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Title: KME sharpener
Post by: GregD on December 07, 2007, 07:26:00 PM
Are you guys using these on new broadheads right out of the box or starting with some other method first? If you are using it on new heads how long does it take you to get a head sharp? Thanks  Greg
Title: Re: KME sharpener
Post by: ber643 on December 07, 2007, 09:02:00 PM
Just got mine in the mail today - so I can't answer your question - yet - but wanted to say, it sure looks good, and I'll get to try it out soon. First on ones in use mostly.
Title: Re: KME sharpener
Post by: Dave2old on December 08, 2007, 10:31:00 AM
On decently factory presharpened heads, go right to a stone with the KME. For Grizzlies and other essentially unsharpened heads, use the KME but you'll need a more aggressive surface than a stone to set the initial angle. Sharpster recommends gluing a strip of fairly gritty wet-dry to a glass surface. If you had a really wide mill-bastard file, you could even use the KME with that. Be sure to watch the MKE sharpening video first, available as a link from their website.
Title: Re: KME sharpener
Post by: Bill Carlsen on December 08, 2007, 07:22:00 PM
I got one of the round wheel sharpeners from Simmons. I get a hollow grind rough edge on the Phantoms with it and then go to the KME....works really well.
Title: Re: KME sharpener
Post by: GregD on December 08, 2007, 10:15:00 PM
Dave, What do you mean by factory presharpened? I have tried zwickeys,magnus and grizzlies and haven't come close to sharpening any of them. I have a two bladed zwickey in the sharpener and I probably have spent two hours on the first side and it's about as sharp as the back of a butter knife. it was sharper out of the box. I tried the wet dry on the grizzlies and it was disappointing at best. How long is it taking you to sharpen a head?  Greg
Title: Re: KME sharpener
Post by: The Night Stalker on December 08, 2007, 10:53:00 PM
Greg, Your doing something wrong. Like Dave said, watch the video. I Have sharpend magnus and stos. In a couple of minutes, they are sharp enough to shave hair. I bought a double arkansas stone to use with mine.
Title: Re: KME sharpener
Post by: Sharpster on December 08, 2007, 11:00:00 PM
Greg,
If your having problems, get the sharpener and stone and broadheads out and give me a call one evening this week. We'll get them sharp in no time.

-Sharps
Title: Re: KME sharpener
Post by: ber643 on December 09, 2007, 08:08:00 AM
I'm (always have been) sharpening challenged so you can bet I'm gonna call Ron if I can't get it right. I may call him anyway - he's a pleasure to talk to/with -   :campfire:    :jumper:
Title: Re: KME sharpener
Post by: Lin Rhea on December 09, 2007, 08:35:00 AM
I have not used the Broadhead sharpener, YET. But have used the knife sharpener and find it to be a quality piece of equipment. Sharpening knives is part of my business. I usually perform this by feel and eye and still will. But, when I absolutely have to get the angle right, such as sharpening a several hundred dollar damascus, I will use the KME. This will keep me from damaging the etched finish.
    If the BH sharpener does as good as the Knife Sharpener, it's a good one.
                                Lin
Title: Re: KME sharpener
Post by: ber643 on December 09, 2007, 01:42:00 PM
I  really  have a lot of confidence in it, after talking to Ron when ordering it.
Title: Re: KME sharpener
Post by: GregD on December 09, 2007, 02:11:00 PM
Bernie, Stop fooling around and put a new broadhead in it and tell me how to do it. I am going to call Ron tomorrow night but I'd love to know what I'm doing wrong today.   Greg
Title: Re: KME sharpener
Post by: owlbait on December 09, 2007, 05:37:00 PM
Speaking of Simmons, will the KME work on those big Treesharks?
Title: Re: KME sharpener
Post by: lodestar on December 09, 2007, 07:56:00 PM
Hey Sharpster, I was wondering if you can sharpen while the broadhead is on the shaft. Also was wondering if I could drive on over there one day and pick one up from you in person, I live about a mile from your place. Would be nice to meet fellow local Trad Ganger.Thanks Jason
Title: Re: KME sharpener
Post by: Sharpster on December 09, 2007, 09:21:00 PM
Sorry Guys,
We were working at the shop today so I'm late repsonding.

I just talked to Greg on the phone. So that's one answered.

Owlbait, I didn't see any mention of Simmons broadheads on the thread...  :D  
The answer to that is yes, and no. The best way to sharpen an inside curve is with a round rod, slip stone, or steel.

A big flat stone just can't line up with the concave blade shape. If you turn the sharpener upside-down so that the roller is up, you can rest the steel on the roller and blade and sharpen any inside curve. You just need to work the system backwards: Move the steel not the sharpener.

This same technique works with straight blades too and is a great time saver on tuff to sharpen broadheads like the grizzlys. You can use a file to quickly work the factory bevel down, then go to the stones as usual.

Jason, Howdy Neighbor!
Yes you can sharpen broadheads that are mounted but, it's a good idea to presharpen them first because 30 inches of shaft moving back and forth with the sharpener will require a pretty big work area! For touch ups on the shaft, I would suggest the upside down method. You could even do it on a stump in the field. Give me a call. I don't get to do in person demos very often and always enjoy meeting a fellow Tradganger!

-Ron