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Main Boards => Trad History/Collecting => Topic started by: joevan125 on September 04, 2009, 03:57:00 PM
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I just bought a 64 kodiak and im not sure if i have ever seen one. The guy i bought it from cant send pictures but i have bought from him before. I would just like to see what im getting. I would also like to thank everbody for all the help since i started collecting, it has been a blast.
Thanks
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http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=14;t=002562 I don't own one currently but this is a link to a recent thread that should give you plenty of info. Great shooting bows, Joe. Congratulations. Grant
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I didnt even think about looking for a thread, duh. Thanks Grant.
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:thumbsup:
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Joe
The '64 Kodiak is arguably the best shooting hunting bow that Bear ever made. There are othrs that feel that this title goes to the '59 Kodiak.
The '64 has very simplistic lines but it is a classic and a beauty.
I call them the "Thunkers", and you will find out why. They characteristically have a distinctive "thunk" when shot.
A very solid shooting bow, and one of my all time favorites.
You will love it.
What draw weight did you get?
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47#
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Joe,
Maybe this will help. Here's a spread of Bear Super Kodiaks and Kodiaks. From left to right: 1969, 1968 and 1967-1/2 Super Kodiaks, followed by 1966, 1965, 1964 and a 1963 Kodiaks.
The 1964, as you can see, was the plainest of all the Kodiaks, although a fair shooter.
Bill Krenz
Colorado
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/TimberlineX/Kodiaks1969to1963.jpg)
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Can't blame you for bragging, Bill. Very classy lineup. :clapper: :clapper:
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Yea i have heard the 64 is a great shooting bow. I guess i will find out next week. :thumbsup:
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Joe - It is hard to find a 64 Kodiak with really nice wood. I've seen a couple but never managed to snag one.
Jim - I would take one of my 1960 Kodiaks over a 1964 any day. Everybody has their preferences and favorites for various reasons.
Bill - Very impressive line up. The contrast is stunning. Fred's signature really stands out on that 66. Your 63 looks like it really has some wonderfully contrasting grain.
I rounded up the usual suspects, this mug shot includes a couple of 1964 Kodiaks...
1966-64", 1966-60", 1965, 1964-60/40, 1964-Solid, 1963, 1962
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/WadePhillips/c1e6a45a.jpg)
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:thumbsup:
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Bill,
Great collection you have there...finally a bow from my birth year, the '66, that's really purty!
Now to figure out how to pry it from your grasp :notworthy:
And I must say, in Jim's hands that '64 is definitely a shooter.
Bernie
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Opinions vary widely on which of the Kodiaks and Super Kodiaks shoot best. I'll not argue with anyone who has selected a favorite, as they all mostly shoot very well.
All of my Kodiaks and Super Kodiaks from 1960 through 1969 are shooters and I do regularly shoot them all, often all layed out at one time and going head to head. In my hands, the slightly heavier mass weight 1965 through 1969 bows feel and shoot the best FOR ME. Your mileage may certainly vary.
Here's how I view the 1960 through 1969 Kodiaks and Super Kodiaks.
As much as I want to absolutely love the 1959/60 through 1962 Kodiaks, I have to admit that I shoot bows with a bit more mass weight a little bit better. The 1963 Kodiaks are indeed cool and mine shoots very well. The 1964 Kodiak I personally find to be very smooth-drawing and quite fast, although just maybe a tiny bit whippy and critical. And I have to honestly admit that I am, right or wrong, probably prejudiced against the 1964 because it looks so darn bland and unexciting to me when compared with the other Kodiaks, even the earlier ones.
I do really like the 1965 and 1966 Kodiaks. They are beautiful bows that shoot very well. However, I clearly shoot the slightly heavier mass weight 1967-1/2, 1968 and 1969 Super Kodiaks the best of all - smooth, reasonably fast, very little handshock, super quiet and wonderfully accurate. They simply shoot the best in MY hands.
Sometimes, I want to be as classic as possible, and in those situations I shoot, hunt with and really love my 1960 Kodiaks. To my eyes no Kodiak model looks more classic. I just love the way the 1959/1960 Kodiaks look.
