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Title: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: sticshooter on December 02, 2010, 03:12:00 PM
Just got this bow. It is in great cond and shoots very well. Does anyone have a idea what year it is? bow is 45#28"-62" not sure what the woods arebut love the site window.<><
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Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: C Kerley on December 02, 2010, 03:45:00 PM
I don't know, but I'm gonna ask a question with it...are these bows tied to Howard Gamemaster's?
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: Jack Shanks on December 02, 2010, 04:05:00 PM
I don't know the year but you can probably date it pretty close here.

 http://www.archeryarchives.com/public2_html/roottable.html
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: wadde on December 02, 2010, 04:38:00 PM
Looks like a 1966 Gamemaster, I believe the only year they had that type of woodwork in the sight window.
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: sticshooter on December 02, 2010, 04:49:00 PM
Thanks guys looks like a 66. wow this bow is in really nice shape.<><
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: reddogge on December 03, 2010, 09:03:00 AM
I believe '66 is pretty close.  I have one also in 50#.  Nice shooting bow.  I had a 50#er back in 1970 too.  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/reddogge/Archery/IMG_1225.jpg)
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Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: sticshooter on December 03, 2010, 04:53:00 PM
Yeah I erally like tis bow alot.great to shoot other vintage bows then  bears<><
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: AALLFAB on December 03, 2010, 07:38:00 PM
My guess would have been 1965. I also have a few of these bows and the 55# and 50# I have are nearly unrivaled in shooting characteristics. Just got the 38# and have not shot it but I would bet money it is out of and above its class. Jim
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: sticshooter on December 04, 2010, 06:25:00 PM
what the differance between the 65 and the 66?<><
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: reddogge on December 04, 2010, 06:42:00 PM
By the way mine has brown glass and appears to have a matte finish and appears to be original finsh with no evidence of refinishing.  The one I owned in 1970 had green glass and shiney finish.
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: shaft slinger on December 04, 2010, 07:12:00 PM
Stick, get a hold of Jason Westbrook he knows a lot about that bow   :archer:
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: wadde on December 04, 2010, 10:38:00 PM
1966 was the only year that woodwork was in the riser.
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: stickbowhntr on December 04, 2010, 10:46:00 PM
never realized there were so many roots. I esp enjoyed the catalogs link.
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: PASSTHRU2 on December 06, 2010, 06:11:00 PM
Beautiful bows.  Very unique look.  May have to get one!  How close is the shelf to your hand?
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: reddogge on December 06, 2010, 11:32:00 PM
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Originally posted by PASSTHRU2:
Beautiful bows.  Very unique look.  May have to get one!  How close is the shelf to your hand?
About like a 60s Bear Kodiak.  Mine came with a flipper rest and although I don't shoot these I left it on and it shoots well with it.
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: Kelly on December 07, 2010, 10:17:00 AM
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Originally posted by C Kerley:
I don't know, but I'm gonna ask a question with it...are these bows tied to Howard Gamemaster's?
No, not tied to Jack Howard in any way, except the model name. Don't know which company used the Gamemaster name first. Root was eventually sold to Shakespeare.
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on December 15, 2010, 07:41:00 PM
Ernie Root was using "Game-master" in the 50s. I'm not sure when Jack Howard started making his Gamemasters.
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: sticshooter on December 19, 2010, 08:17:00 PM
tHANKS gYS. i DONT KNOW WHY THSE BOWS ARE NOT
HOT LIKE SOME OTHERS. THE ONE i HAVE IS AWESOME AND SHOOTS GREAT.<><
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: SlowBowke on April 23, 2011, 09:09:00 AM
Almost started a new thread but found this one and thought I would bring it back to top with some others.

Some, Im sure saw the first one recently listed in the auction but maybe not the second one.

Both are Ernie Root Game Master bows. First one 64 inch and 54lbs, the second, clearly marked 63 inch and 47lbs.

Noticable to me is the difference in window width and the tip overlays (but the one photo isnt real clear on that) and the green back and white belly on the 63 inch narrower risered bow and green on both sides on the 64 incher.

The specs on the 63 inch are on the back of the riser yet obviously not in the same location on the 64 inch, yet I didnt see or read where exactly it had this info on the bow.

Also, the 64 inch bow has decals of "Root" and "Game Master". The 63 inch has (I stand corrected. I miss understood the seller it seems) has it seemingly hand written on the bow under the finish not a sticker.

If anyone has more info on dating the changes here I would be most grateful. Without a doubt the 63 inch bow is "older" yet I can only guess the 64 inch to be late 50s and the 63 inch an early 50s? Opinions?

BTW.......the 63 incher is going hunting come October here in IN.

God Bless

This is the 64 inch 54lb bow

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Here is the 63 incher, 47lbs.

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Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: reddogge on April 23, 2011, 10:03:00 AM
I was shooting mine this week after a long period when I hadn't shot it and it is a fabulous shooter. I mentioned it came with a flipper rest and is probably one of the quietest bows I own and is not even silenced. These do not get much attention but they are performers.
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: SlowBowke on April 23, 2011, 10:27:00 AM
True, Reddogge.

Not to lower the center stage light on Pappa Bear bows in any way but there are a few from the past that do not get the recognition deserved, IMHO.

"Something different than others have" has been my curse or blessing, however one wishes to view it.

From Pappa Bear, my 59 Alaskan with double shelf and coin...it falls into the catagory somewhat and stays within my means. My "Fawn Hunting" whatever it is 50s style recurve in 55lbs is another. I was amazed to see yet another identical to it on the auction lately in 50lbs. The history of such yet escapes me.

The TRUE "RARE" Bear bows will never be within my reality of something I can afford to shoot never-the-less I find some of the older bows of "others" well deserving of my attention and love of hunting with them.

Harry Drake, Ernie Root and many others contributed some fine if not outstanding things to traditional archery.

I had the Shakepeare version of the Root Game Master, a pair of them actually before I succumbed to the "need" to shoot only those of leather gripped original versions.

They might not be much of interest to a great many but I will be honored and quite proud to hunt with this old 63 inch Ernie Root contibution and only hope I do it justice out amongst em..........where it belongs.

God Bless
Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: Hobow on September 20, 2011, 03:33:00 AM
Hi SlowBowke,

I believe that your Root Game Master bows are both early to mid 50's models.  The first bow is a Root Game Master Deluxe and the second bow is a standard Game Master.  

They are both pretty much the same up to the extra laminations which are a feature of the Deluxe model.  According to their ad by Seattle Archery, "All Root recurves are available in the Deluxe model at $67.50.  The Deluxe, overdraw type, center section is shown here."  

The January 1957 ad shows exposed, multiple laminations on the belly of the bow.  I am guessing that your bows are a little earlier since the lams are covered by glass.  

It seems to me that they would expose the laminations later on as bows became fancier. As for the tips, if the customer is paying extra for belly laminations then why not add extra lams on the tips as well.  

Just my thoughts, I hope that it helps,

Brad

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Title: Re: ROOT GAME MASTER
Post by: Bernie B. on September 24, 2011, 10:51:00 AM
Very nice looking bow!  It's great seeing the old literture and hearing about some of the old bowyers!

Bernie Bjorklund

NC Iowa/SW Wisconsin