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Title: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: TomatoLane on February 27, 2014, 10:40:00 AM
I got the riser for a project,it feels so comfortable in my hand real nice grip.

The owner was told a story,but did not know if its true.
So was hopeing,maybe someone here may recognize it.
Story...(A guy who worked with Bill Pyle, of stag horn archery, in the 60s, told him that these where proto types they where working on at the time(he had 5 risers, but he only had one left)

I would have loved to get all 5 LOL.But any way. here it is.

    (http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii570/tomatolane/DSC005461_zps9e69c355.jpg)

    (http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii570/tomatolane/DSC005431_zps8d76fd3c.jpg)

very thick handle,very Asbell like.

    (http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii570/tomatolane/DSC005471_zps2ada5127.jpg)

    (http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii570/tomatolane/DSC005451_zpsea201c4c.jpg)

    (http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii570/tomatolane/DSC005441_zps3f319ccd.jpg)

    (http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii570/tomatolane/DSC005501_zpsfae92d97.jpg)

    (http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii570/tomatolane/DSC005511_zps90a012bd.jpg)

    (http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii570/tomatolane/DSC005411_zps0e14d3d2.jpg)

Anyone recognize it?
Title: Re: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: Blackhawk on February 27, 2014, 12:13:00 PM
It looks like a nice piece of bubinga you have there.
Title: Re: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: TomatoLane on February 27, 2014, 12:58:00 PM
What company was making bows  out of bubinga .
wood,back in the day?

You wood guys always amaze me.

I had never even heard the name Bubinga wood,untill just now, LOL  :)
Title: Re: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 27, 2014, 03:17:00 PM
The way there are triangular holes drilled in the side of the limb area an just the one bolt hole where the 'limb pocket' would be, as well as a straight riser (no deflex), it really looks like a wood handled compound riser with the metal limb attachment brackets taken off.
Title: Re: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: TomatoLane on February 27, 2014, 03:50:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ray Lyon:
The way there are triangular holes drilled in the side of the limb area an just the one bolt hole where the 'limb pocket' would be, as well as a straight riser (no deflex), it really looks like a wood handled compound riser with the metal limb attachment brackets taken off.
Hey that is another route to contemplate also.

Here is a little more detailed of that area.both sides are that way

   (http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii570/tomatolane/DSC005531_zps2491b6e5.jpg)

   (http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii570/tomatolane/DSC005521_zps35dfaed8.jpg)

   (http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii570/tomatolane/DSC005491_zpse6591393.jpg)

   (http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii570/tomatolane/DSC005481_zps0fd72c29.jpg)

I guess,If it it is a old compound riser, it would be a warf bow huh?
Title: Re: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: Blackhawk on February 27, 2014, 04:08:00 PM
It seems to me that bubinga (also called African Rosewood and other stuff) became popularized in the early 60's, particularly with Bear in the '61 Kodiak and was used by Bear for many years afterwards.

I can see that as a wood compound riser too.
Title: Re: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: TomatoLane on February 27, 2014, 06:53:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ray Lyon:
The way there are triangular holes drilled in the side of the limb area an just the one bolt hole where the 'limb pocket' would be, as well as a straight riser (no deflex), it really looks like a wood handled compound riser with the metal limb attachment brackets taken off.
It sure dose look alot like this one

bottom of this page.

Says herters 6 wheel
 http://www.archeryhistory.com/compounds/70.php

Herters 6 wheel compound?  
 
     (http://www.archeryhistory.com/compounds/70picsnew/hertersjpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: 59Alaskan on February 27, 2014, 07:29:00 PM
Looks like TomatoLane may be right, BUT to keep it trad I am saying it looks like a future ILF rig.

Definitely a nice piece of wood!
Title: Re: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: jrbows on February 27, 2014, 07:31:00 PM
Didn't Herters use side plates like that on their take-downs also?(Minus the kick-back to catch the evil wheel) Sorry don't remember the model name.
Title: Re: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: TomatoLane on February 27, 2014, 07:43:00 PM
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Originally posted by ceme24:
Looks like TomatoLane may be right, BUT to keep it trad I am saying it looks like a future ILF rig.

Definitely a nice piece of wood!
Wondering if herters takedown limbs will fit it.

Would be cool if it was an early ILF riser.
Title: Re: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: TomatoLane on February 27, 2014, 07:55:00 PM
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Originally posted by jrbows:
Didn't Herters use side plates like that on their take-downs also?(Minus the kick-back to catch the evil wheel) Sorry don't remember the model name.
Like these?

     (http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii570/tomatolane/indexbow_zps44144cbe.jpg)

and this one

    (http://***********.bowsite.com/tf/pics/00small24096938.JPG)
Title: Re: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: jrbows on February 27, 2014, 09:21:00 PM
Yes those are the ones I was talking about.
Title: Re: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: TomatoLane on February 28, 2014, 10:15:00 AM
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Originally posted by jrbows:
Yes those are the ones I was talking about.
DO you think, those limbs will work, with some mods I am sure.

Or do you think making it an ILF limb bow would be easier?

Or just a regular bolt on style limb.

I am not much of a wood worker,But if it was any kind of alloy,I would tig weld it right up.

I am wanting to make a takedown penobscott style bow.
Really depends on the limb/limb adapter plate,I fab.

But first stage is to make it a takedown Longbow or recurve.

Or I may just find another riser, And just turn this back into a Herters 6 wheel.

But that is the last resort,I have kinda of been retired from compound bows,since my earl 30s
Title: Re: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: Danny Rowan on February 28, 2014, 02:25:00 PM
yep, early Herters wheel bow riser.
Title: Re: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: jrbows on February 28, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
I have seen an article on warf-ing a riser into a take-down if I remember right the landing for the limb has a pretty narrow window angle-wise for making a wheel bow riser accept recurve limbs. I'd do some checking with the guys who have done these before I got in to deep good luck.
Title: Re: Late 1960s Takedown Riser ID help(pic heavy)
Post by: stagetek on March 01, 2014, 10:15:00 AM
Riser looks more like the wheelie bow than the T/D to me.