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Main Boards => Trad History/Collecting => Topic started by: huntersim on January 24, 2009, 02:12:00 PM
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I have a copy of "The Spencer System of Shooting The Bow" and have been looking for some information on Stanley Spencer. Other than he was converted to archery by Compton and he won the Nation Tournament in 1926 I cant seem to find much about him.
I'm wondering if anyone here knows much about him? Or maybe someone can point me in the right direction? Thanks.
Matt
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Hello Mate, Wade most likey can help u out he should be along any time....
Cody
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Matt - Stanley Spencer was one of the best known archery personalities of the 1920-1940s era. National Archery Association Champion. Mentioned in many articles in YSA and ABR. He was from San Pedro, CA. Has the distinction of being one of the hunters on the first national bowhunt, the 1930 National Jamboree on Lobster Mountain in Oregon. I have several handmade arrows that were used by Bowmen on that Hunt, including one of Spencer's. Arrows are from Roy Case, who also hunted during the Lobster Mountain Jamboree. You had to really want to be a bow hunter in 1930 as most of these guys made all of their own all wooden tackle... The arrows are in a glass case so can not get a good photograph. Will try to get one for you later if you want to see his arrow.
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Thank you guys.
Wade,
now I have a place to start looking for more info to go along with my book, thanks. I'd love to see a photo of the arrow if you get a chance. Your knowledge on the history of archery is amazing to me. BTW, I just read Codys thread about Grumley and I just want to say, i really think you should write a book about him. I know i would certainly buy it. May even be willing to trade a reporo deerslayer for an autographed copy :) Thanks again Wade.
Matt
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Matt - These are six of the handmade wooden arrows used during the 1930 Lobster Mountain Hunt. The second one down is Stanley Spencer's. The other five arrows were made by other well known 1930s Archery Personalities. Does anyone know who?
Thought we might have a little fun if there are any old wooden arrow collectors out there…
On the image, I removed the other names on the arrows, then numbered each arrow 1 to 6 …
The first person to correctly identity each arrow correctly, will receive one original Roy Case Broadhead from me.
For each arrow you identify incorrectly, you will have to explain your reasoning for your “guess”, before your future attempts to correctly identify an arrow will be eligible for consideration…
When Trad Gang members correctly identify each bowman who made and used the other five arrows, I will load of a photograph of more old arrows used on the 1930 Lobster Mountain Hunt.
(http://members.cox.net/wadephillips/LOBSTER2.JPG)
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Ok I will make a fool of myself,I've never had a problem doing that before...5&6 do a little maybe just a little do kind of look just a tiny bit like something Kore may have used.The reasoning behind my guess is because I have seen all 3 type broadheads and arrow shafts Kore built or shot or used.I had the opertuitey to handle those items first hand but several years ago and do kind of recall Kore arrows with that type fletch more so on number 6 then 5 I would say...bd
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BowDoc - Number 5 is one of Kore's arrows. Congratulations. I will send you a Roy Case Broadhead. It will be in the mail Monday.
BowDoc - Number 6 is not one of Kore's arrows... Sorry. I will give you a hint... it was made a bowman in a neighboring state...
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Great Arrows Wade.
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You know how it is at my age now you really got me guessing.I'am thinking it was to early for Mr StCharles then.I gotta think about this one.bd
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Thanks Wade. The arrows look like they could have been produced last year.
I wouldn't have a clue as to who the arrows belonged to but I'll make a guess. The first one is a Roy Case arrow and number four is a Kore arrow. I'm only guessing number 4 because it looks to be built by the same person as five.
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Matt - Yes, the arrows are in great shape. At the end of the 1930 Lobster Mountain Hunt, the bowmen exchanged arrows as mementos of the hunt. Roy Case was a broadhead collector so he took the broadheads off the arrows and put them in his display, then put the arrows in a box. I got the box after Roy passed away,through another party who lived near Roy. Plain Lucky! Roy had neatly tied the arrows together with sting, the arrows had remained in the box for about 70 years, so they were all very well preserved. With photographs of Roy's broadhead collection identifying each broadhead by the makers name and as a Lobster Mountain head, it is well documented which broadhead was original to each arrow. Over the past several years, it has been a worth while challenge to find and then replace the exact broadhead on each of these historically significant arrows.
Matt - Sorry, #1 is not a Roy Case - What was logic for guessing that?
Matt - Your answer is incomplete for #4, Kore who? What was his last name? I let BowDoc slide on his answer, but if you are just copying BowDoc's answer you will have to add Kore's last name which must be spelled correctly. It is easy to misspell.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/novaln1975/TradGang/kore2.jpg)
Kore X. Xxxxxx at a round of archery golf - Sunrise Meadows, Mt. Rainier National Park,1940.
(I found his full name. Don’t want to ruin Matt’s chance to get that Roy Case Broadhead.)
-Simon
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Dang Wade as soon as this guy I know gets out I mean get back home I will be able to recover a good number of missing items I know you will love to see.Three of Kore's arrows white shaft with red bands around them and three broadheads same lot from several years ago.There is also a side quiver I believe must have been his too as thats where the arrows were.Some great items in storage until his return..bd
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LOL Wade. Yeah i was just riding on Bowdocs coat tails....sorry bowdoc.
Kore T. Duryee. Looks like Simon got it first. And he probably knows much more about him than I do.