At other times, though, I find a 1966 Kodiak perfect and especially classy. Other than the Hi-Compression Super Kodiaks, I think that the 1966 Kodiak is the cream of the Kodiak crop. To me it's the King Kodiak, the last Kodiak, the culmination of all those Kodiak years.
But I can't deny that my 1967-1/2 Super Kodiaks are my all time, non-TD shooting favorites. They're very racy and, well, just super shooters FOR ME.
That's how I see it. And please, I did not mean to put anyone's personal favorite down. My only goal with this post was simply to explain what I see and feel when I shoot all of these bow models head to head. They are all wonderful, and I'm very thankful that I've had the opportunity to get to know each and every one of them.
Bill Krenz
Colorado
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Congrats, you are gonna love that bow! :thumbsup:
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Bill
No harm no foul my friend, i also just recieved a 66 kodiak and i have to agree with you on there beauty and stability. So far i have 20 bear bows and i shoot my 69 64in super kodiak better than all my other bear bows. The first Bear bow that i bought was a 67 kodiak hunter and even though there not the most sought after bows i have 6 of them and love every one of them, go figure.
Later
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I agree that the '64 is a sweet quiet shooter. I also agree that it is tough to find one that is "stunning". They tend to be a little bland. Because it is such a great shooter and quiet that I want to hunt with it, coupled with the blandness-
I went with this one.
Perfect to hunt with...
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f255/migrabill/bows/64Kodiak.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f255/migrabill/bows/64Kodiak2.jpg)
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Bill
Any chance i could talk you out of that one. :bigsmyl:
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No way - not this one.
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Hey Joe,
Here's a few pictures of one of my 55# 64 Kodiak (I have a 45# too). Sorry for the poor quality of pictures - took them quickly before leaving work.
I really like alot of things about the 64's - mainly their stability of shooting for me. But I will say that this 55# bow really zips an arrow. My son has a 55# 1980's B-Riser Custom Kodiak in perfect shape (used to be mine - now his this year for his birthday) and this particular 64 shoots distinctly quicker.
Terry
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm3/longbow007/64Kodiak55RiserShelf2.jpg)
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm3/longbow007/64Kodiak55RiserOffside-1.jpg)
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm3/longbow007/64Kodiak55Strung.jpg)
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To each his own. To me, phenolic is as bland as formica, bakelite, or other plastics. I just don't get it.
The solid one piece chunk of bubinga used in the 64s really doesn't need the racing stripes that began in 65 - it zips the arrows a tad faster then its gaudy younger brothers.
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TonyW,
I have a good hunting buddy who feels exactly the same way. He MUCH prefers the rich, warm look and feel of good solid wood, and tells me so frequently. I tend to lean toward racier combinations and am drawn to multiple riser laminations and phenolic.
Both of us just love bows.
Bill
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Here's mine.60",55# with factory quiver bushing.
Terry-It looks like the mate to yours.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/MVC-001S.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/MVC-001S1.jpg)
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Now I have time and as soon as I put my strike plate and rest on I'll be able to compare. I don't have a '60 but do have a '62.
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now thats a 1964 Kodiak.bd (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/64003-4.jpg)
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I like the '64 too, but put a few others at the top of the list.
In front would be the 1959-1963 models. As to the best in looks and performance...well, I have a tie between the '60 and '62.
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Well I just put a bunch of arrows through mine for the first time. My impression is it is a nice handling hard hitting bow, light in weight, small grip which fits my hand perfectly, accurate and stable. But the problem is I find all of the Kodiaks like that so I have hard time picking favorites. My impression is my '62 shoots the fastest and is very accurate in my hands but it's a 50# vs a 45# '64. But I need more time to compare.
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You did a fine job, that bow shines.
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Joe, here's my '64 Kodiak that I refinished awhile back with the help of Bowdoc's "Restoration 101" thread. I bought new decals from Al Harford.
Good luck and Happy Holidays, Bob
(http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/64kodiak/Archery029.jpg)
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Sorry about the double post....guess I was having one of those "Senior Moments"!
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Bob, you did good. That is a sweet looking bow.
Shick
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Very nice job on that one. What finish did you use?
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good job. :thumbsup:
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Thanks. Overall, I used 12 coats of Minwax wipe-on poly...put on 3 light coats then wet sanded. Did this 4x.