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Title: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: links0311 on December 14, 2007, 12:46:00 PM
How does a horsebow shot in comparison to a recurve? I like the look of the horsebow, but am looking for something different than my recurve.

-Links
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: Orion on December 14, 2007, 02:00:00 PM
I've only shot one or two horsebows; they had very smooth draws, almost felt like a little let off as full draw is reached.  Didn't seem as quick as most recurves in the same weight range, but quick enough.
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: 2fletch on December 14, 2007, 10:07:00 PM
I've shot several horsebows and they seem faster then most recurves at the same weight. Most of them are very smooth to draw out to 29-30 inches or so. I have a Saluki that is fast, smooth, and surprisingly accurate for such a lightweight bow.
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: Gil on December 15, 2007, 09:36:00 AM
My Korean bow is smoother than my Samick takedown hunter recurve.
Gil
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: links0311 on December 15, 2007, 11:30:00 AM
I've checked out horsebows.com, any other places you would recommend I look?

-Links
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: Pat B on December 15, 2007, 02:06:00 PM
James Parker had one that he made when he and Saluki built bows together, at the Hickory, NC shoot last year. Using a thumb ring he shot a carbon arrow through a chrono at 260fps and a 600grain cane hunting arrow through at 185fps...this was a 50# bow.    Pat
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: ROB TAYLOR on December 15, 2007, 02:41:00 PM
Pat B,

If that's accurate...I need that man's contact info!!  That's extraordinary speed, even for a horsebow....which are generally (depending on builder) better performers than the bulk of western style bows.  

links0311,

Here's some sites to peruse:

www.atarn.org/ (http://www.atarn.org/)
www.spitfirehorsebows.com/ (http://www.spitfirehorsebows.com/)
www.horsebackarchery.com/index_eng.php (http://www.horsebackarchery.com/index_eng.php)
www.grozerarchery.com/ (http://www.grozerarchery.com/)
www.horsebows.com/ (http://www.horsebows.com/)
www.recurvebowshop.com/ (http://www.recurvebowshop.com/)
www.classic-bow.com/catalog/index.php (http://www.classic-bow.com/catalog/index.php)
www.eastern-archery.com/unitedstates.html (http://www.eastern-archery.com/unitedstates.html)
www.koreanarchery.org/ (http://www.koreanarchery.org/)

There's a few others out there, too....several in different languages if you speak.

-Rob
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: Pat B on December 15, 2007, 05:40:00 PM
Rob, James lives near Boone NC but I don't have contact info. He should be at the Hickory shoot this year or at ATAR. I wouldn't have believed the speed if I weren't there to see for myself.      Pat
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: kawika b on December 15, 2007, 05:54:00 PM
What was the draw length used for those numbers Pat?
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: ROB TAYLOR on December 15, 2007, 06:28:00 PM
Oh, I certainly believe it's possible....I just want him to build me one...LOL.
-Rob
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: Pat B on December 15, 2007, 08:28:00 PM
The draw length was pretty long; 31" or 32"...back to his ear.   Pat
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: bodkin on December 16, 2007, 12:10:00 AM
It´s not the bow that has to be accurate-but you.Horsebows shoot as well any bow, just look at that Kassai guy how shoots moving target while riding on horseback.There is some interesting fotage on you tube.
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: kawika b on December 16, 2007, 12:33:00 AM
31"-32" will get good speed out of just about any well designed bow,,, what was the weight of the arrow used to get 260fps?
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: Pat B on December 16, 2007, 11:07:00 AM
It was a light carbon arrow. I don't know the physical weight.
 The bow that James used was very short and could be pulled beyond the 32", where he shot it. I don't know the dimensions of the bow.  I'm sure the thumb ring, with its clean release, helps get the speed that was achieved. When I shot the bow I used fingers and it was obvious the arrow didn't go as fast.
  I said nothing about accuracy. Every bow is inherently accurate. Its the shooters that make a shot accurate or not.  Pat
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: ROB TAYLOR on December 16, 2007, 11:43:00 AM
Pat,
Is James still with Lukas at Saluki?  I knew Lukas moved to NC, and I also heard that he had some "assistant bowyers"...but no other details.  Can you shed any light?

I also already shoot the ring (not great, but not too bad when I pay attention to the technique) and can attest to the unbelievable crispness of this release method.

Here's a pic of my latest ring...been using clear Lexan from a scrap chunk to build these:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b70/cuffnstuff06/thumbring2/onbentthumb.jpg)
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: Pat B on December 16, 2007, 02:28:00 PM
Rob, James spent time in Ohio when Saluki was there and then Saluki moved to NC. He and James worked together for a while but I guess that didn't work out(egos) James and Becca, his wife, and their son moved somewhere near Boone NC. I have talked to them once since their move. I don't think you can call them directly.
  James was using a sterling thumb ring(his redneck bling-bling)and Lucas gave him a solid gold thumb ring. I have shot a few times with a thumb ring but felt very awkward doing so. I would like to make one and try it again.     Pat
Title: Re: Horsebow vs. Recurve Comparison
Post by: R.W. on December 16, 2007, 03:40:00 PM
I have noted, also, that when I shoot my horsebow with fingers, I don't get the speed that I see when shooting with the ring.

The ring, actually, works like a caliper release. When you get it right (the release) the speed difference is markedly different. A good, clean release really shows in speed.

If one had a longbow, with no arrow shelf, it may be possible to use a ring with that style longbow. YOu would have to shoot off the right side of the riser, though. (for a dexterous person)