Guys,
I've read a lot of good things on here about Schafer recurves and am thinking of taking the plunge. However, before I do, I would like hear more thoughts from current Schafer owners or persons who have shot Schafers. FYI, I currently shoot BW, Palmer, Bob Lee recurves and was wondering if they will be similar in performance/workmanship/grip. Any information provided will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
I got my first Schafer a week ago (used from a tradganger) by trading a Dale Dye. This is probably not enough time to truly evaluate it, but so far I am impressed with it's looks, feel, smoothness, accuracy, etc.
Maybe all the kudos we hear from their owners have some validity. I am sure it can shoot right along with the best of them.
I haven't tried a Schafer 'curve yet, but I did have one of the longbows for a while and it was a sweety, just a bit too heavy for me.
Hands down the best I've shot. Trust me I've shot most of them. Very quiet and efficient and you can't beat there service. Beth and Dave are top notch bowyers, while staying humble and personable. I have another one coming in Febuary.
Give them a shot you won't be dissapointed.
I own a longbow, and I have a recurve on order. performance, workmanship is outstanding. as good or better than the others you mentioned. One sure thing, Dave Windauer makes the best grip out there, and Beth is :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I only own one custom bow. It's a Schafer Silvertip!
I've owned several high end bows and after trying a Schafer I sold all the others and now own a Schafer TD recurve and have one of Dave's new 3 piece Td longbows due in July.Performance, workingmanship and service is OUTSTANDING!!! Beth and Dave are great to deal with. I agree with Alex, Beth is :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I've got a silvertip. I think it's one of the best bows I've shot. Very accurate and smooth! And has the best grip I've felt on a bow.
Thanks for the great info guys. Anyone else?
Moon,
I spent about 5 years trading recurves to find the "right" one for me. I could never get my hands on a Schafer or Dye, so I went to MT to try them. NO comparison IMO. I can't shoot anything else anymore and Dave and Beth are two of the best people anywhere.
Don't just buy one though...try one out first.
Just because we think they are the best thing going doesn't mean you will. I mean, you do like the Widow for goodness sake :p (just kidding--Ken Beck and the "new" owners are great folks with a great bow too). Everybody has their likes and mine are EXACTLY what Dave builds.
Started out with a one piece longbow and got stupid one time and sold it. Currently have two TD recurves and they are sweet. You won't find a better grip. After the holidays I need to find another Schafer longbow. If anyone has a 1 piece in the 50# to 58#@28" range and interested in selling they can PM me.
Merry Christmas
Moon,
I've been through a lot of bows looking for my "Holy Grail". I'm not looking anymore.....
Best grip I've ever had, dead in the hand, shoots where you look and smokes an arrow.
Fred - I just ordered a 3 pce LB on Wednesday....I'm always a couple of months behind you, LOL!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Muddiver/2719_Silvertip_2_1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Muddiver/2719_Silvertip_1_1.jpg)
QuoteOriginally posted by Bob Walker:
Moon,
I've been through a lot of bows looking for my "Holy Grail". I'm not looking anymore.....
Best grip I've ever had, dead in the hand, shoots where you look and smokes an arrow.
Fred - I just ordered a 3 pce LB on Wednesday....I'm always a couple of months behind you, LOL!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Muddiver/2719_Silvertip_2_1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Muddiver/2719_Silvertip_1_1.jpg)
That bow and yard looks familiar.................. :cool:
Hey Tim!
If you find any more of those trashy things lying around that you want to get rid of, just give me a call...Just remember that I shoot the girlie weights, LOL! Take care, bud...
QuoteOriginally posted by Bob Walker:
Hey Tim!
If you find any more of those trashy things lying around that you want to get rid of, just give me a call...Just remember that I shoot the girlie weights, LOL! Take care, bud...
You got it Brother!
Glad she is taking care of you......
Have a Merry Christmas.........
When I began shooting a trad bow, I had a Martin Mountaineer, then purchased a Black Widow MAIII. Shot the widow for a few years but then wanted to find what fit me best. I tried a Robertson Vision Falcon, a Blacktail Elite and a Schafer TD recurve.
As soon as I had the Schafer in my hand I knew this was it. The best grip of any bow I have tried. Smooth draw, surprising speed for such a smooth draw, shoots where you look, very quiet and dead in the hand after the shot.
