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Main Boards => Trad History/Collecting => Topic started by: cacciatore on October 18, 2010, 05:20:00 PM
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Last year I found some new in the box green tip limbs,the boxes were dated 1982-83. 3 sets of 65# and 1 of 60#.This morning I decided to brake the nylon wrap,original and give them a test.I am trying to increase my drawing weight for improve my shooting in the winter with my regular weight bows.I put the 65#limbs on a A riser so I guess it is around 70#,plus I draw something like 29" and this must be for a 73-74#.Well the first thing i noticed is that those first edition limbs are much slender than the more common later green tip limbs and the tips themselves are much smaller and rounded,very similar to the first 70s white tips.The draw curve look to be much smoother than the other GTs and they look to be faster too.I had no esitation to strung the bow with a skinny D97 string,since it is what I use since the beginning of the year on my older limbs.So far so good.I'll post some pics soon.
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Nice find my friend, looking forward to pics and report. By the way,LOL, if you ever want to get rid of that 60# set you know where to send them :bigsmyl: :pray:
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Danny,I have several sets of 60#ers,but I figured you have sold your Type1.
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Yeah, I sold the A riser but am looking for another or a B riser. Got my eyes on a green stripe B riser right now.
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They are the best deal on the market,very misunderstood bows.
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(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/dazzafelix/DSCN0420.jpg)
This Green Stripe is been my hunting companion during my 2010 elk season.
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(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/dazzafelix/DSCN0409.jpg)
It was signed for me by Glenn St.Charles in Denver for the 2009 P&Y convention.So I really wanted to take her hunting.
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those are pretty roseaoks felix!1
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(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/dazzafelix/DSCN0483.jpg)
Here she is on her hunting suit
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(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/dazzafelix/DSCN0469.jpg)
She is been on Grand Mesa,but we found only bones,too hot and dry.
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(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/dazzafelix/DSCN0470.jpg)
This is a better view of my camo job on her.
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Always enjoy your pics Felix.
I like my green tips very much also. I have a 60# set and they shoot like a dream.
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Anybody knows if Bear made limbs heavier than 70#?
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i don't know Felix, but would like a heavy pair ( one heavy limb doesn't work very well!!)
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Felix, Looked through my "catalogs" and only saw up to 70# limbs available. Never know though...
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1287536131.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1287536131.jpg)
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I just saw a very nice green stripe for sale somewhere hummmmmmmmmm now where was that thing listed bd
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I am watching it Don,LOL.
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can someone explain the difference between Type 1,2,&3 rizers, please?
I recently got a B mag. rizer/43# & would like some heavier limbs, but some of the ads mention "fits Type 1 rizers best" or similar.
I was under the impression that they were all the same. Are there slight differences I need to be aware of?
Thanks, ronvdv
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I think I need to clarify my questions in the last post...
Does Type 1,2,& 3 mean the same as A,B,& C rizers?
Is the terminology the same for wood & mag. rizers?
I've also heard of Type 1,2,& 3 limbs which I gather refers to length.
Also, are modern limbs compatible with older rizers?
Will Bearcat limbs fit these rizers?
The real question is whether everything is really interchangeable or do certain combinations not work?
Should I be asking in a different forum?
Thanks in advance for any answers...ronvdv
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Ben- Numbers were used to designate limb lengths with no. 1 being the shortes and 3 being longest. A,B, and C were used to indicate riser lengt with A being shortest- A riser + #1 limbs equals 56" bow. The A and B risers have a four inch varience. Style I indicates the first marketed design of the riser and features a flared heel, a raised finger pad, and more bulk overall. The StyleII is a slimmer design with a tapered heel, usually a built in springsteel pressure plate (other options were available)a lower shelf, and a concave area on the offside where the raised finger pad was on the styleI and which created the "S" shaped handle. The mag riser is more similar to the style II except that it lacks the dramatic S curve of the handle/grip section. The Style I was in production from '69 through '70 and the StyleII was introduced in '71. There are other minute differences and a wide array of varieations plus Bear's custom shop created several "one-of-a-kinds", especially in the C riser target bows. The locator pin head size changed at time and varied between .050 and .060 head diameter but I've never seen fitting issues between Bear products with the exception of the Signature series limbs in which some of the limb locator pin holes were so shallow that the limb wedges split out when the bow was shot. I personally saw this happen with four sets of limbs in the early 80's. Some limb/riser combos may fit more tightly than others and some may rattle a bit when the bow is unstrung, however, once tension is introduced by stringing the bow it becomes a non-issue. Did I answer any of your questions? Good luck, Grant
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(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/dazzafelix/DSCN0524.jpg)
This is what i was talking about for the ones that can see the differences.These first edition green tips are really as slender as the 69-70 white tips,they look very different from the later ones and are better than the red tips I have seen too.What do the old timers much more experienced think about that...Don?
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Felix- Don is considerably more of an "old-timer than I am but I agree. I haven't shot many redtips that impressed me as much as I wanted them to. Love the white tipped first run limbs though. GY
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"Anybody knows if Bear made limbs heavier than 70#?"
I had a set of 75# White tips years ago. Heaviest I have ever see personally.
I think I remember hearing of some 80 & 90 # limbs.
I am pretty sure that I read where Papa Bear used a 90# bow on some of his ultra big game, but I don't remember if that was with a takedown or a one piece bow.
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Thanks, Grant, you cleared up several things for me.
One thing...so green tips come in all three lengths & are most desirable; and the same with red tips ,but these are least desirable? (not the first time I've heard that)
Thanks again
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Green tips were made ONLY in #1,they are way to be the most desiderable,but these ones looks to be very close to the first run white tips,the really more desiderable.Red tips are considered fair.
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Heaviest set of limbs(also heaviest weight bow I've ever hunted with) I've prsonally seen were 82# on my speckeled(came from factory that way)B Mag riser. Killed a bear in Wyoming about 1977/78, if my memory is correct. Pretty sure they were #3 limbs but what their actual weight marked I don't remember-could have been 82# or maybe that is what they were at my draw, which was 30" then. Either way they were over 70#.
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Thanks cacciatore
Dang! I'm glad I found a site that I can actually get quick answers from people who KNOW.
I wonder how many years of accumulated knowledge this membership has...I'll bet it's staggering...
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Ben,if you make some searches here,you'll find really a lot of knowledge.
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thanks,Cacciatore,
I'm sure your right about searches. So far I've mostly been browsing all the old posts, asking a few questions here & there.
The first week I found this site I was glued to it night & day 'til I had covered a few dozen of the most interesting threads(like BowDoc's "Repair 101")
This site is the closest thing I've seen to a bow encyclopedia(or whole library), which is what I need 'cuz I'm just kinda startin' with tradgear & have LOTS of questions from time to time.
But what really makes the site is the people, who are so helpful to us new guys.
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Felix,
I am not surprised that you found limbs with a different profile, Bear produced a lot of different limbs, I had a set of 65# limbs that were much narrower on an early Green Stripe. They were quite smooth drawing, but I did not notice more speed than a set of 66# limbs from Grayling.
The Bear flyer, shows a C and B riser, and the B looks different than the Type 1 riser. The handle is similar to the Green Stripe, is this a Type II?
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The early green tips I believe were built to the same specs as the originals.However somewhere around the mid 80's they shorted the limb tip lessining the recurve at the end of the limbs.But I would like to mention I also have a set of green tips that are some super good shooters bd
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Ditto, Bowdaddy. GY
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Thanks Don, the green tips that I had did have less recurve and were narrower; just did not remember the year they were bought. Sold the bow and limbs.