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Main Boards => Trad History/Collecting => Topic started by: wadde on August 15, 2009, 10:07:00 PM
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Just a heads up for you vintage boe collectors. I was checking the draw weight on a vintage recurve this evening with a hand held bow scale. Done this a hundred times before. At 28 inches of draw and 63 pounds the bow exploded. It sounded like a gun went off. I have had old bows explode before but usually when I was stringing them. Anyhow, the lower limb took out my left wrist with a deep gash and proceeded to smack me on the right side of my face. It happened in an instant. Missed my right eye by an inch. In the future I will wear safety glasses when I do this. It only takes one time to cause major damage to your person. Thought I would share this so nobody else has an incident. The bow looked good with no obvious stress and I was as shocked as my wife when it exploded. She ran downstairs to see what happened. Take care with these vintage bows guys.
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That does scare the crap out of ya for sure. Same thing happened to me a couple years ago. Drew back a 1957 Kodiak for the first time and BLAM-O!
Glad you are okay.
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wadde..glad you are ok. Thanks for the heads up.
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Glad you're okay Steve.
Was that the first time you drew that particular bow?
Scarry stuff.
Trap
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I have seen an old magnesium A-handle blow up on a friend with the same sound.A loud "BANG",parts and limbs flying all over and a nice,deep gash on his forehead from a limb.
I was injured several years ago myself,not by a bow blowing up but by having my hand slip off of the upper limb while unstringing it.It was a Grayling wooden A-riser.It gave me a whole new respect for the amount of power and damage one of these "old" bows can inflict.There is a tremendous amount of stored energy in those limbs when strung and when something goes wrong,you had better hope your not on the receiving end.Wish I had safety glasses on that day,darn near took my eye out.Glad you're alright.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/eyeday2close-up.jpg)
By the way,this photo was taken the day after my accident,after the swelling went down.
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Ouch, that is not purty at all. Glad you both did not get hurt worse.
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Hormoan- I know it's not a pretty picture but I try to post it whenever the subject comes up.If it grosses people out,all the better.I feel it's worth the shock value if it prevents even one person from having an accident like mine that could have been prevented and could turn out much worse.I now only use a stringer when stringing or unstringing my bow.I know alot of guys still use the old push-pull method and may never have an accident but it only happened once to me and I won't let it happen again.I may not be so lucky next time and I like having two eyes,looking out of one was not fun.
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:scared: Dang, that's as dangerous as those Red Ryder BB guns. :eek:
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I did the same thing using the push and pull method. I ended up with a cracked cheek bone and wore the bruised image of the limb for two weeks.
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Ouch John!!!!!
I've been told by the local archers around here that a member of the local club was killed in the late 70s while using the push and pull method. Apparently the upper limb tip penetrated his skull resulting in death.
Watched quite a few magnesium riser compounds blow up in the 80s. Usually they'd shear off right above the grip.
Use a stringer.
Trap
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god that is funny.Yeah I know you all think I'am one twisted dude laughing at poor Johnnyboy getting one hell of a shinner huh ? Sure I'am laughing because Johnnyboy knows what bow stringers are for ? bow stringers are for not poking you friggen eye ball out huh John ? Tell the truth you know you screwed up there huh ? bow stringers are good.
last summer I had a bow blow and bouts knocked the crap out of me.But that can happen sometimes and like John said theres are lot of energy stored in those limbs.bd
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and then.bd (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/brokenbows005.jpg) (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/brokenbows001.jpg) (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/brokenbows002.jpg) (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/brokenbows004.jpg) (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/brokenbows006.jpg)
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All of them bows in the pics are broken some of those bows were damaged in other ways.However some did blow during shooting.Like that 1962 52# blew the botton limb.Those Tamerlanes both blew up during a flite shoot.bd
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Hey Bowdoc,Thanks for laughing at my mishap.You sure know how to make a guy feel good about screwing up,and yes I do know what a bowstringer is for I just make sure and use one now.
Mullett-You know exactly what I'm talkin' about then.I ended up fracturing my orbital(eye socket) as well.Not something to be taken lightly.
Trap-I wouldn't doubt that a guy got killed by a bow in this manner.When this subject came up years ago when I first had my accident,I heard all kinds of horror stories worse than mine.Guys getting knocked out cold,jaws broken,eyes gone,cracked skulls,you name it.If something so simple as a bowstringer can help prevent this it's worth it.I think in my case safety glasses might have helped but probably not a few of the others that have been mentioned.
Respect the bow grasshopper.
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Now, somebody tell me how to string my new '55, 68" KS with a stringer. The curves are so deep, it took me and my wife to drop the string in the groove with a stringer.
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For thin tips where the stringer pocket covers up the nock groove, I stuff a foam earplug in the pocket. It raises the pocket enough to slide the string loop on easier.
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Stringers are the way to go, but make sure you check the stringer before you use it. I had one break on me while stringing an old 50# Pearson Colt, and the limb kicked up and hit the bridge of my right eye with the tip. Hurt like all get-out, and gave me a nice shiner to explain!
RonP
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Mullet
My wife shoots a 55 kodiak special, no problem using a stringer. I have had to make a stringers for some of my funkier longbows. What I did was use a pice of cargo strapping about 1 foot longer than the bow. Then I sewed a pocket in each end so it would slip over the tips but not the string groove. I sent the stringers out with the bows they were made for. Never go without one!
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Push-pull is for longbows only. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER push-pull a recurve.
When I brace or unbrace my longbows, my head is turned to the side and I do it by feel. On the stronger ones, I use a stringer.
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Rich- For some reason I have a feeling that a helmet,goggles,and athletic protector is all you wear when stringing a bow or when you're just kickin' it at the house.Why is that?I hardly know you but that's the image I have burned into my mind.
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Sort of makes building a tillering tree worth the effort...let's you check it out from a few feet away.
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Wadde- Glad you're okay. I had similar injuries a couple years ago when a '68 Super (69#) delammed along the lower nose cap at full draw. Like getting struck by lightening,lol. That's the problem with loving these old bows- the breakup really hurts! Grant
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Brad, Rick, thanks for the tip. I'll try the foam ear plug and see how that works.
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Johnny I know what you are saying, one small mistake, one slip or break. And the life long trauma it can leave. It can gross out a thousand, if it only saves 1 of those unfortunate occurrence's. Don't worry bout Doc, if he has not raped himself around a couple trees I would be surpise :D Say it ain't so Doc :biglaugh:
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HOLY CRAP! Who was raping Doc in a bunch of trees?
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Hey dont forget the steel toed boots