The Windauer's are the sort of people we should all be proud to call friends. Service above and beyond what is required.
They offer a test drive program, try one and make sure you have the deposit funds ready to send out.
If someone will post a photo for me I will send the pic of the lineup of bows I tried, had them all at once, a great way to try them out.
QuoteOriginally posted by Eric in FLA:
When I began shooting a trad bow, I had a Martin Mountaineer, then purchased a Black Widow MAIII. Shot the widow for a few years but then wanted to find what fit me best. I tried a Robertson Vision Falcon, a Blacktail Elite and a Schafer TD recurve.
As soon as I had the Schafer in my hand I knew this was it. The best grip of any bow I have tried. Smooth draw, surprising speed for such a smooth draw, shoots where you look, very quiet and dead in the hand after the shot.
The Windauer's are the sort of people we should all be proud to call friends. Service above and beyond what is required.
They offer a test drive program, try one and make sure you have the deposit funds ready to send out.
If someone will post a photo for me I will send the pic of the lineup of bows I tried, had them all at once, a great way to try them out.
I can post the image for you.......
Mail it to timschoenborn@mac.com
They will make you a more accurate shooter than you really are... SHHHHHH! don't tell the guys I shoot with... :p
I must say that I will have a brand new Silvertip in about 2 weeks. I could have it sooner, but I will be visiting family over the holidays.
When I did the test drive, I could not believe the speed of the bow compared to how smooth the draw was. I have not shot other top-end bows like Border, Morrison, BW, Habu, etc. For me, it only took about 10 minutes of shooting the Silvertip to know that I wanted this bow!
Beth and Dave are great people to work with, and once I kill some elk, moose, caribou, muleys, whitetails, and other stuff with mine, I will let you know just how great this bow is.
Brett
Hey Bob, That's one sweet looking "tip" you've got there....love them skins!! What woods you getting in your LB? Fred
Fred,
I think I'm gonna have Dave do it to match the curve. How about you?
Bob
Mine's gonna be 60" 53#@27" Rosewood dymondwood riser with accent stripe and koa limbs with sheep horn nocks and checkered grip. Beth sent me some pics of a recurve with this combo and it was a beauty!
well, as a member of the schafer fan club i might as well chime in here....
my schafer is without question my "go to" bow. i consistantly shoot it the best and it is everything you could ask for in a hunting bow and more. for me, it instills confidence and that is the name of the game.
IMO the windauer's run a FIRST CLASS operation and dave is one of the best, if not the best, bowyers in the world. the schafer silvertip is a time tested proven performer and a thing of beauty.
I have two bows,a 62' 70@29 and a 60" 65@29 and 75@29 both are Silvertips. One is custom and one is used. I have not shot them all or even a few of them. But Tips are the best. The two I have will not be the last either,much to my wifes chagrin. :bigsmyl:
I am going to chime in and agree with all the statements above. The Silvertip curve is my go to bow. If I were leaving on a Elk hunt first thing in the morning, my Silvertip would be the bow of choice. I am the trad ganger that Blackhawk traded his Dye for my back up Silvertip. No regrets by the way, the Dye is incredible and I have been after one for a few years-It is a keeper. I have owned nearly a dozen Palmers over the last 2 years and they have all been sold. I am down to my Silvertip curve, my newly acquired Dye and my recently received ACS CX. Dave and Beth are the best and so are there bows. I have also owned Dave's longbow, just recently sold to finance his newly released 3 pc t/d longbow. I have never read any negative press about there bows-That in itself is impressive.
For Eric In Fla..........
That is a sharp Rosewood Tip by the way..........
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Oooooooo, that is a nice little stable there...
Widow, Tip, Robertson, and Blacktail?
I tried all those too-kept the Rosewood one :D
Tim,
Thanks for the help. A 62" MAIII that was adopted and moved to Colorado; The Schafer demo bow, a 62" 58#@28 cocobolo riser; a 60" 60#@28 Robertson and a 60" Blacktail. All were nice but for me the Schafer was it. All but the Schafer were FF.
So Moon, try as many as you can, go with what fits you best. Unlike wives you can trade or sell bows with little cost. The Windauers are great people and will treat you right. Should you purchase a Schafer and decide not to keep it, use this thread as a mailing list for prospective buyers.
You can't go wrong with a Silvertip. Smooth drawing and stable.
