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Title: Ever seen this 1959 Kodiak Special before
Post by: d. ward on February 14, 2009, 09:45:00 AM
I've seen lots and lots of different bow over the years.Not all but some I remember.I must say I do not ever recall seeing this on any bear bow or any manufactures bow ever...check this out...bd       (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/bowdocs/ks003.jpg)      (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/bowdocs/ks007.jpg)     (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/bowdocs/ks009.jpg)    (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/bowdocs/ks011.jpg)   (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/bowdocs/ks013.jpg)
Title: Re: Ever seen this 1959 Kodiak Special before
Post by: d. ward on February 14, 2009, 10:00:00 AM
What do you guy's see in the pics ? few clues yes you do see where I injected loctite into that little crack near the shelf.That was easy the next pic up shows black and white fiberglass tip overlays no big deal easy again.The top pic is a give-me also VA105 62" 59# however what do you see in pic 2 & 3 ???? ....bd
Title: Re: Ever seen this 1959 Kodiak Special before
Post by: tonto on February 14, 2009, 10:10:00 AM
to me the glass looks different on one side a different color and almost like two layers?
Title: Re: Ever seen this 1959 Kodiak Special before
Post by: TRAP on February 14, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
The serial number was likely made up by  whomever added  a layer of clear glass to increase weight.  

You told me who the previous owner was but not sure you wanted to disclose that here.  

Trap
Title: Re: Ever seen this 1959 Kodiak Special before
Post by: d. ward on February 14, 2009, 10:42:00 AM
damn you guy's are getting good at this stuff.That bow is a trip man..it is a 1959 Kodiak Special 62" 59#.I've never seen that before.Yes it is two layers of Bear factory 1959 gray fiberglass laminated together on the back.I would almost bet money I'am possitive thats Bear factory glass too.
I just can not figure if the bow was heavier using both piece of glass originaly and then the weight reduced for someone later on or if Bear Archery relaminated another piece of glass to the bow after the fact to make it heavier.
I gotta tell ya I've tried lots of glues and some expensive one's.I've never found any glue that would hold fiberglass together because you can not exceed the heat ranage that the bow was originaly laminated with you know 120% originaly and then you try and relam another piece on at even 100-110% sometimes and the rest of the bow will delams when you string it and sometimes they are delamed when you open the hot box the next day. odd duck there bd
Title: Re: Ever seen this 1959 Kodiak Special before
Post by: Abear on February 14, 2009, 11:17:00 AM
One of Vals old bows wish he was around to ask about it
Title: Re: Ever seen this 1959 Kodiak Special before
Post by: TRAP on February 14, 2009, 11:28:00 AM
It looks like the extra layer was an after thought to me.  Looks like it is feathered out towards the riser overlays.  If it were done originally wouldnt the glass have gone all the way to the center and the overlays been placed on top?  Can you tell where the silk screens are Doc?  What layer are they applied too?

Trap
Title: Re: Ever seen this 1959 Kodiak Special before
Post by: d. ward on February 14, 2009, 11:40:00 AM
Abear you and me both brother Val was a master craftsman thats for sure one of the best.But I myself just do not know for sure if Val did that work to it.Val and I talked alot about that and we could not get the bond joint between the two layers of glass to stay glued together.He never got time to make the repair on the arrow shelf and it felt pretty cool to me to be monkey-ing around with some of Val's personal collection.Sure wish I know for sure the answer to this one.....bd
Title: Re: Ever seen this 1959 Kodiak Special before
Post by: Bjorn on February 14, 2009, 11:42:00 AM
There was a 1959 KS 62" 59# on ebar a coupla' months ago. Trap you and I were looking at it. Gotta be the same one.
Serial number was not written by those nice ladies with the pretty calligraphy.
That extra layer is really well feather in. Lunch box-maybe?
Title: Re: Ever seen this 1959 Kodiak Special before
Post by: d. ward on February 14, 2009, 01:09:00 PM
Thats the one that was on gbay Bjorn..
That is what I was thinking myself.Maybe the bow got returned for credit or something.And one of the workers relamed the back with another layer of glass using one of bears bow presses...bd