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Main Boards => Trad History/Collecting => Topic started by: 4runr on April 14, 2009, 09:06:00 AM
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I have a friend who is a bit clueless about Traditional archery. We have recently worked together on a project I'm doing, he's an electrician. I've been chatting about my passion with bows and he seemed to have some interest in it. He shoots compounds and has a neighbor kid who brings an old painted Pearson over and shoots with him.
Dan, my friend, found out his Grandpa had an old Bear up in the attic. He gets it out and without talking to me about it tries to unstring it. Apparently, it's been put away for a long time strung.
Here are the sad results.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/4runr/SA400117.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/4runr/SA400115.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/4runr/SA400116.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/4runr/SA400109.jpg)
She was a looker too!
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/4runr/SA400118.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/4runr/SA400114.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/4runr/SA400112.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/4runr/SA400111.jpg)
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angel breaks ????? no bow stringer ???? what a loss..........bd
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Ohhhh-no! That's way too bad Trap. Grant
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Before he brought it over he asked if it's possible to fix the tip because it had a little problem. I said sure, bowdoc fixes tips all the time. When he pulled her out of the truck, I saw the good end and my heart fluttered a bit when I saw the riser. Then I saw the other end and my heart jumped to my throat.
I said, "You didn't use a stringer did you?"
He said "Whatz a stringer"
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An old Bear bow...
Just about one of the most desirable "old Bear bows" there is.
Tell him "no worries" BowDoc can fix it.
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I can spot them no stringer guy's pretty easy..Saw those limbs off and she will make a great handle for his suitcase......sad day.bd
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What beautiful bow,that's sad.
Terry
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I might have a better plan than a suitcase handle,but my daughter left our camera at college.
I hope to post pics soon.
Kurt
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Looking forward to the pics Kurt. I told him the repair was hopeless, but I would think about how to preserve the riser for memories. Not neccessarily the rememberance of his mistake, but his GP's bow.
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Looks like kindling wood now!!! what a bummer. Must have been dried out like balsa wood. Hey Bd what would you have done with that one? Would there have been a way to get some humidity back into the bow before unsringing it? Jim
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Just wondering...........could a riser like that somehow be converted into a takedown?
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Sad story.
Hope this will not add credibility to the bad reputation of the KSDs delamination problem. I string mine and pull at full draw with no ill effect. I plan on shooting it this summer regardless of what some say.
-Simon
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I'm afraid that bow was lost long before your friend unstrung it. The heat of an attic had done its work long ago. I believe even using a stringer it would have de-laminated.
Bob
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actually I'am a bit more inclined to think maybe he just wanted to draw it a few times and did not look or maybe did not know the bottom string loop was only in one noc.When full force draw is added to that the result is one dead ass Bear Kodiak Special Deluxe.The clear glass is broken at an angle step through or loop not in both nocs.sad sad day.I would say she's dead...bd
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I know the stories regarding the structural integrity of these bows are way overblow; however, I've seen way too many of them in this condition to think there wasn't a problem with a good percentage of them. I have two down in the basement that I bought in similar condition. The attic surely did the worst of the damage to that one, though. CKruse
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oh no :scared: looks like lamp material now. I feel sick.
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Just get Bowdoc to put some takedown clamps on it and get a new set of limbs
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Looks like an "Organ Donor", Save the coin,, Knife scales out of the riser a key fob out of the tip.. Keep the spirit alive.
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I'm a little surprised that it wasnr already delaminated if it was stored in an attic strung.
I agree with Ken, salvage the good stuff, burn the rest.
Trap
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You only need to find two more for a stool. :bigsmyl:
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Don't forget to salvage that nice feather rest.
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Is that tears I see in the pictures? Just sand those limbs off and get some zebra wood and clear glass and glue on some new ones. easier said than done I guess. I have a 66" tamerlane that was 45@28 that is in the same condition. It should be possible to re-limb them.
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Heck you can even send me the key fob..
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Dan decided he wanted no part of this bow hanging around to remind him of his screw up.
It wasn't stored in the attic, it was in the basement. It wasn't his Grandpa's it was his father-in-law's.
So, now that we got all the facts straight, here's what we're gonna do. He gave the bow to me as is. I would like input from all you collectors as to what to do with it to make use of such a beautiful peice of Bear history. I'll listen to all your ideas and make a decision, then post pics of the results. I know alot of ideas have already been proposed, but I'd like more.
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I agree with Bjorn. A couple of more would make a great stool. :bigsmyl:
Al
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Mad Dog Archery relimb her
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I agree with Kurt - resurrect it with new limbs. Mad Dog may be able to come close to matching the original with clear glass and zebrawood lams. Maybe you can get a set of dry-transfers, too, so that it would be "better-than-new", even shootable (with out having to worry about the problems that I have heard regarding the original limbs)!
Ray
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Recurve bow limbs seem pretty quirky things. They are either made right and they last. Or they aren’t made right or they are ABUSED and they don’t last. There’s really not much in between those two conditions.
Here’s another case in point – an otherwise sparkling 1966 Bear Super Magnum 48 with a slightly delaminated lower limb on the belly side of the curve. Who knows how or why it happened. But it happened. To string this bow now is to invite a major blowup.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/TimberlineX/TrdaeBows81209014.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/TimberlineX/TrdaeBows81209016.jpg)
Can it be repaired? Beats me. Not my area of expertise. I sort of doubt it, though. Or at least I don’t know that I would ever fully trust that lower limb again.
The only good news, I suppose, is that the crack on this particular bow is barely noticeable. In a display-only collection of classy Bear bows, this one would still be a standout.
Recurve limbs are quirky.
Would you try to get this Super Magnum 48 repaired? Or what are your thoughts on this bow?
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That was a beauty, Kenny
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l101/GUNSMITHAMMO/Smileys/02010611.gif)
Make a man cry, hopefully you can resurrect it :archer:
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i have a friend that bought a custom bow he shot in the backyard , unfortunatly him and his roomate parked in the backyard ,he laid his bow down in the grass to fetch arrows , his roomate came driving around the corner from work and reduced it to firewood
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Kenny, I may have the second leg of your stool headed my way as we speak.
I took a chance on a KSD with an attractive BIN price. We'll see. If it's a crapper, I'll send it to Kurt and let him make a bow rack out of it.
Trap
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Kenny, Maybe u could find a old Bear bow the same way and make a Take Down from it.. I have all ways wanted to try that..
Cody
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Kenny - Some of the old timers used discarded bows for Bow Art... floor lamps, table lamps, door handles, book racks, etc.
This is Archery Hall of Fame Inductee, Floyd Eccleston's personal floor lamp from his shop floor... Floyd made this lamp from three 1963 Kodiak Magnums and made several others from bows that he rescued from Bear Archery's discards. These Magnums have survived the past 46 years with dignity because Floyd was far sighted enough not to permit their partial or total destruction, and to create a useful purpose for them to survive intact.
A 66" Kodiak Special Deluxe is shown for length comparison to Floyd's lamp; 66" bows would make a nice useful tall floor lamp.
Lots of possibilities for your broken 66" Kodiak Special Deluxe to have a long and useful life as something other than a bow to shoot or display on a rack.
Hey, rumor has it that some old discarded longbows are even being used today as tomato stakes...
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/WadePhillips/BOWART.jpg)
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I like the lamp allot better! ;^)
Unfortunately even I have to admit this one is a lamp or bow rack. Still makes me sick, man a 67KSD would look awsome with my other 67's