I currently have 2 silvertips and 1 silverghost. I just picked up another tip on here and it is hands down my best shooting bow. Everyone is right on about trying a number of different bows. My first recurve was a widow and I thought this was the best but kept trying new bows and once I shot the silvertip I have pretty much stayed with it. I must confess though that my go to bow has been my old Bear takedown, not becouse it shoots better but for sentimental reasons.
If you were to paint all bows black I don't think I could tell the difference between any of them. I think I could shoot any bow and within a short amount of time be shooting as well as I ever have or near to it. That's not to say I can shoot any bow great far from it but when you use a bow for close up work there doesn't seem to be that much difference once you get the feel of a particular bow.
Having said all that I enjoy shooting my Schafer and think it is a beautiful piece of work made by very nice people probably why I bought it.
Rico ole buddy, just curious how long have you been shooting? Because I sure as heck could tell, there bows and then there are bows ... :) Schafer and Dye's mention are some of my favs...mark#78
Only since '74 shot pearson,redwings,browning,bear,howatts,bw,bighorn,schafer and probably afew I have forgot
Why did I say something wrong? Nothing aganinst any of them how is anyone better than the others I haven't noticed, they feel different in the hand because of the grip right now I am shooting a schafer nice bow, if I was to switch to some other bow for awhile and switch back the schafer would feel change for awhile. I haven't found a bow that I can say has made me a better shooter
Tim,
I had a chance to shoot Bob Walker's tip pictured in this thread while we were on our
" Lackaboo " Caribou Hunt in September...I can tell you it's hands down the hottest, sweetest shooting bow I've ever handled...and it feels about 5 to 7 lbs lighter than its marked too.
When it slammed the arrow THROUGH a foam block I was convinced..if Bob ever gets tired of that bow it has a permanent home at my house that's for sure.
QuoteOriginally posted by Ray Hammond:
Tim,
I had a chance to shoot Bob Walker's tip pictured in this thread while we were on our
" Lackaboo " Caribou Hunt in September...I can tell you it's hands down the hottest, sweetest shooting bow I've ever handled...and it feels about 5 to 7 lbs lighter than its marked too.
When it slammed the arrow THROUGH a foam block I was convinced..if Bob ever gets tired of that bow it has a permanent home at my house that's for sure.
Hey Ray.........
Yep that is a really nice Tip. Only reason I sold it was I have the identical bow in a heavier weight in a 60" version. That bow was a little light for me is all. I agree that it really didn't pull like 70lbs either. I should add it got a good home!
Merry Christmas also Ray and everyone else!
I have 2 silvertips...smoothness is quite unbelivable...I have widows, morrisons, robertsons and many others too but those are really the bests...the speed level is quite good too...however the riser is not the best I know for the torque control, that's the only little restriction I could make.
i just got my silvertip back in october and likewise i will never own another bow iam sure. Just simply loved it from the very first shot. dave and beth are definatly just great people. Hope you get one and enjoy as much as i have.
get one, and IMO get a FF model
I can tell you my brother David loves the used one he bought at Comptons this past year. I know value is a relative thing, but before he left the rendezvous that weekend, he was offered $300 over what he just paid for the bow one day earlier! He is so glad he did not sell it. Confidence comes in strange packages, and his came in that red Schafer bow. He took this great buck with it in November. Mike
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You know, I should have at least got a steak from that deer for finding him that bow... ;)
You are right Steve. I will let Whitey know....but are you sure you want one off that Ol' buck or the sweet doe he killed in October! Ha!
Herdbull, whatever you and your brother are doing, you are doing it right!
Rich LaBombard
"Herdbull, whatever you and your brother are doing, you are doing it right!"
i was thinking the same thing :bigsmyl: :thumbsup:
good stuff guys! :thumbsup:
on the silvertip there is however a problem with the varnish durability onto the snake skin limbs....after a year of intensive use with around 15.000 shots, the varnish of the limbs is peeling from everywhere...it takes off in small plates and I should be obliged to make the bow refinished ASAP...
I've shot Shafer's before and they really impressed me--so much that I have my 1st recurve due next week.Might have a bunch of Widow's on the classifieds soon :jumper:
Post up any recent Tips, I need a fix bad.
Calm down Izzy, you will love it. I just came in from shooting my 52# Tip and I am more impressed all the time.
D.P.