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Main Boards => Trad History/Collecting => Topic started by: michigan bill on April 21, 2009, 11:17:00 AM
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I just became the proud owner of a 56" 54# Groves Flame Hunter recurve. What a great shooting bow it is!
I've googled and googled and cannot find any info on this particular Groves bow, although I learned a lot about Mr. Harold Groves and his famous Spitfire Recurve - several times a world record holder in Flight Archery.
The Flame Hunter model seems to be an early 1970's bow but that's all I know about it.
Anyone know anything about the Groves Flame Hunter? Thanks.
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you could try here or over on stickbow and look up george stout,he helps me out alot with info. on vintage bows
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I had the chance to shoot a spitfire this pastweekend at a 3d shoot. Man I was immpressed.
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Ask Joe Skipp or Mike Robin [bamboo] they knowum plenty.
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Bill,
Talk to Jim Shannon. He once worked for Harold Grove. He could probably tell you something, but be careful or he will talk you out of that Flame Hunter. A good Groves is very much sought after and you've got yourself a jewel.
Louis
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Will do, Louis.
Thanks.
Bill
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got pics ??? bowdoc
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Bill, I have one in pristine condition, although I probably know less about it than you do.
One thing I love about mine is that has about the most irredescent piece of Bubinga I have ever seen. I have an Ultra Mint Bear Kodiak Dogleg with the same irredescent wood. When you take them out into the sunlight, they look like they have veins of gold running through them. Of all of my other Bubinga bows, these are the only ones with the irredescent quality, so I assume that it is just a freak chance on these two particular bows.
However, maybe Harold Groves made a point of using irredescent Bubinga on that particular model, thus the name "FLAME HUNTER". What about yours? Does it have that irredescenst look to it.
Possibly mine only still have it because they are in such pristine condition. I wish all of my bows were in that great a shape.
Most Groves bow will really "rocket" and arrow. This is probably due to the "dyno-stressed" construction.
Groves bows were glued up in two stages. First one set of laminations (glass and inner core wood) were glued to the riser at a certain angle in a bow pressed. Once this stage was compleated, the other piece of glass and inner cre wood was added in a differend bow press with a different angle. In other words the back laminations and the belly laminations were glued in under differet pressers or "stress". thus the term "dyno-stressed". To the best of my knowledge, Groves was the only bowyer that did this.
I am sure that someone out ther can give a better explanation of how dyno-stressed bows are constructed and what difference it makes, but with my limited explanatory skills and knowledge, that's the best I can do.
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Hey Bill,
How about some pics of this bow?? Sounds really great. Don't know anything about Groves bows, but They do have a rep for being great shooters.
Show us the photos....!!
Harry.
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There a great bow...and have been looking for one for awhile...if you guy's get time please post some pic's..... :jumper: :jumper:
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Jack, does your Flame Hunter say Dyna-Stressed on it? Just asking because I researched these a year or so ago, and was told the Flame Hunter was not made with the Dyna-Stressed limbs. Harold's son still lives in NM and the person I spoke with had consulted him on various aspects of the bows. I need to post a picture of my Groves, it arrived in two pieces! :scared: CKruse
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Cameron
I don't recall if it says Dyno-Stressed or not. I just assumed that all Groves bows were built with that method. Once again...I could be wrong.
This thread does have me curious about The Bubinga in other Flame Hunters though. Are they all irredescent like mine, or is my just happen to be that way. Mine definitely deserves the name "FLAME HUNTER"
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Would like to add a pic of a very awsome Groves Spitfire Magnum bow if I can figure how to post. I have not shot it yet but it looks fast, smooth fast and silky smooth to draw.
-Joe=
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I found the info I was looking for. Several of my old Anderson Archery and Kittredge Bow Hut catalogs list the Groves bows. The Flame Hunter, Flame Target, and Fireline Target were not Dyna-Stressed. CKruse
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Cameron, is it easy to list what is said about the Flame Hunter? After my initial posts, I think I suffered a bout of Old-Timers' Disease.
I will (haste! post haste!) get a pic of my bow for youse guys to "evaluate."
Now,where did I put that camera...?
Bill
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Pics of the 56" Groves Flame Hunter:
Bill
(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd352/dixiethor/100_0287.jpg)
(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd352/dixiethor/100_0286.jpg)
(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd352/dixiethor/100_0285.jpg)
(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd352/dixiethor/100_0284.jpg)
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I got one of these a couple years ago 49# @28
riser has 3 different woods + accent lines
but what I really like is the glass, green & red
woven glass muted tones makes for a natural camo
very fast bow these are not dyno stressed limbs
like my spitfire
Steve
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:thumbsup: Nice looker
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WHOA!!!! Nice looking bow, but nothing like mine. Looks like hardrock maple and possibly phenolic. Can't really tell by the picture but is it Curley Maple? What is the dark section.
Nice one Bill...I can see why you are so excited about it. Never see one like it.
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I just bought a Groves Sptitfire Magnum off the otherbay thing. Part of my bucket list, there is a Jack Howard as well on there, that will have to be another bucket. I did not expect to get that cheap, I did not expect my bid to hold up.