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Title: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: d. ward on February 27, 2009, 10:26:00 AM
here's some pics to look at.Brazilian rosewood riser and white fiberglass limbs...but guess who this bow was built for ???? bd          (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/rc001.jpg)         (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/rc002.jpg)      (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/rc003.jpg)     (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/rc007.jpg)    (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/rc008.jpg)
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: Gray Wolf on February 27, 2009, 11:12:00 AM
I don't who but he must be a strong son-of-gun.
Mike
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: Mike Shaw on February 27, 2009, 11:44:00 AM
Arnold?  ....   :D
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: Henry Hammer on February 27, 2009, 11:45:00 AM
Why is there a hole drilled through the tip?
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: seboomook on February 27, 2009, 11:45:00 AM
Man , those limbs are stout! beautiful wood.
Plunger looks strange on a trad bow.
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: mwmwmb on February 27, 2009, 11:54:00 AM
what is that on the strike plate area? and what kind o bow is this? Details DOC
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: kenscollick on February 27, 2009, 11:54:00 AM
The hole is for a string keeper.
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: Shaun on February 27, 2009, 11:56:00 AM
Low wrist grip, nice reversed taper static tips, string keeper hole in the pin nocks, looks like a pin rest rather than a plunger to me.

Target bow for an Olympic archer?
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: kurtbel5 on February 27, 2009, 11:57:00 AM
No idea and Agree with GW

What is that button?

Hole for a string keeper, I get,why the string groove off of it?

Does that style tip have a name?
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: kurtbel5 on February 27, 2009, 11:58:00 AM
Ha ha
Most of my ? answered before I finished typing
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: PAPALAPIN on February 27, 2009, 12:05:00 PM
Is that a Plunger?

Looks more like a peg to me.  Like to be usesd as the rest.

What is the actual draw weight?

Was it made for Ulysses so only he could string it and shoot an arrow through the rings on twelve ax heads?
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: seboomook on February 27, 2009, 12:36:00 PM
I bet you guys are right about the pin rest.
Looking at the side view it is quite long for a plunger.
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: d. ward on February 27, 2009, 01:19:00 PM
nope its a wood peg.Not a plunger..nope not Glenn...actually the way the bow is built also made me think it was a very heavy draw weight however its 60" 49# and was built in 1967..yap the hole in the end served a couple purpuses one was a sting keeper two it was also used to hang the bow during storage and three also used during the finishing process to hang the bow to apply finish...bd   (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/rc009.jpg)
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: Shaun on February 28, 2009, 12:26:00 AM
Built during the Summer of Love, "wavy gravy" wood grain riser with 49# draw to honor how the compassionate Buddha sat by the river for 49 days before reaching the enlightenment of the middle path...  The bow was obviously built for ME!  I knew I forgot something from back then. Where did I leave it?
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: mwmwmb on February 28, 2009, 06:31:00 AM
goodone Shaun  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: d. ward on February 28, 2009, 08:36:00 AM
Shawn you was about half baked that night back in 1967 when you left my place you were wearing bell-bottoms a Zig-Zag tee shirt with flip flops on.You forgot your bow man...I must have been totaly baked becasue I can't remember eather..Joanie said it best...if you can remember you were not there..bd
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: d. ward on March 02, 2009, 09:33:00 AM
...bd   (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/rc001-1.jpg)
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: Bear Heart on March 02, 2009, 10:05:00 PM
Excuse my youthful ignorance, but who is Roy Case?
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: Wade Phillips on March 02, 2009, 10:24:00 PM
Bear Heart - Do a search on threads and you will find out a lot about Roy I. Case, one of the heirs to the Case Tractor Fortune...

    (http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/WadePhillips/ROYDEER4.jpg)

Doc - I have to admit you really got me on this one. After looking at that nock with the string keeper, my first thought was "that is just like the Roy Case Static Osage I have". Frankly, was way to embarrassed to make an educated guess that it was made by Roy Case. I sure out thought myself on this one...

I was a guest at Roy's home back in the early 1980s. His basement looked like it probably did back in the 1930s or 1940s. I don't remember seeing any working recurves at all. He'd probably given them all away by that time as he passed away only a few years later.

Great old bowmen...

Doc, here's a question for you you....

What archery related Patent was granted to Roy Case???

Now don't guess the string keeper...
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: d. ward on March 03, 2009, 07:00:00 AM
Wade yes two bows were given to a friend by Roy sometime in the 70's maybe.The were built by a guy name L.E.Kumerow in 1967 for Roy Case.I had 2 of them and traded one to Baldwin and kept the other.The one I have has a cracked lower limb but good looking rosewood riser.
That one stumped me but for some odd reason I thought he had a pat on something to do with the broadheads.It was not the head itself but maybe the dip sodering them ? bd
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: Wade Phillips on March 03, 2009, 08:03:00 AM
Doc - Interesting story about the bow. L.E. lKumerow sounds familiar but can not place the guy off hand.

Roy was one of the earliest broadhead manufacturers in the US. He started making broadheads in the 1920s. Although he made several different styles of broadheads over the years and ended production in the 1950s, he never had a patent on broadheads or broadhead related equipment.

Actually Roy's patent has something to do with the opposite end of the arrow...

I'll bet those wheels are turning now...

This is the "notchless" static limb tip with string keeper on Roy's bow that he signed and dated Feb 1942...

The "notchess" limb tip and string keeper are similar in many aspects to yours that is dated 25 years newer, 1967...

 (http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/WadePhillips/ROYCASE.jpg)
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: d. ward on March 03, 2009, 08:32:00 AM
wow no kidding that looks just like the string keeper on my bow and the tips even look the same.
Aluminum noc's ????????? bd  I came back and added this pic.That has got to have been built by the same guy.Right down to the small groove on the back...weird bd   (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/rca001.jpg)
Title: Re: never seen one of these b4 Roy Case new pic
Post by: Wade Phillips on March 03, 2009, 09:05:00 AM
Doc - Knowing Roy’s static was dated 1942, the last thing I figured was the Roy's bows from 1967 would still have the same nock. Like I said, I out guessed myself on that one.

In thinking back on Roy’s equipment, he did not change many things even though time had seen the development of improvements. Guess in many ways, we are all a lot like Roy in that regard…

Sorry Roy did not have a patent on aluminum nocks...

Actually aluminum nocks date back into the 1800s. Their first mention I have seen is in English Archery. In 1884, aluminum was the material used to cap the Washington Monument. At that time, aluminum was about equal in value to silver....

Can you envision buying a dozen nocks that would be equal in value to silver today???