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Title: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on February 21, 2015, 10:02:00 AM
This knife Just came in today. I am a very happy camper. Hope to take a deer next season with my Deerslayer, and use this knife. Need to find a few of the Old Zwickey special order broadheads to use.

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Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Sean B on February 21, 2015, 10:26:00 AM
That's pretty cool Shane!!!
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: JavelinaHink on February 22, 2015, 09:22:00 AM
The Special Order Zwickeys came in 2bld and 4bld,which are you looking for.
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on February 22, 2015, 09:32:00 AM
Bill, I didn't know the 4 blade was found. I would like the 2 blade.
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: JavelinaHink on February 22, 2015, 10:08:00 AM
Three 4blds where found in 2003 in two separate finds , one had the patent number stamped on the blade, mine was without stamped patent on a Bear arrow and then four where found in 2012 , two stamped and two without. Extra one doesn't have stamp.

     The two blade came in 100gr.144gr.168gr Not sure what ones I have extras in but have 1/2 doz of one of them on Bear arrows they came with. I'll look around here and see.

    I know you don't want to loose one hunting so the 4bld is out for that reason.
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on February 22, 2015, 10:15:00 AM
Exactly, and thank you!!!
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: TBinMN on February 22, 2015, 11:50:00 PM
Congratulations Shane - that is just plain cool.

I still have my Hunters Pal that I was given in 1969 by a family friend who infected me with the love of archery and an admiration for Fred Bear that has stuck with me ever since.

I didn't actually know until about 10 years later that it was one of the knives Fred used in his personal kit.

Thanks for posting, I always look forward to what you find out there.

Terry
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on February 23, 2015, 09:01:00 AM
Thank you Terry! I am constantly searching.
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Coondawg on February 23, 2015, 09:33:00 AM
Very cool
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Medicare Bhtr on February 23, 2015, 03:04:00 PM
Shane, could you post a pic of the Zwickeys you're looking for?
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on February 23, 2015, 07:17:00 PM
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Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Wade Phillips on February 24, 2015, 12:48:00 AM
Shane,

The Hunter's Pal looks like it is in new, unused condition. Have owned several of them in used condition since the 1960s, but have never had one with the rear of the edge being serrated.

What number is stamped on the top of the brass guard?
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on February 24, 2015, 04:31:00 AM
Wade, 55472 and if I did my homework correctly it's a 1974
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on February 24, 2015, 05:00:00 AM
Picture of Fred and Bolo Robert made him. Also one of Fred and Henrietta when they visited.

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Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on February 24, 2015, 05:07:00 AM
Another neat item that Fred gave Robert's wife is the skull you can see on the table in 1975 Catalog where Fred has a pipe in his mouth.

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Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on February 24, 2015, 05:11:00 AM
Here is the Buckle mentioned in the letter. TJ Conrad has one, and John Grumley had one along with a few others.

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Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: cmh on February 25, 2015, 05:02:00 PM
Now am I to understand that the knife pictured belonged to Fred Bear? That belt buckle is a work of art  ;)  i apologize as my cell phone is my only net access so I can't read the letter very well. Thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on February 25, 2015, 11:23:00 PM
Yes Craig, I will try again to get this so it can be read on here. The letter is a great part of the history on the knife. I can E mail if it helps.

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Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: cmh on February 26, 2015, 12:51:00 AM
WOW!!!!! Thank you for reposting that so I could read it. I cannot imagine having anything of Fred Bears let alone a knife from him. That's all very impressive. Thanks for sharing  ;)
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on February 26, 2015, 07:46:00 AM
Glad you were able to read it Craig. Thank you for the kind words.
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: highlife on March 01, 2015, 11:55:00 AM
I'd have to agree, that belt buckle is AMAZING. The detail is so spot on with the mountains, the accuracy of the recurve shape and the Bear broadheads ... Wow!
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on March 01, 2015, 09:41:00 PM
Vincent, they were commisioned to be like Fred's but a bit bigger as that was the in thing of the time.
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: OldSkoolArcher on March 02, 2015, 05:20:00 PM
I am confused. Is the knife one that Fred owned/carried/used or just the same type he owned/carried/used??
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on March 02, 2015, 05:33:00 PM
Nick Fred owned it but does not appear used.  It is a 1974 Puma given to Robert in 1977. I double checked with a few people before making the purchase. I asked Patsy Wiseman Snider who worked for Fred for years, was his neighbor and the Executive secretary of the FBSC working beside Frank Scott. I wanted to know if Fred just gave these away or if it was his. Anyway she said it's one that Fred  likely had as a back up. She made no mention of these knives being handed out as gifts and that Fred and Robert talking about what Fred used for a knife sparked the generous gift.
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on March 02, 2015, 05:57:00 PM
Shane, you are stating to piece togethr an amazing collection.
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: OldSkoolArcher on March 02, 2015, 06:50:00 PM
Very cool! Thanks for sharing with us.
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on March 02, 2015, 11:46:00 PM
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Bjorn on March 05, 2015, 08:26:00 PM
Beautiful collector pieces as always Shane! Before the Hunter's Pal and Hunter's Friend Puma made the Jagnicker a very handsome knife the same size as the Hunter's Pal and featuring a beautiful silver pommel (yes like an idiot I sold one I had),  During WW2 Puma and perhaps others, made knives and bayonets for the German military.
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on March 05, 2015, 09:04:00 PM
Bjorn, I have a Rodger Williams sheffield knife I bought at an antique store. Guessing WWII. It has some notches on the top of blade. I am guessing not from Stag harvests. Someone told me it was ground down like a para troopers knife. I am not a collector of that stuff. Just couldn't pass up the only thing close to hunting gear in the shop.
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Kip on March 06, 2015, 05:11:00 PM
I have a brief case with knives.One knife is a fixed blade but  has a folding guthook and sawblade in the handle.The second is a 10" dagger,third is a puma style and last one is a folder with knife blade,gut hook,and saw blade and wine corkscrew.there is a stick sharpener all handles are genuine stag.You lift up the tray of knives and under is a sheath for each one in green leather.There was a business card in Russian language.I was told the the East Germans made these knives and case for Russian Officers in the 50's or 60's.Really uninque but I use them for hunting and cleaning game.The dagger has not been used yet but you never know.I bought this set on this site a few years ago.Kip
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Bjorn on March 26, 2015, 07:30:00 PM
Somewhere on the internet I recall seeing older (late 1950's) Puma knives with black handles and bear logos imbedded. Anybody else seen them?
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Bjorn on April 15, 2015, 08:46:00 PM
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Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Shane Reed on April 15, 2015, 08:51:00 PM
I have not but they are very nice!
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Larry m on April 15, 2015, 09:33:00 PM
That is a sweet looking setup but I bet a bit pricey! Very Nice Bjorn...............
Title: Re: Fred's Puma Hunters Pal
Post by: Takedown on May 01, 2015, 04:23:00 PM
Bjorn,
What are the handles of the knife and file made of? Ebony? Horn? That set looks great!
Harry