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Title: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: johnnyrazorhead on July 02, 2009, 11:51:00 AM
I just love to share all things Fred with my fellow Tradgangbangers so I thought I would post some pics of one of my latest finds.The UPS man must have shown up yesterday after I left for work and brought this little goodie along with some other stuff.It is one of Fred's personal hunting arrows,signed by him.It is the arrow on the top in the photo.The other arrow is also one of Fred's,signed by him that I had.I made the display plaque up awhile ago so I could hang them up in my bowroom or if I decided to set up at an archery show.The top arrow is a Magnum .320 aluminum arrow and the bottom arrow is a Kodiak 411 Supreme fiberglass arrow.Some special personal items from "the man".
    (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/FredBeararrowsI.jpg)
    (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/FredBeararrowsIII.jpg)
    (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/FredBeararrowssigs.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: jcar315 on July 02, 2009, 11:55:00 AM
Absolutely fantastic! Great display. Do people ask about them when they come over?
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: johnnyrazorhead on July 02, 2009, 12:00:00 PM
Thanks John.I only recently hung them up in my bowroom and haven't had too many paople over to see them.They hang above the door to my room so most people probably wouldn't even notice them 'cuz I have so many other arrows around but I look at them every time I leave the room.Just a reminder of ol' Fred.
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: jcar315 on July 02, 2009, 12:04:00 PM
Just super nice looking display and tribute. I take it for granted about Fred but am always curious what other know or don't know about him. I enjoy trying to fill in a few blanks.
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: yellow bow on July 02, 2009, 04:38:00 PM
very cool.  :thumbsup:    :cool:
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: TRAP on July 02, 2009, 06:24:00 PM
Sweet  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:  

Trap
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: CrookedStick on July 02, 2009, 09:25:00 PM
Wow John, great looking display!

I gotta come and visit to see that stuff in person. I bet you can feel 'it' when you walk into your bowroom.


Bernie
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: ChuckC on July 02, 2009, 10:49:00 PM
Looks like he switched between right and left wing feathers.  or am I seeing wrong
ChuckC
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: TRAP on July 02, 2009, 10:52:00 PM
I think you're correct Chuck.  Trap
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: TonyW on July 02, 2009, 10:53:00 PM
How long are the arrows?

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Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: bowhunterfrompast on July 02, 2009, 11:10:00 PM
Nice  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: Grant Young on July 02, 2009, 11:26:00 PM
Great display John. Chuck; Bear said in an intervies with Outdoor life many years ago that right or left hand fletch was immaterial to him so long as they were helically fletched.   GY
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: Wade Phillips on July 03, 2009, 12:06:00 AM
Tony - As funny as you are, I'm surprised you don't remember that Fred always made his arrows exactly twice as long as half their length...

John - You should post some photographs of Fred with the arrows in his bow quiver...

1969 Bear Catalog page 8, far left photograph, Fred's arrows are close to your top one, noticeable difference is black cock feather, but same yellow feathers, and same red nock, and white dip...

1969 Bear Catalog inside front cover, cresting on Fred's arrow looks very close to top arrow, but it is a bit out of focus to say it is identical on every fine line.

1968 Bear Catalog, front cover is close too, but black cock feather..

1967-1/2 Bear Catalog, front cover also close to top arrow, but has black cock feather..
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: johnnyrazorhead on July 03, 2009, 07:12:00 AM
Ron- Thanks for the pic,I didn't think of that one.I've got a couple others I found.
 Tony-The arrows I have measure approx. 28 3/4" from the throat of the nock to the back of the broadhead.
 I noticed too that the arrows had both right and left hand helical.
  (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/FredsarrowsinpicsII.jpg)
  (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/FredsarrowsinpicsI.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: Wade Phillips on July 03, 2009, 08:07:00 AM
Ron - Good find on the photograph of Fred with John's arrow. Sometimes less is better, this cropped portion of your image may not get pulled from this thread...

 (http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/WadePhillips/0FRED.jpg)

John - Nice photographs of Fred and the arrows with the moose. You should put these photographs on the plaque behind the arrows, or add the photographs as wings on the plaque. The photographs add so much more than just the engraved label on the plaque.

