Post by: Whip on December 08, 2011, 10:02:00 AM
64's are known for being fairly plain looking, but the wood on this one really looked nice to me. It's looking like a great candidate for a refinish job.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/Jlasch/Bow%20Hospital/Lasch-64BearKodiak.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/Jlasch/Bow%20Hospital/Lasch-65.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/Jlasch/Bow%20Hospital/Lasch-67.jpg)
About the only major defect I could see upon initial inspection was that a Bear quiver attachment had been added at some point. I could live with that.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/Jlasch/Bow%20Hospital/Lasch-68.jpg)
Post by: Whip on December 08, 2011, 10:07:00 AM
Lower limb.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/Jlasch/Bow%20Hospital/Lasch-71.jpg)
I've dabbled in a fair number of old bows during the past couple of years. Nothing like some of you, but this is a first for me personally. How disappointing! Not only is some good money down the toilet, a real cool old Bear bites the dust....
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Post by: Scott Teaschner on December 08, 2011, 10:21:00 AM
Post by: vintage-bears on December 08, 2011, 10:35:00 AM
How was the bow described in it's description?
Was it said......have not strung it, or don't know if shootable?
Curious. :confused:
That's a painful photo........I'm sorry to see that happen to you or anyone.
........Philip
Post by: Whip on December 08, 2011, 10:54:00 AM
You are looking at a vintage Bear Kodiak Glass Powered Recurve. It is 60 inches long and has a pull of 45#.The bow has several small dings from years of use and a residue that appears to be from a tape on quiver. Above and below the riser are small cracks that run length wise with the limbs, about 4 inches long each. Think they are in the clear coat only. Limbs appear to be straight. No string. U.S. shipments only please.
The cracks they talk about are the standard vertical ones seen in so many old Bears, and not very bad actually. So while they didn't state that they hadn't strung it or know whether it was shootable, the fact that it didn't have a string kind of told me there was some risk in this deal. Can't say I didn't think about that, but just couldn't look away from this one. If it had stayed together I think I would have had a good deal. You just never know....
Post by: 59Alaskan on December 08, 2011, 10:59:00 AM
That is upsetting. Perhaps heat exposure at some point?
Post by: OldSkoolArcher on December 08, 2011, 11:12:00 AM
I guess that is the risk we take with buying from folks on the 'bay who really don't know anything about the items they are selling.
I am glad you didn't get hurt!
Post by: Larry m on December 08, 2011, 12:37:00 PM
Post by: Bjorn on December 08, 2011, 12:55:00 PM
Post by: doug77 on December 08, 2011, 01:01:00 PM
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Post by: Steve95 on December 08, 2011, 01:48:00 PM
Post by: Whip on December 08, 2011, 01:51:00 PM
Of course if I were buying it in person I would have strung it up and checked the limbs, but we don't have that luxury when bidding online. I noticed the limb twist right away before even getting to full draw, but that's not all that unusual, so wasn't overly concerned until I heard that terrible noise. Ouch!!
Post by: vintage-bears on December 08, 2011, 02:40:00 PM
Unless the bow is listed as;
Unshootable, wallhanger or unwilling to do it.
If the seller states they have no string or ability to string, BUY AT OUR OWN RISK.
I will purchase this way from now on.
Sorry again Whip, I feel for you brother......Philip
Post by: reddogge on December 08, 2011, 02:54:00 PM
I lost two classics due to delams and limb breakage and the sellers were friends of mine. Just bad luck they went when I owned them.
Post by: Big Bird on December 08, 2011, 03:43:00 PM
Post by: copicasso on December 08, 2011, 05:04:00 PM
Post by: PaPaFrank on December 08, 2011, 06:47:00 PM
Post by: Orion on December 08, 2011, 07:34:00 PM
Post by: Jack Shanks on December 08, 2011, 07:47:00 PM
That is a crying shame! It is bound to happen once in a great while though. I have only had one blow up so far and that was after I had shot a hundred arrows or so through it.
Post by: raghorn on December 08, 2011, 07:53:00 PM
Post by: RLA on December 08, 2011, 09:44:00 PM
Post by: Whip on December 08, 2011, 10:15:00 PM
I've never attempted one. Might it hold together if it were reglued? Based on things I have read, maybe it would. I don't really know. But you can bet it would be in the back of my mind every time I drew it.
Plus, putting the time and effort into a repair is just investing more in a bow that has a dubious future. I'm limited on how many bows I can do each year. I guess I figure I'm better off spending my time doing a customers bow so that I can make more money so that I can jump on the next big deal I can't walk away from! ;)
Post by: 59Alaskan on December 09, 2011, 07:56:00 AM
My observation has been that instances like Whip's, while dangerous, are rare. I don't think there are statistics on this, but I have noticed this happens a little more with older bows. By this I mean I have noticed it happens with newer bows with some level of frequency as well.
I have been very fortunate and have not experienced anything like this yet. I have thousands of shots that I have taken in a few 50+ year old Bears with no issue.
Post by: d. ward on December 09, 2011, 08:19:00 AM
Post by: 2treks on December 09, 2011, 09:25:00 AM
You and I have talked before about fixing that type of thing. I will quote a notorious fixer of most things related to the real archery sports world,.."JUST DON"T DO IT" I love you too man.
Now you have to go through all that hard work of rooting out another vintage,curvasious thing of beauty.(I am talking bows here people)
Good luck man.
CTT
Post by: Larry m on December 10, 2011, 03:15:00 PM
Post by: stagetek on December 10, 2011, 06:09:00 PM