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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Gordy on January 29, 2007, 04:31:00 PM
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Do any of you head back to the deer stand and call predators this time of year ? Was thinking this might be best left to rifle over clear-cuts or beaver ponds.
Sure would be a lot funner with a longbow, but not sure about techniques and all. Remote callers or hand calls best ? Some of those remote callers look a little spendy.
My deer stand is in a nice cedar with good cover out to an almost level shot. Was thinking maybe a couple crow decoys with maybe a squirrel tail on stick and call at that hillside ??
Otherwise how do you get close ? Do people use scents when calling predators or jsut decoys and calls?
Thanks for the help !
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Might give it a try just made a new coyote howler
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I have found that a turkey call (diaphram type) works very well as a predator call. Distress calls, and even 'yote howls, are not hard to do. This type of call has the advantage of leaving the hands free.
Good Luck, Pete
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I have called in coyotes and one fox with a Quaker Boy "Pro Squaller" diaphram----which also works as a young hen yelper---
never been able to make the dog and the arrow meet up though.
I was thinking I would hook up some type of clip or string loop to a squirrel tail so I could quickly attached it a twig or branch in front up wind of my stand to hold their attention long enough for a draw and release.
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Even though it's a million to one shot and Steve H and Luke "the Ursus" laugh at me, I am trying to call in a wolf or wolves here. Using longbow and/or recurve.
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Well Chris, we have tons of Timby's in northern MN too. It was a million to one, but I had one at 10 yards last deer season ... er no wait, he had ME. ;) 3 of em chased a deer right past me, one stopped right in my shooting lane.
This is the part where the treestand comes in handy, but I was kneeling on the ground when we locked eyes. :scared:
My chances on a coyote would be pretty slim too but there are good numbers of red fox running around the area. Tried drawing on one a couple years ago and found it futile. That's why the doubts with the longbow.
Will have to at least try right ? :)
thanks for the input guys. Looks like most are using mouth calls and forego the hi-tec remotes?
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I have been out a few time since deer season has been over. Lots of fun, but nothing close enough yet. I have been doing ground set ups and just screaming on a coon squaller or other critter call. I also have a coyote call that does yepls and sqeals etc. I have had a few with in 40 yards, but they always seem to be sneaking in behind me regardess of wind direction. I usually try to get in a couple hours in the morning after work. I work the night shift. The real cold days seem to be better.
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Last spring/summer I saw on two different occasions packs of 6 and 7 wolves. The 2nd pack was broad day light and I was flying in with a group of flyfishermen I was guiding. The wolves were plump after gourging on salmon in the stream we were about to fish. They were'nt in a hurry to get out of there either, slowly walking off with bellies dragging.
I also had one a few years ago pop out of the brush 10 yards from me - out of season!
I'm using a mouth call and also a fawn in distess call.
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Guys I'm going to try the yote thing with the LDB this next week. I have called some in years past and killed with a slug gun using turkey key-keys and rabbits squalls. I gotta believe that bow will be magic, and my pitiful squalls, key-keys, and howls will make them commit suicide because of the bow and not the shooter. Going to use a hen turkey decoy as well as one of my daughters stuffed animals that has been de-scented. Call me crazy, but it beats staying home!
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I guess I'll fess up. I use a cheap Cass Electronic caller with an extension speaker. Have only taken 1 yote with a stickbow. Several with the other kind of bow. A good friend and myself predator hunt a fair amount after the hunting season's are over. He uses a rifle and I usually use the other bow. Sometimes I put out crow decoy's, another item I use is a rabbit pelt (domestic-tanned) hung on some low undergrowth with a ropeline hooked to it. I give it a pull every now and then. My friend has the battery operated bunny and it works well. We usually set up on the ground such as in the brush of a fenceline or up a hillside. If the yote circles around to wind us he uses his rifle, if he looks like he is coming in I get my chance. We have also set up in brushpiles where we have pretty good vision all the way around us. Other times we split up about 50 yards from each other. While one of us does the calling the other is watching and signalling. Regardless if you have some patience it can be a hoot.
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Hunting with a trad bow and wanting to use an e-caller? That just aint right, lol.
We do lots of predator hunting here in east texas. We even hunt a few tournaments every year right after deer season. I havent tried for a yote with my bow yet but i took a very nice bobcat in october.
Yall are talking about coyote hunting out of your deer stands, thats a good place to start. However, predator hunting is pretty hit or miss, so you need to be versatile. In my experience, if nothing shows in 10 minutes, it aint gonna. You plan on getting all geared up and then only hunting 10 minutes? Me neither, so ya gotta cover some ground. Use a good mouth call...set up in enough cover to hide your draw, but also make sure you can see em comin. Call for 10 or so and if nothing shows, move to the next spot. It is recommended to move 400 yards. However you can get by with less with lots of cover.
Kyle
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Jeffer, you get you a woodpecker call yet :) They work good around here
Brent
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Going to be sub-zero temps this coming weekend so maybe we'll save the predator calling for the next weekend. :smileystooges:
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Originally posted by true_position:
Going to be sub-zero temps this coming weekend so maybe we'll save the predator calling for the next weekend. :smileystooges:
Wuss! :p
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Brent, I all ready have one, was just wondering how you used it, but we talked about that. Gonna try soon.
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Originally posted by KyleAllen:
Originally posted by true_position:
Going to be sub-zero temps this coming weekend so maybe we'll save the predator calling for the next weekend. :smileystooges:
Wuss! :p [/b]
That doesn't mean a whole lot coming from a guy from TX ! ;)
Sorta hard to get a smooth release with a pair of choppers on ya know !
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Jerry, let me know how it turns out if ya don't mind
Brent
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The high here for the next 5 days is going to be 23F. We're sposed to get a little snow tonight. Perhaps that'll get 'em on their feet looking for an easy meal. I just hope I'm not too cold and bundled to draw!
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23F would be welcome around here this weekend !
Anything under 20 makes it tough to sit still for long.
we'll see, I have plans to build a cheap cd/e-caller. might give it a shot.
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true_position, We might not get that cold (thank God) but we sure enough get the heat. Go to predatormastersforum.com and then go to their tech page. Theres a build along on an e caller.
Kyle
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Thanks :thumbsup:
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I do just that. I have a primos "raspy coaxer" call that I have had great luck with. The only suggestion that I can give you. Get to your stand as quite as possible. When you start calling, start out with very weak calls. If one is within earshot he will come in to investigate, Out of range of course. You will do better if you have something to draw attention away from yourself. A decoy that moves would be best. I use a white turkey feather tied to a limb with thread. The feather flutters in the wind and grabs the dogs attention, and if all the planets are aligned right he will put a stalk on the feather or decoy and you might get a shot. I do use cover sent also, I hose the area down with coon urine or whatever strong smelling urine I might have on hand. I called a coyote and a fox in last week using this method. If they dont respond to the gentle calling, get louder gradually. If I get one that hangs up at a good distance 100 yd or more I do what I call a frenzy call, really spaz out on the call, really panic like a rabbit caught in a noose and is getting its legs ripped off. Then all of a sudden stop and make a few real weak calls and stop calling. Usually, then they will sneek in to claim the rabbit that just died. You better be ready to shoot and pick your shot, because if they are looking anywhere in your general direction it is game over. Good luck. Coyote with a bow makes deer hunting look like childs play, but it can be done. They are hungry this time of year.
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Nice one Jimbob,do ya use a facenet?
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Head net, gloves, the works. I have started to use a 3d suit. I seem to get busted less often wearing it.