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Title: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Phillip King on March 11, 2009, 09:27:00 PM
I purchased these Arrows Quiver and 2 bows recently, Just wondering if they may be Historically important. Bows have no visible marks and are untillered with risers popped off.

 http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/570449514ygKVvm?vhost=home-and-garden&start=0
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: cornfed on March 11, 2009, 09:47:00 PM
The arrows on the right look as though they have plastic points.If so that may very well indicate the era of WW2 manufacture.
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Bjorn on March 11, 2009, 10:08:00 PM
Plastic nocks were not used until 1949. Judging from the pics some of the arrows have self nocks.
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Wade Phillips on March 12, 2009, 02:42:00 AM
Phillip King - Checked your photographs and do not see anything that I could possibly recognize as being historically significant. Actually the best things I see are the Elephant Foot Blunts. If you have a set of calipers, can you give me the length and OD at the body of the blunts?

Bjorn - I would be interested to hear your logic behind your statement, "Plastic nocks were not used until 1949."
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Phillip King on March 12, 2009, 03:19:00 AM
l & OD are 1/3/16* 3/8 to 7/16 thanks all.
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Phillip King on March 14, 2009, 10:53:00 PM
I just notice on the Broken Arrow With the Ben Pearson Stamp on it Is pencil Marked Walt Wilhelm
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: johnnyrazorhead on March 14, 2009, 11:07:00 PM
Now we're talkin'.
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Wade Phillips on March 15, 2009, 12:38:00 AM
The Walt Wilhelm and Ken Wilhelm arrows that I have and those that I have seen were hand made by Walt and Ken. Some are signed some are not.

An arrow manufactured by Ben Pearson and signed by Walt Wilhelm would still be a nice item.

You would need to authenticate the pencil marking as being Walt Wilhelm's before it could be considered legitimate. Even then it could not be authenticated as one of Walt's personal arrows unless you have additional evidence to indicated such a claim.

I have seen many arrows marked with names of old bowmen, some were marked (labeled may be more accurate) in modern times by modern collectors. Some marked arrows were simply autographed as mementos at shows or shoots etc, and are are not the actual personal arrow of the person who autographed the arrow. The difference between the historical significance is tremendous.  

I have several of Walt Wilhelm's original signatures on items such as arrows, arm guards, and paper.

If you want to post a close up of the Walt Wilhelm name on your arrow, I may be able to identify it as being like one of those that I have....
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: kurtbel5 on March 15, 2009, 11:21:00 AM
Hey Wade
Need your address to send you a Po-Mac arrow.

              Kurt
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: JavelinaHink on March 15, 2009, 11:47:00 AM
Omaha Nebraska post office is down...please mail through Po Box 35 Ida, Mi. 48140.....trying to help Wade
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: d. ward on March 15, 2009, 11:53:00 AM
whoops sorry Bill powers out in Ida Mi.Wade said ship to Don Ward 220 SW........I just had to bd
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: JavelinaHink on March 15, 2009, 11:59:00 AM
Don.....First guy never has a chance...thats good.
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: kurtbel5 on March 15, 2009, 09:38:00 PM
Javalina H send me your addy I'll send one your way.(for some reason, I thought you were a Texan)

BD Ive seen pics of your arrow bucket(s),it would just get lost in there.Unless you have a short bucket, behind all the tall, full ones

You are both true blue, archery collector friends, taking one for Wade like that.
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: d. ward on March 15, 2009, 09:55:00 PM
Yap Kurt you can count on the old bowdoc to take one for the team if need be bro.bd
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Wade Phillips on March 16, 2009, 01:59:00 AM
Boy, I have been on the darn phone most of the day, but I see Bill and Doc are looking out for me just about as well as my buddies out west...

Kurt - Sent you a PM. Trust me these guys know my mailing address well enough to not even have to even look up the zip code.
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: SELFBOW19953 on March 16, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
Speaking of old arrows, and not trying to hijack this thread, when were wooden blunts used?  I'm at work and can't do photos now, but I'll try tonight.

Phil
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Phillip King on March 16, 2009, 01:34:00 PM
That all good , the Pencil mark is printed Not a signature. Talk about Hijack a post.
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Phillip King on March 16, 2009, 01:36:00 PM
Well, I guess when they Didn't have other materials to use for blunts?
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Phillip King on March 16, 2009, 01:39:00 PM
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Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: kurtbel5 on March 16, 2009, 05:32:00 PM
Hi Phillip,

Hijacked threads are how we all learn, never know what will come about when your threads hijacked.lol

Someone might have offered you some cash for it,or even known the man who made it, never know.

Sounds like a picture for Wade is in order,since he made a nice offer to help,and he does kinda knows his stuff.

It would answer your questions.

Are you thinking of starting a collection?
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Phillip King on March 16, 2009, 09:08:00 PM
Here a link Pic hard to see Cant get the light right:

 http://community.webshots.com/album/570555409hvNnPH?vhost=community

just click on the photo and it will offer a larger view
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Phillip King on March 16, 2009, 09:11:00 PM
three threads in one Thats a record for a post I made I hijacked a thread before, didn't mean too.
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: d. ward on March 16, 2009, 09:45:00 PM
Pretty cool looking field tips on those.I thought the plastic field tips were from around WW2 when there was no steel for tips...bd
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Wade Phillips on March 16, 2009, 10:47:00 PM
Phil - At one time I had quite a few old blunts that were organized into a collection, traded them off many years ago. The collection has some blunts made of wood. Don't really have knowledge of any advertisements for wooden blunt to be able to assign any dates. If you post a photo someone may recognize something about the blunt or the arrow.

There are also some wooden Popenjay (sp) points made of wood that look like a blunt, some are actually part of the arrow which tapers to a larger OD toward the point end.
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Ron Roehrick on March 16, 2009, 11:51:00 PM
Wade Philips your mailbox is full.I would like to purchase a new ID GUIDE 1871-1971.Pay by paypal.Thanks, Ron Roehrick
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Phillip King on March 17, 2009, 06:14:00 PM
Talk about confusing Thread is over.
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Phillip King on March 17, 2009, 06:18:00 PM
Close the Thread Administrator,. Thanks I'm not gettin any answers anyway just hijacked.
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: d. ward on March 18, 2009, 08:07:00 AM
holy chit sorry I tried to help....bowdoc
Title: Re: Arrows of historical significants
Post by: Phillip King on March 20, 2009, 03:28:00 PM
Thanks for tryin Bowdoc.PK   :clapper: