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Title: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: Cody Roiter on April 10, 2009, 12:01:00 AM
well guys two day I went and warmed up my bow fishing bow old 1960s bear grizzly and some old pearson fish arrows... So I just wanted to see some old bows fishing stuff...

Cody
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: trapperDave on April 10, 2009, 12:19:00 AM
A 1968 Ben Pearson Hunter with an old Bear spring arm reel

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Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: Bob Dunn on April 10, 2009, 08:28:00 AM
(http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp123/marathonbob58/DSC00918.jpg) A old Bear outfit I picked up at a flea market years ago. Never out of the box.
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: Cody Roiter on April 10, 2009, 09:45:00 AM
wow Nice did u get it for a yard sale price ?

Wow still in the box good find man...

Cody
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: d. ward on April 10, 2009, 09:54:00 AM
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Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: TRAP on April 10, 2009, 10:02:00 AM
Doc, I really need that contraption on the far right.  Would you part with it?  Trade? Sell?  

Is that a Saunders?

Trap
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: Cody Roiter on April 10, 2009, 11:02:00 AM
damn I almost forgot I have a home made reel around here that my granddad made to fit it 1940s pearson wood bow.. I will have to see if I can look ot up....

Cody
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: reddogge on April 10, 2009, 11:35:00 AM
I made a reel similar to the ones in the bottom of bowdoc's picture back in the 60s.  It was made out of a whittled piece of wood and a bar of plexiglass screwed to the back of it.  Unfortunately I can't find it now but I have the arrow for it.
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: d. ward on April 10, 2009, 12:13:00 PM
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Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: d. ward on April 10, 2009, 12:14:00 PM
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Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: Cody Roiter on April 10, 2009, 12:30:00 PM
Thanks Doc for your pics....

Cody
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: Wade Phillips on April 10, 2009, 11:17:00 PM
Here is some old bowfishing stuff...

Mostly from the 1940s when wood and metal were about the only materials available for most bowmen.

There are 3 bowfishing reels and the business end of 5 bowfishing arrows..

Some are products produced by some historically significant archery personalities.

The Easter weekend trivia contest for the archer-collector-shooter-bowfisherman...

If anyone can identity the item and the maker of 8 of the 9 items, I will send all 9 items to that person… Only one winner, which requires 8 that are identified.

A few hints…

1. One item was made by a man who killed a moose 12 years before Fred Bear killed his first moose…

2. One man’s first name is Bob…

3. At least one of the items appeared in archery periodicals of the era…

4. One item was made by one of Fred Bear's earliest hunting companions...

5. One item was made by Bear Archery, it is so easy it should not have been in the photograph…

6. These items came from several different states.

7. Two wooden arrows have aluminum nocks, one is self nock.

8. One of the items has appeared in an auction within the past two years, but was un-named and undated.

Hinkley you can not play, you know too much already. I have duplicates of only one item, and you will get one...

If there is no winner, I will post the correct answers on Monday...

Good luck to all...

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Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: Cody Roiter on April 10, 2009, 11:29:00 PM
Thanks wade but damn u at the same time U and your games LOL Wade you know I am jokeing with you..  I am not goin to play as I realy dont know and I just dont want to shoot out any thing as I would like to learn so I will sit back from this one...

Cody
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: bowhunterfrompast on April 11, 2009, 01:15:00 AM
Damn U Wade  :biglaugh:  

Some history buff is going to end up with some great bowfishing artifacts. Good luck fellas.
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: Cody Roiter on April 11, 2009, 01:25:00 AM
Ok this should be fun guys...

Cody
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: JavelinaHink on April 11, 2009, 06:41:00 PM
This bowfishing rig was used by a man who killed a moose 12 years before Fred Bear killed his first moose, the Ben Pearson head is there to cover his name. Any info on the reel please pass along, I haven't been able to find a name to go with it. Maybe homemade? But doesn't look to be.
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Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: d. ward on April 12, 2009, 06:33:00 AM
Markworth ??? and the fish head that looks somewhat like a ground down pocket knife blade ? bd
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: JavelinaHink on April 12, 2009, 08:27:00 AM
Here is an interesting item, used to shoot the fishing rig out into the surf and then fish , and reel back when you hooked up.cool idea
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Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: JavelinaHink on April 12, 2009, 11:37:00 AM
2. Bob -----   :jumper:    :jumper:   can't wait
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: Wade Phillips on April 12, 2009, 12:40:00 PM
Doc - Never heard of a Markworth (either one or two names) as related to any bowfishing equipment.