Hunting photographs are ideal to validate authenticity of an item. In my display at Compton, I'm sure you noticed the photograph of Fred with his 1945 moose and his identical personal arrow in the display that he inscribed with his name and dated 1945. The photograph of Fred with his Fallow Deer and and the arrow he used to kill that deer, is even more interesting because Fred is on tape with that actual arrow in his hand describing the hunt and the arrow.

The more you can add to a display to validate the authenticity of the items, the more interesting the display becomes. Occasionally, it takes a great deal of time to locate all the information to go with the items, but that is the real fun part of collecting, seeking the information.
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: jcar315 on July 03, 2009, 09:07:00 AM
Great thread with great info. I would aspire someday to have one of Fred's arrows. Lots of mojo in those arrows.
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: Stickbow98 on July 03, 2009, 01:35:00 PM
Thanks for cropping that pic Wade, I see it's already gone. I was certain I loaded the right size.    :knothead:  

You are definetly right about this aspect of the sport I enjoy the most, the thrill of the "hunt for history!!"    :archer:  

>>--Ron--<>
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: Bob Dunn on July 03, 2009, 05:16:00 PM
Cool stuff guys.
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: wasapt on July 04, 2009, 10:27:00 AM
All I can say is wow! thanks for sharing, this is great stuff, more please.
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: Liquid Amber on July 05, 2009, 10:39:00 AM
I have one arrow and two color pages from some magazines of Fred....all signed; I have them displayed in a nice shadow box arrangement.  They were given to the late Sterling Harrell, a friend of Fred's.  Sterling was my neighbor and friend.  I acquired these items and others from Sterling's widow.

I have a number of signed photos as well.

 (http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh338/spikeknife/fbarrows.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: JavelinaHink on July 05, 2009, 10:58:00 AM
John....some nice arrows there and pictures.
Cliff....that's a nice display there....thanks for sharing also.

Would like to get my hands on all of those and more....  ;) ........Hink.....   :archer:
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: Wade Phillips on July 05, 2009, 12:34:00 PM
Cliff - Very nice display.
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: yellow bow on July 05, 2009, 12:48:00 PM
real nice Cliff  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: TRAP on July 05, 2009, 01:13:00 PM
Very nice Cliff, very nice  :thumbsup:  

Trap
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: Bjorn on July 05, 2009, 02:13:00 PM
:thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: jcar315 on July 05, 2009, 04:19:00 PM
Signed pics and arrow in a shadow box? Be still my beating heart!
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: johnnyrazorhead on July 05, 2009, 08:45:00 PM
Cliff- Very nice job of displaying your arrow,I like the addition of the signed photos.I noticed that your arrow is signed like my other Fred Bear arrow with the feathers to the right of the signature.The two I showed on my plaque both have the feathers to the left and then the signature.Do you know the length of your arrow from the nock throat to the back of the broadhead?Just curious if it's the same as mine which I imagine it is.Very nice job!
  (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/secondFredBeararrowsignedI.jpg)
  (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/secondFredBeararrowsignedII.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: JavelinaHink on July 06, 2009, 11:34:00 AM
Hey....John...we need to trade for that last arrow you have there...  ;)  Hink...  :archer:
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: Liquid Amber on July 07, 2009, 02:45:00 PM
For those who asked.

All I can see on the shaft is X7, aluminum.

Best I can measure with the arrow in the box is 29 7/8ths, give or take an 1/8th, bop; groove in nock to end of shaft.  

Right helical.
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: Moooseran on July 07, 2009, 11:54:00 PM
I have 4 signed Fred Bear arrows on my web site.

 www.mooseran.com (http://www.mooseran.com)
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: cacciatore on July 08, 2009, 03:31:00 PM
Jhonny congrats,very nice arrows
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: johnnyrazorhead on July 09, 2009, 01:48:00 AM
Thanks Felix.They are very special.And just think,they're left-hand arrows,perfect for you when you get your left-hand take-down bow.I'm still watching for you.
Title: Re: Fred Bear's arrows
Post by: cacciatore on July 09, 2009, 02:09:00 AM
You and all the other guys are very nice this is the reason I take so much care of this comunity,as everyone feels there is some special people up here.Felix