow starts to bend just right.
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Thanks guys. One way or another this will become a bow or splinters.LOL.
This is being a tough one.It just doesn't want to bend between the patch job and the tip. It is shaped like a very slow U between humps. I'll be working some more on it after work today and most likely all weekend. :bigsmyl:
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finally we got you back. I was about to send folks looking......... Now I know where all those guys on ebay get their bow stringing lessons....Mac~
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:bigsmyl: Mac, now that was funny. Linc could give lessons in a few departments.
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ROTFLMAO. That's a good one Mac. I never would have thought about that.
Did a little heat work tonight but not much else.We'll see what tomorrow brings.Have company coming so I don't know how much I'll get done.
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Well I putz'd around this morning till company came and went out to dinner afterwards.Got home and strung her up.She's starting to come around.
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan15342.jpg)
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan15344.jpg)
Here she is turned around.
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan15346.jpg)
Finally got rid of the hinge.In the first pic the left limb is the snakey limb and the right has all the woopdy-doos and the side to side wave. The snakey limb is bending pretty good other than the outside 1/3rd being stiff.The other limb just doesn't want to form a good arch but it shoots pretty good.Some hand shock but I still have to take some weight off the last 6" to the tips.
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Oh yeah, That bow is looking alot better, way to go Linc. :thumbsup:
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Thanks buddy. Not much else had worked,so I used a heatgun and told it what it was going to do.Guess it worked. :bigsmyl: I've drawn it a little over 100 times and it's still holding true.It even springs back when unstrung with almost no follow. :eek: A little more scraping and tweeking.
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Linc, you've come a long way on that one for sure.It's looking mucho better!
:thumbsup:
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Thanks Timo. It's not so much a problem with the bow,it is more a problem with me.Last few weeks I haven't been myself. :( Can't seem to do much of anything and have it come out right.I hope to be on the road to recovery.
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Buddy that thing is lookin alot better. Hope you get to feeling better soon.
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Thanks buddy.Some of my problems have cleared up to where I got a decent night sleep but still no ambission. :(
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WoW Linc.... You've come quite a ways with that stick.....Way to go....... BTW your Rabbit Fur, of unknown origin :D , Bow sock got a lot of compliments on the javie hunt.....Thank You again for your generosity.... Terry
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Character bow yea! Your character went into this and saved it.
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Terry,I'm glad you liked it and I hope it served you well.
Thanks Terry and Hun. When I get some time after work I'll be doing some more tweeking on it.Hope I can get it to come around some more.I think it will when I start thinning down the last several inches to the tips on the right limb and the outer 1/3rd of the left limb.(I hope} :bigsmyl:
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Terry, that's not rabbit fur
...it's poofy stuff around this camp :D ...Linc can fill you in...Mac~
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Lookin' good, Linc. Jawge
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Thats right, Mac. Poofy stuff from the "Poofmiester"
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Funny you guys talkin poof,Cuz this bow will be getting the poof treatment. :bigsmyl:
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Buddy, them poofy socks ya make are dang nice. The way Ferret and I rabbit hunt, it would take a long, long time to get enough for a sock! It would take us years to get enough for string silencers. It's all his fault though because my dogs don't like him and run off everytime we go hunting.
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Chad maybe it is just the rabbits that run from the ferret. Rabbits and ferrets are not bosom buddies...Mac~
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Chad,If I had to use rabbit pelts from my hunting prowess?Well I wouldn't even have made one silencer yet.
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Sir Linc of Poofymiester, Think your next bow should be backed with sinew and poofy stuff!! :D :D
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Cool Linc...ya done good buddy. Can't wait to see the "poofy stuff" :bigsmyl:
Looks like yer on the down hill stretch...
Sparky
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Thanks buddies.I keep getting all kinds of poofy ideas. :knothead:
I think a few of my ideas will surprise you.I know it will me. :bigsmyl:
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Prince of Poof sounds better.PP for short.
Feeling a little more like my old self today, so I put in sometime on this bugger.Really starting to come around. Few more tweks and I think I'll have it.
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan18347.jpg)
Here it is again turned around.
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan18351.jpg)
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It's looking better all the time. :scared: There are some places in this world that you don't want to be known as the "Prince of Poof" :scared:
(unless you've got your own TV show and not about bow building)
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You thavage!!
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Looking good. Nice save. Tiller is everything.
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Thanks John,The right limb in the bottom pic is really being a devil but I think I see a couple spots I can touch up.1st one being just before the 2 on the graph and the 2nd at the 3.Whatchew think?
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Looking at the right limb in the bottom pic again this morning,being a little more awake.I think I just need to do a little scraping at #3 and it will come around.
I also for got to mention that without a backing,this little 56" NTN beauty is drawing to 30" with no ill effects.
I hope to get back at it after work today.
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Lookin good Linc. Just a little stiff on that one limb. Lemme ask a stupid question. It appears that your tips are bending to approx. the same distance. Now if you weaken that one limb on the right in the bottom pic, will that mess up this or no.
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Shane, It shouldn't unless you remove too much.
There comes a time in everyones life where you say Enough is Enough.I've come to that time.Did a little more tweeking after work and I think this is the best I'm going to try for.
Braced
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan19352.jpg)
Drawn to 28"
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan19354.jpg)
Flipped around.
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan19355.jpg)
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I forgot to mention.I removed the patch as it was a hinderance to the final tillering.
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Looks really good, I didn't even notice the patch was gone. That lady is getting a real special bow. :bigsmyl: Poofy stuff and all!
