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Title: Opinions requested
Post by: Curtiss Cardinal on December 15, 2007, 04:35:00 PM
I own a 1966 Bear Kodiak(I'll post pics soon)
I just got the bow back from BowDoc. is looks practically factory new or better because of the depth of finish. Anyway, he didn't put a shelf or strike plate or a new string on it. LLC restrictions probably. Well my questions are, Will a B50 60" string work for this 64" bow? should I get just any B50 or should I try and find a period string from my collection (I have 15 or so 1968 - 74 strings in various sizes. They are still in the factory tubes or from someone else? Second I really like the Seal Skin shelf rests and strike plate and zelcro but should I use a Bear Hair and leather strike plate. I guess I;m saying should I do the little tweeks that add a little to the performance of the bow or just do a restoration to fctory specs?
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: Shakes.602 on December 15, 2007, 04:49:00 PM
Can Someone  PLEASE  tell Me what  LLC  IS??  :confused:   Sorry C2, I dont have any answers for ya? I am not trying to HiJack yer Thread Either!  :rolleyes:   Sounds like BowDoc did a Fine Job on Your Bear!!  :thumbsup:    :archer:
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: Dano on December 15, 2007, 04:51:00 PM
Curtiss, if your gonna shoot her, I would tweek her.
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: 2 dogs on December 15, 2007, 04:55:00 PM
if your gonna shoot it make it the way you like it.llc means limited liability corporation.
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: Curtiss Cardinal on December 15, 2007, 05:29:00 PM
I'm gonna shoot it and hunt with it if we get along.
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: Crooked Stic on December 15, 2007, 08:22:00 PM
I would keep B-50 or equivlant. I dont think it would handle any low strecth stuff. They say anything over 50 lbs. needs 16 strands. I have used 14 with no problems. Yes usally curves ned a sting 4 in. shorter than the actual length of the bow.I done know that much about Bears but I( did not know they made a Kodiak that long.
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: Gene Roberts on December 15, 2007, 09:01:00 PM
I have no clue whatsoever.
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: dragonheart on December 15, 2007, 09:09:00 PM
I would buy the restoration bear rest strikeplate from Three Rivers, get an endless loop B-50 string that fits the bow and hang the bow on the wall.  41 year old limbs, I think you are asking for a disappointment.

Jeff
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: Wapiti Chaser on December 15, 2007, 09:33:00 PM
On my 66 Grizz I put a B50 string and Leather strike plate along with a Bear feather rest from Three Rivers. Shoots great and I killed a buck with it to boot.
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: sgrogg on December 15, 2007, 10:23:00 PM
LLC = Limited Liability Corporation
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: Shawn Leonard on December 15, 2007, 10:52:00 PM
Jeff, I have shot many bows with limbs older than that. They still shoot the same and the poundage is the same as well. I would shoot a 10 strand endless B-50 if you are gona shoot her. Shawn
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: luv2bowhunt on December 15, 2007, 10:52:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by dragonheart:
I would buy the restoration bear rest strikeplate from Three Rivers, get an endless loop B-50 string that fits the bow and hang the bow on the wall.  41 year old limbs, I think you are asking for a disappointment.

Jeff
I have been shooting a 1957 Kodiak Special with no ill effects whatsoever... actually the bow shoots as well as the custom bow that I have. These bows were made to shoot and if they are in good shape there is no reason not to keep on shooting them.

Kevin.
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: Jake on December 15, 2007, 11:10:00 PM
The older Grayling built Bear bows are better than the new ones built this year.  IMO  Shoot a period correct string and you will be fine.  I will buy that bow from you if you can't get along.
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: mahantango on December 15, 2007, 11:35:00 PM
Don't hesitate to shoot the hell out of that thing- that's what they were made for! Hang it on the wall my ass!
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: Billy on December 16, 2007, 12:09:00 AM
I don't own a Bear but do have a
-Bob Lee Red Wing Hunter- made between 65 & 68.
I had Chad, at Champion Bowstrings (sponsor), make me a 12 strand B50 and all is grand.
My bow is 58" and 50# @ 28.
Shoots almost silent with Bow Hush and
Hush Puppies on it.
String it and shoot if it's still sound.
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: tippit on December 16, 2007, 12:28:00 AM
I shoot my ealy 50's static Kodiaks.  This bow is just a baby   :bigsmyl:  I'd shoot it...Doc
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: dragonheart on December 16, 2007, 09:47:00 PM
Guys,

C2 asked for opinions.  I agree that many of the older bows are still shooting, some very well.  I would not want the bow to be my primary on a hunt.  He may shoot the thing for 40 more years or it may break tommorrow.  That could be said for one just built today.  
Personally, I view that old of a bow as more of a collectors item than a hunting weapon.  I have had older recurves delaminated on me, and wow it was a dissapointment, especially when you get grooved in with it.  I just think there is a much higher chance of a failure with a 41 year old bow than say a 2 year old.  My comments are in no way meant to upset any of the elders on the gang. I am talking about the age of bows.  41 is young in human years, bow years well you know my opinion.  

Longbows & Short Shots,
Jeff
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: 30coupe on December 16, 2007, 10:21:00 PM
Shoot it! If it comes apart, it will die doing what it loves rather than in a nursing home just waiting to die! That's the way I want to go out, that fine old bow deserves nothing less.
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: Bjorn on December 17, 2007, 10:07:00 AM
There is absolutely no reason to believe that your '66 Kodiak is any more prone to breakage than any other bow of any age. Keep it as your primary if it works well for you, as for a string? Chad at recurves.com will produce a beautiful 12 strand Flemish for you at a reasonable price. Beaver balls, sealskin rest and you're all set!
I have been collecting Grayling Bears and shooting them in lots of hunting situations and they are as good today as they were when Fred and the gang sent them out the door back in their day.
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: DeltaBuck on December 17, 2007, 11:17:00 AM
My dad shoots a 60s Kodiak.  That thing is sweet.  Shoot it. You will not be dissapointed
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: kurtbel5 on December 17, 2007, 12:33:00 PM
Shoot it,the youngest I shoot is a 1970 KMag.
My go to Bow is '59 Kodiak, if it blows, I will still be thankful for the time we spent together,she will have helped me w/ my form and confidence because she hits where I point her and her replacement will probably be as old and shoot the same.
            Kurt
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: George D. Stout on December 17, 2007, 02:35:00 PM
I've only ever had one bow break in five decades of shooting them, and it had a crack to begin with.
It's silly to hang such a great bow on the wall; it's not really a bow unless it is used and it will probably serve you for many years...likely the rest of your years 8^).

Dacron only on that baby....14 strands is plenty.
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: C2@TheLibrary on December 17, 2007, 02:50:00 PM
I asked for soecific opinions about the finishing touches before shooting and hunting with this bow,not wether I should shoot it or not. The only bow that has every broken while I was shooting it was a brand spanking new custom longbow. It was the first longbow the bowyer had made over 70# and his design was cut too close to center for 85#.
My personal opinion was this bow is completely shootable, BowDoc completely backed that opinion up.
Can we get back on topic?
Title: Re: Opinions requested
Post by: Blackhawk on December 17, 2007, 07:17:00 PM
BowDoc shoots those old Bears himself and he can gladly let you know how he sets up his bows.  If it's good enough for him, it's got to be good.