I'm certainly no expert on bowfishing tackle. But then I can't say that I have ever met anyone who really is. But then there are certainly a lot guys who I never met.

Most of the half dozen or so guys who were the more active or serious collectors of fish points and fish heads 25 years ago or so, are now deceased.

Bowfishing tackle is a field of collecting that has only gained significant interest the past few years since collecting fish points and fish heads has become popular among some of the newer broadhead collectors.

I would hope that at some point in the future, that someone will write a comprehensive book about all vintage bowfishing tackle. My mediocre initial efforts to document just fish points and fish heads, were certainly far from complete.
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: Wade Phillips on April 13, 2009, 06:12:00 AM
Easter is over. Hopefully the Easter eggs were found with more luck than names were found for this old bowfishing stuff. LOL. Sorry to report nobody even got on the scoreboard for consideration as the winner.

These are the identities of 8 of the 9 items. Someone else will have to identify the ninth item…

Fred Bear – Wooden Bowfishing reel in center. Fred’s earliest wooden design that I have found that he actually marketed.

Basil Hughes – Wooden Bowfishing reel  at right with metal bracket. Basil was one of Fred’s earliest bow hunting pals. Basil killed a moose with the bow in 1933, twelve years before Fred killed his first moose.

Jim Robinson - Top arrow – Fish Point made from a screw driver blade with a single barb made from a finishing nail - Barb wrapped with wire.

Jim Robinson – Second Arrow from Top – Fish Point made from a screw driver blade with a single reversal barb made from a finishing nail.

Ben Morgan – Third Arrow from Top – Knife blade design with barbs riveted to alum ferrule, Birch arrow with aluminum nock.

Bob McGill – Fourth Arrow from Top – Fish point made with nail in ferrule - Single barb – Line loop made of wire at base of ferrule. Self nock arrow. A couple of these were sold at auction some time ago.

Jim Robinson – Bottom Arrow – Multi Barbed Blade made from screw driver blade that is mounted in a brass cartridge case for a ferrule. Tapered shaft with aluminum nock – hole in nock for line.

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Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: d. ward on April 13, 2009, 10:06:00 AM
here's Bob Markworth I wish I could get a better pic of his fish point.bd    (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/bm001.jpg)
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: Cody Roiter on April 13, 2009, 10:08:00 AM
Thanks Doc...
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: Wade Phillips on April 13, 2009, 10:46:00 PM
Doc - That is quite a photograph...

Just wish we had the film footage to watch what happened next...

When Bob Markworth releases that arrow...

Just hope that string from the fish point going up into the air is not tangled around the rod tip...

When the rod tip pulls downward, the resulting upward movement of the butt of that rod could cause some serious damage to his buddy holding the rod and reel in that precarious manner...

We've shot lots of big fish in big waters using the line attached to a reel, but always wound the first 30-40 yards of line on a bowfishing reel, then to the rod and reel.
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: Cody Roiter on April 13, 2009, 11:19:00 PM
Wade here is a Bob Markworth is he the same guy...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx4JpoPV0Ps
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: d. ward on April 14, 2009, 07:44:00 AM
That was a good video Cody thank you.I've not seen that in years.The best of all...of that video is where Bob shots the shark with the Bear Razorhead in the head.However that video is not the same pics as in the archery book.In the book Bob is on the bridge of a much larger boat named pappy..thanks again Cody that was great.bd
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: d. ward on April 14, 2009, 07:50:00 AM
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/hh.jpg)
Title: Re: lets see some old bowfishing stuff guys
Post by: Cody Roiter on April 14, 2009, 12:05:00 PM
So Doc The Bob u have the pic of is the same Bob in the video ?... If so Mr. Markworth is one hell of a nice guy I talked with him via Email don't u also know him Doc ?......

Cody