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Linc, missed this thread the first time 'round, glad it came back up.
Now---Sahweet!!!! :saywhat:
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Linc, is this bow pictured 56" NTN? What weight?
Tiller looks fine. Nice save. It ain't over till YOU says it's over. Congradulations.
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Looks like ya got yourself another bow Linc! Now get her finished up and post some more pics! :thumbsup:
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Thanks for the kind words yo'all.
The stats are. 56"NTN 15#@28".Yes,I know it is a light weight.I'm well prepared to shorten it to gain back poundage but I don't think it will be necessary. This bow is really overbuilt!I've actually draw this beaut to 31".Just wanted to make sure that nothing would let go on her when she shoots it. I'm really becoming a wuss! It really felt comfortable to shoot this baby. :rolleyes:
Profile of the owner: This Lady is a multiple time cancer Survivor!!! Both breasts have been removed and lung cancer (she's never smoked!) She always has a smile on her face and enjoys life. She is going through tuff times of late as her husband just had bladder surgery for cancer.
Her main concern was draw weight.When she had surgery for her lung cancer,they went through her back on her right side.We have as yet not been able to set up a day and time for us to get together for her to try it out.I think her draw will be around 24-26".Consequently the draw will be lighter accordingly.
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Glasspoint,Thanks.I've only given lessons once.LeeNY has been my only pupil.Helped Larry a little but other than that nobody has asked.LOL.Besides that I'm no teacher and I'm pretty new to this myself. :o
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Lee, Way to stick with it bro.A fine bow ,for a fine woman,made be a fine guy!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :notworthy:
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Thanks Curt.
I've got an apology and a thank you to make. I made a false statement as to the length.It is 68" NTN and a Thank you to DCM for questioning the length.The 56"NTN that I quoted is from another bow that I'm working on.For some reason that number stuck in my head and transferred itself to this bow.I am very sorry for the mistake,please forgive me as I wasn't trying to misrepresent the actual vitals. :( :o :knothead: :knothead: :knothead:
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No big deal Linc. 56" seemed short for that bow.
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Yes I went to the POOFYMIESTER BOW MAKING ACADEMY!!!!!!!! :readit: There's my Diploma! :bigsmyl: :bigsmyl: :bigsmyl:
The bow I made there is still alive and shoots great.
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I think it was more the fact that you got the osage from Sci-Fries than my teachings. :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
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Lookin real good Linc, nice save buddy!!
I like that Lee, The POOFYMIESTER BOW MAKING ACADEMY, it has a nice ring to it. :bigsmyl:
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I'm rejoining the ranks as "grasshopper".I can't even begin to fill the shoes of a teacher. :(
Thanks Dano. I hope to do a lot better on the next project bow.
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let me be right up front here :eek: Linc has assisted me a few time with bow building, but, I have never attended a POOFYMEISTER anything!!
larry
my wife on occasion has accused me of being to macho :D
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If you remember Professor Poofy I learned to build, tiller, patch, and back in one session. I couldn't lift my arms for a week :scared: :scared: but it was worth it!
That lady is getting a really fine one there!
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Glad you straightened that up. I would also like to re-iterate that I have never taught anyone to be poofy. Larry is a no-frills or poofy kind of guy. :wavey:
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Larry don't be so modest, you were the Valadictorian :knothead:
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Lee,You are correct.But,I didn't teach you POOFY,now did I? You may get guilt by association though.
Your stho sthilly.
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I think I'm getting punchy.Time for me to go to bed. Nite-nite.
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Good night teacher
I don't remember Poofy being in my cirriculum.
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had a little time today and thought I would add a little cosmetics.
Horn tip overlays and a horn palm swell.
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan23357.jpg)
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Jan23368.jpg)
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I'll have to try some other time to get a better pic of the tip overlays.Sorry.
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Lookin good Linc, did you use epoxy to glue em up?
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Nope,I thought I would give TBII a try.I never have very good luck with epoxy. :knothead:
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Didin't know TBII would work for gluing on antler! Learn something new everyday. Been fun watching this one buddy.
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Linc..... I use epoxy mixed with horn or antler dust, depending on the type of overlay, as a filler when I glue my overlays on....never had one pop...... I'd be inclined to go with CA gel over Titebond II if epoxy is not to your liking..... Nice job bringing the tiller home..... :thumbsup: Terry
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Thanks Terry. I had read your tutorial on horn tip overlays.I just had TBII handy so that's what I used.I think CA gel would have been a better choice.If nothing else,this could be considered a test.I roughed up both surfaces real good to give more surface area for the glue to hold on to.
Chad, Not sure how well TBII will work.It seems to work good for most everything else.
BIG QUESTION! What can you use to dye the horn? I'm not sure if I like the natural color that much.Might want to make them black.
Sorry it's taking so long to get this baby finished. I've been put on overtime at work. 6 day work week @ 10 hrs a day.Doesn't leave much time for anything else.I'm also splitting up my time and working some on a "special project bow".
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Blah, Blah, BLAH!!! Get er done dude!!!TB II will probably hold, I wouldn't be surprized.
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I will be finishing it up this weekend.(I hope).
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Sorry I let this one drop but I thought I would post a pic of the happy owner.
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leico526/Feb15389.jpg)
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Linc, Ya done good buddy. :thumbsup: She looks real happy with it.
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Yep, she looks happy to me :thumbsup: :D
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Yep,She was one happy camper. :bigsmyl: