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Title: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: Cody Roiter on June 03, 2009, 01:54:00 PM
Hello guys, I know there has been many great bows made back in the day.. But I am sure there where many oddball bows that there are only a few of that where never sold.. So if any of you guys have some could you post pics....

Thanks,

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    Cody
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: wadde on June 03, 2009, 08:46:00 PM
See what you can find out about 60's vintage bows with decals that say: BARR and APACHE Great looking woodwork on these.
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: Horney Toad on June 03, 2009, 09:43:00 PM
280353579500

On da bay, pretty darn odd.
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: johnnyrazorhead on June 04, 2009, 07:43:00 AM
Alright Cody,here is one of the oddest looking bows I have ever seen.It was made by a Michigan bowyer back in the 1950's by the name of Jim Hodek.He was from Traverse City.
  (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/Hodekall.jpg)
  (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/HodekriserI.jpg)
  (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/HodekriserII.jpg)
  (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/Hodeklimbtip.jpg)
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: JavelinaHink on June 04, 2009, 09:01:00 AM
John , that's a cool looking bow. I have a few of Jim's bows but this one is something else. Thanks for posting it...I have to say it, if you ever decide to unload it keep me in mind....Bill
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: johnnyrazorhead on June 04, 2009, 09:25:00 AM
Bill,
 I've also got a couple other Hodek made bows but this one is by far the wildest looking one of the bunch.If i decide to part with it I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: Cody Roiter on June 04, 2009, 09:39:00 AM
John if I am right that looks like a longbow with wood over lays on the nocks...... How cool I love that riser as well....

Cody
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: Wade Phillips on June 04, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
John - That is the most unusual looking Hodek bow I have ever seen. I'd love to know the story behind that design. I'm sure it was a shootable design, but would have to guess that it was a prank rather than a serious design.  

For those who don't know, Jim was a serious bowyer and most of his designs look far more traditional than the unusual design that John posted...

These Hodek bows are from the original Grumley Collection and clearly illustrate that Jim Hodek was a legitimate bowyer, not just a prankster.

 (http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/WadePhillips/HODEKBO2.jpg)
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: mwmwmb on June 04, 2009, 12:44:00 PM
300318647040 is pretty odd. Wade or anyone about some info on that?
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: Cody Roiter on June 04, 2009, 01:01:00 PM
Mwmwmb those are rare bows... the last one I seen sold for more then $500..

Cody
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: Wade Phillips on June 04, 2009, 01:07:00 PM
Mickey - Emil Pikula was the owner of Pikula Machine Products in Cleveland, Ohio. A small part of his business was archery tackle, bows, broadheads and such. In Ohio and surrounding states he was a fairly well known name back in the 40s and 50s but not many guys know of him today. A small outfit as far as his archery products. Back in those days, many people with a manufacturing business, dabbled in making archery products. Sort of like Traditional Archery is today with dozens of people with a manufacturing business or background getting into some area of the archery business, bows, broadheads, etc.
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: Wade Phillips on June 04, 2009, 01:09:00 PM
Cody - How long ago did you see a Pikula sell for that much?
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: Cody Roiter on June 04, 2009, 01:25:00 PM
last year at Kzoo... I thinkin it was around $450to $500... why was that to much for that bow ?...
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: Wade Phillips on June 04, 2009, 02:11:00 PM
That is far more that I would care to spend for one. But as with all collectibles, there are many specialists who are willing to pay a significant premium for a specific item they are looking for. An example is I would probably pay more for a specific Grumley bow that I was looking for than 99 percent of the other bow collectors who aren't that interested in Grumleys.
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: mwmwmb on June 04, 2009, 02:13:00 PM
Thanks Wade and Cody.
were all of his designs strange? what is the intention of this design?

I would like to see a pic of it braced. Brace height 15". LOL
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: Wade Phillips on June 04, 2009, 02:30:00 PM
Mickey - I believe most of Hodek are a very conventional design for the period they were made. This can be confirmed with his bows in the display case. I don't know his intention of the wild design that John has, but if I had to guess, I'd say he was just goofing off to make an unusual bow. Maybe John knows the real story behind the bow.

It appears to me that the bow may have two separate grips, a high and low grip. A cool bow, whatever the story is behind it.
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: johnnyrazorhead on June 04, 2009, 03:56:00 PM
Wade and everyone else reading this.I agree with you Wade,I'm sure Jim built the bow more as a novelty than a serious shooter.I understand Jim was a remarkable woodworker so maybe he was just showing off.I got the bow from a gentleman up in northern Michigan.It was initially made by Jim and given to his brother as they were friends.His brother owned an archery shop back in the day.The bow has some very faded writing on it stating it was made for his friend.The other two Hodek bows I have are of a slightly more traditional design and are both signed by Hodek.This one is not but I told by the recipients brother that it was made by Jim.It has 50's era woven green glass on the back.I imagine it is shootable but I doubt that it would be a very pleasant experience with those big tips.There is only one grip on it and there is an arrow shelf for a right-hand shooter.I didn't realize I had the bow upside-down in one of the photos.You can barely make out a small piece of leather as a strike plate in the one photo.Probably the oddest bow I will ever see.
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: raghorn on June 04, 2009, 05:37:00 PM
This wouldn't be called an "odd " bow......just different!

 (http://images.imagelinky.com/1244151186.jpg)

 (http://images.imagelinky.com/1244151296.jpg)

 (http://images.imagelinky.com/1244151351.jpg)
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: JavelinaHink on June 04, 2009, 06:25:00 PM
Don't think the Pikula bow really sold at the Kalamazoo show, I remember the owner picking it back up on Sunday from Lon's table of bows that he sells for guy's that drop off them for the weekend, I was set up next to Lonnie so I was keeping an eye on it. But it was for sale.at a high price
Ron, nice looking bow there are all the inlays wood...
Here is looker ......Hink
 (http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq170/mibowman/DSCN1563.jpg) (http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq170/mibowman/DSCN1564.jpg)
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: Horney Toad on June 04, 2009, 07:36:00 PM
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z134/Horney_Toad/Weird-bow.jpg)


 (http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z134/Horney_Toad/weirdbow2.jpg)
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: raghorn on June 04, 2009, 08:24:00 PM
Those aren't inlays,  it's the laminations done that way-light and dark wood,opposite directions.
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: mwmwmb on June 04, 2009, 09:09:00 PM
nice looking bows guys. keep em coming.
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: mwmwmb on June 04, 2009, 09:10:00 PM
horny toad what kind is that?
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: Horney Toad on June 04, 2009, 11:27:00 PM
I don't have a clue what it is, once it was on da bay and I had to save the pictures!
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: johnnyrazorhead on June 05, 2009, 05:05:00 PM
Here's another sort of oddball Hodek made bow.I thought maybe one of your bows might have tips like this one Wade as it's a bit more "traditional" in style than my other one.Maybe this was another novelty bow.I use it as a putter.
  (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/Hodekclubsig.jpg)
  (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/Hodekclubupperlimb.jpg)
  (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/HodekclublimbtipI.jpg)
  (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/detroitdeerslyer/HodekclublimbtipII.jpg)
Title: Re: Lets see some oddball bows
Post by: d. ward on June 06, 2009, 10:19:00 AM
Raghorn Ron is your bow a Delo built somewhere around Kent Washington ???? I know those sure look like Delo lams to me.
Balsa wood and walnut I believe.I know he used that soft balsa wood a lot.I may be spelling his name wrong also it might be Dielo ??? bd