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Title: Longbow-men
Post by: PastorSteveHill on December 19, 2007, 11:09:00 PM
Guys, when you heel the bow, are you pushing the heel into the SPOT you are intending on hitting? Or is it a more relaxed type heel?  

I started driving my bow arm toward the target and am getting pretty good results so far...

What is your take?
Title: Re: Longbow-men
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on December 19, 2007, 11:15:00 PM
I push enuff to not torq the bow, but to push the arrow to the spot....
Title: Re: Longbow-men
Post by: Matty on December 19, 2007, 11:28:00 PM
Be careful of "Pushing", If you are right handed, your left deltoid will force the Bow to the left,  as much as I want to I do my best to keep my heel off the bow. theres something to be said for the stability however the more I study shots the more I see the hand webbing just under the shelf is the place to be..Just an opinion
Title: Re: Longbow-men
Post by: Holm-Made on December 19, 2007, 11:51:00 PM
I shoot so much better when I push the bow to the target rather than hold it.  Helps with the release, anchor, everything.  I think you are on the right track as long as the pressure is reasonable.  You wouldn't want to overpower the bow as stated above.  

Your longbow should have a slightly stiffer lower limb to accomodate even pressure on the hand and grip.  A bow tillered this way will still shoot well if the majority of the pressure is in the web of the hand but the nocking point may need to be adjusted slightly.   :)  Chad
Title: Re: Longbow-men
Post by: Bjorn on December 20, 2007, 12:39:00 AM
Yeah, pushing really works. I keep my hand open and only hold on enough so that the bow does not fly away on release. Pushing the bow keeps my bow arm steady after release.
Title: Re: Longbow-men
Post by: Ausable on December 20, 2007, 01:57:00 AM
I apply light pressure forward with my bow arm in line and focued on the target coming to full draw. I've been trying to get better at aligning the bow more right from the beginning and then come straight back, seems to help my consistency.
Title: Re: Longbow-men
Post by: PastorSteveHill on December 20, 2007, 07:44:00 AM
Do guys who shoot recurves ever do this "Push thing" as well or is it only longbows with straight grips???
Title: Re: Longbow-men
Post by: BobW on December 20, 2007, 08:53:00 AM
I find that when I concentrate on expanding my chest/squeezing my shoulder blades (back tension), it causes the above mentioned "push", without going to the extreme.
Title: Re: Longbow-men
Post by: TexMex on December 20, 2007, 09:09:00 AM
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Title: Re: Longbow-men
Post by: SpikeMaster on December 20, 2007, 10:18:00 AM
I was having trouble shooting to the left until I started pushing with my bow arm. Now I'm hitting right down the center even on longer shots. I think that when I'm not pushing I'm collapsing. I would think collapsing would make me shoot right but seems to make me shoot left( I'm right handed).
Title: Re: Longbow-men
Post by: tukudu on December 20, 2007, 11:05:00 AM
Steve,
  If you have access to TBM Fred Asbell did a great article on this whole push pull concept and it was by far one of the best he has written on the subject. Read it though a couple of times because their is alot of good information and he really nails it down.
Title: Re: Longbow-men
Post by: BobCo 1965 on December 20, 2007, 11:14:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by tukudu:
Steve,
  If you have access to TBM Fred Asbell did a great article on this whole push pull concept and it was by far one of the best he has written on the subject. Read it though a couple of times because their is alot of good information and he really nails it down.
Do you know what issue? I wouldn't mind reading it myself.
Title: Re: Longbow-men
Post by: laddy on December 20, 2007, 12:22:00 PM
Pastor Steve it is important to know what your grip angle of your bow is.  If it come from your cousin Howard it's like this " Howard used to say get a hold of it."  If it is a pistol grip no matter what the limbs look like you should hold like a recurve.  That is why I like straighter longbow grips.  Get that bow right into your hand and shove it at the target, but not so far that it unbends your arm joints.  The dynamic spring of your arm will keep the bow's reaction toward the target versus rotating around the contact point.