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Main Boards => Trad History/Collecting => Topic started by: Migra Bill on August 15, 2009, 03:22:00 PM
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Big Site - Auction number 330350713658
Saw it was about to end. Saw it was a Bear. Saw I could get it for 37 bucks. I jumped without even knowing what it is. Serial number starts with a "1". 58" AMO (thats probably a bad sign) and it only pulls 32#.
What do you guys think it is? Has to be worth 37 bucks I figure.
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Looks like a Cub I think.
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It's a 59, 60 or 61 Panda.
Made in 58" The bow you bought has a the little plastic shelf that slips behind the leather grip.
Trap
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I would agree with Trap. Let us know when you get your hands on it.
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so the little shelf makes it ambidextrous?
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Kevin, I should have magnified the image a little more. The inset in the middle of the page on the right side states.
"Interchangeable arrow rest slips into either side of the leather handle covering to accommodate right and left hand shooters"
The panda was commonly used by school archery programs, scout troops etc. Sometimes you'll find them with school names stamped in them and waterslide decals from archery organizations.
Cool little bows.
Trap
Trap
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Trap - What date would this gray glass Panda be? Silk screen is partially missing but still readable.
The interchangeable ambidextrous plastic rest is missing.
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/WadePhillips/PANDA.jpg)
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good god Wade you have a Panda ? bd
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Doc - I have been saving that Panda for you to use when you come to Nebraska to hunt with us...
Figured it would save you from having to pack a bow.
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if nothing else that would make a great story.bd
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Wade, Not sure but I'm guessing 61.
The 61 Bear Archery catalog shows the Panda available in a host of Bearglass colors.
Previous to that the catalogs only show one limb color.
1958- brown or black (can't tell for sure what color is depicted)
1959-1960 reddish orange
1961-multi colors
1961 Bear Archery catalog page 8
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa277/DUCK_TRAP/61Panda.jpg)
Trap
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gee'wiss I'd love to have one in every color.bd
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My father develpoed an interest in archery due to a high school archery program. He graduated in 1960 so it's likely the Panda was what he was shooting at the time.
I wonder how many others were introduced to archery by these inexpensive starter bows?
The manufacturers of the era did a great job of promoting their sport. I know that Shakespeare and Pearson also offered "starter" level bows.
I wonder if Matthews or Bow Tech does that?
Trap
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Doc, I know where you could probably get your hands on a gray glass and a red glass Panda. ;)
That would get you started :bigsmyl:
Trap
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yeah I can see that happening.bd
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Trap – This is how I discovered and documented that little gray glass Panda is a 1958 model, which has a straight grip as compared to the catalog images you posted which have a slight pistol grip and a little wider sight window.
After you posted the first Panda catalog page August 15, 2009 05:53 PM, I checked the gray glass Panda I had and it appeared that the riser and grip were a little different. After checking my 1958 Catalog, and not seeing a Panda, I was unsure what year the bow really was. Then posted the photograph of it and my question, thinking you probably knew, especially since you have children who shoot lighter weight bows.
After posting my original question with the photograph of the gray glass Panda, August 16, 2009 09:35 AM, I spent the next few hours looking for documentation about it. I checked an old list of bows that said the Panda started in 1958, but that could not be supported with my 1958 Catalog which did not have the Panda nor the Alaskan in it, so I thought there was a mistake on the list. I have found several minor mistakes on this list and have been working to update and expand it so finding the correct year that the Panda started became a mission.
After finally finding actual Panda documentation from the era in the Nov and Dec 1958 Archery ads. I realized that Bear introduced the Alaskan and Panda at mid-year after the 1958 catalog was printed. Then I made the original post about the bow being a 1958, that post is now replaced with this text.
Should have explained all of this in the original post to be clear.
Then I checked the Bear Catalog CD and noticed that what I had written about the Panda not being in the 1958 Catalog was true for my Catalog, but not true for other 1958 Catalogs.
Page 9, first 1958 Catalog shows Bear Cub...
Page 9, second 1958 Catalog shows Bear Alaskan...
Page 10, first 1958 Catalog shows 9 photos inside plant
Page 10, second 1958 Catalog shows Bear Panda
Never realized that there were two different printings of the 1958 Bear Catalog.
And then I saw your post... so changed the texts in this post because quite frankly, I felt like an idiot in saying that the Alaskan and Panda were not in the 1958 Catalog, when in fact they were in some 1958 Catalogs.
For me it was both educational and humbling to learn of the two different 1958 Catalogs. Hopefully this makes us all aware that other difference may exist in other years and we all make some effort to find those differences.
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My mistake was trying to determine age by looking at one feature only such as glass color.
We've seen many examples of this not being reliable. In this case, riser configuration was a more definitive trait.
Cool stuff, Trap
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The Panda is in my '58 catalog reprint. Retailed for $17.50! :D
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Okay, here we go again with reviving old threads.
Don, I got a Panda for you to shoot when you come to Alberta as well. I know you are not gettin any younger so I ordered it up in a 35 pound draw weight. :saywhat:
The good news is that it appears to be brand new with the tag still on it.
DDave
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If any of you guys ever run on to a pink Panda, let me know. I have a granddaughter that is four and coming on strong with her shooting.
I think that a pink one would be rather rare.
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Oh MY...we have put the Kodiaks on the back burner and turned to Pandas.
I love these threads from the dead.
BTw, Did they make a pink panda?
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I don't know about pink but I have seen them that came from the factory painted yellow.
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The 1961 catalog shows an option for nine colors. It would be somewhat of a challenge to collect all nine. Can you imagine the abuse that kids dished out those bows?
When I was young I thought that the fiberglass bows sold at Kmart were pretty fun. I never ever dreamed of owning Kodiaks or any of the grown-up bows.
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Hope this survives moderator scrutiny. In answer to the query a few years back about whether the compound bow manufacturers offer a starter version for kids, the answer is yes. The bow used in the National Archery in the Schools Program is a special version made by Mathews called a Genesis. It allows kids of all draw lengths to shoot without adjustment.
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I have a Genesis that I bought for the grandkids. Pretty sorry excuse for a bow. I think that kids would learn faster and have more fun with trad gear sized for them.
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Originally posted by warpedarrow:
I have a Genesis that I bought for the grandkids. Pretty sorry excuse for a bow. I think that kids would learn faster and have more fun with trad gear sized for them.
As some who was certified by NASP to train its instructors and who was himself started on traditional tackle as a young boy, I see it both ways. I'm going to start a new discussion on starting kids over on the PowWow forum.