Not much logic for #1 other than it was at the top of the photo and he was the one you mentioned getting the arrows from.
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Matt
I’m a complete newbie. I learn as I read these great posts. I searched the net, that’s all. It’s great to learn all this new stuff, the history of American archery is very interesting.
I’ll give a shot on the second one : Ken Wilhelm?
Why? Just because JavelinaHink posted a pic of a similar arrow this morning.
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=14;t=001815;p=1#000007
And found many links http://www.cbhsaa.net/hallfame/bios/kenwilhelm.htm
-Simon
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Found a link for a few videos of the Wilhelm brothers on a great traditional archery site I know called TradGang.com
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=33;t=000003
- Simon
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Simon.......Thanks...it shows him using the darts in a blow tube.....Bill
This should be over on the other one "Walt & Ken Wilhelm gear"
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Wade, wase the #6 arrow one of Chet Stevenson's? Grant
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Oops...
I just re-read Wade’s post and realised that the second arrow is Stanley Spencer's. Can’t be by Ken Wilhelm then...
I bet all these guys are having a good time up there following this thread. I wonder if they have high-speed internet.
-Simon
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Wade I'am gonna spell the one wrong I'am pretty sure but here goes...Dr.Cashis Stialles would be arrow number 3...Ok my reasoning was he was a big player back then too and hung out with some of the boys.
One arrow may have also been Potter or McQuiry..they was hanging around too.
How about some new rules ? each time I guess correct you apply my prize towards that Bear Giant.You know like at the carny I win 5 times qupie dolls in a row I get the big dog.Like 5 Cases heads = 1 giant..OK I just had to try that..bd
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Matt - Even though BowDoc helped you and Simon posted Kore's photograph before your answer, will send you a Roy Case Broadhead.
Simon - Will also send you a Roy Case Broadhead for your work on posting the Kore Duryee photograph and being such a gentleman, to give Matt a chance.
Simon - Sorry, no Walt Wilhelm arrow in the photograph.
BowDoc - I believe I have one of the matching arrows of Kore's that you mentioned with white shaft and with red bands. The broadhead is pictured on Page K-7-1 in "Broadheads 1871-1971 Identification and Rarity Guide, Second Edition" as one of 4 different styles of Kore's broadheads.
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Grant - Sorry #6 is not a Chet Stevenson. However, that was a very good try as Chet cut his feathers very close to shape of #6
BowDoc - Sorry, #3 is not a "Dr.Cashis Stialles" (I'm going to save that spelling!) nor is there a correctly spelled Cassius Styles arrow. His broadheads are shown on page C-20 in the Second Edition.
BowDoc - Sorry again no "Potter or McQuiry". Correctly spelled Macquarrie. The company was also known as POMAC.
BowDoc - Yes, we may have to make some rules, but not as you suggest... how about 1 - misspelled names count against correct identifications... 2 - or better yet for each incorrect guess, you have to do a FREE Bow Refinish for me...
I'm willing to set up some type of wager if you are...
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Wade,
thank you for your generosity but i wouldn't think of it. Like i said, Simon got it first. I think it should go to him. I admittedly didnt know his name and had to look it up. I'm having fun just learning everything from this thread....and it's actually been quite a bit.
Simon, thanks for the links. Like you, Im a complete newbie at this. I think archery from that era is fascinating.
Matt
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Oh nooooo! Now I’m starting to collect broadheads!
Very generous of you Mr. Phillips. I’ll have to do more research about Roy Case. Thanks for all the priceless information.
-Simon
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#6 Glenn St. Charles
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Thats horse crap Wade.I was just testing you this time to see if you could spell them correctly and you did OK.
So no deal on the new rules forget that stuff.I don't want to win no silly old Bear Giant anyhow we gotta go back to the old rules....bd
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Can you tell me more about Potter and Maquarrie of Oakland ca.?
I have a dozen tapered footed arrows by them, they are beautiful.
Kurt
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wadde - Sorry #6 is not a St. Charles. What made you think that it was a St. Charles?
Simon - Welcome to the crazy world of collecting broadheads...
Matt - As Art Young said "Real Sportsmanship is Fair Play". You are a Real Sportsman.
OK, all you collectors of old wooden arrows...
We still need the correct identity for 1, 3, 6...
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BowDoc - OK, Old Rules, no more spelling tests no Bear Giant for you, unless you get that UFO Giant.
Kurt - What do you want to know about John T. Potter and Harold Macquarrie?
Are your arrows ink stamped or branded? I ask because...
I have one of their metal tipped horn nock bows that is ink stamped on the rawhide back "Potter & Macquarrie Oakland".
I also have some of their arrows that are branded "POMAC" into the wood.
Are you trading any of the arrow off?
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hey bd I sent you a PM.
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I thought I had it pegged, Wade. I'd forgotten how many unique feather shapes were around in those days,lol. Your posts should get archived as "American Archery-101." Thanks, Grant
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Wade,
Most these where at the shoot I think, #3 though is made like Art Young arrow he made for Paul Klopsteg. Just guessing as to the order. #1 Looked alittle like the two arrows I sent you I had, maybe. Well there it is(ref.your book)
(1) Harry Hobson
(2) Stanley Spencer
(3) Erie Stanley Gardner
(4) Grover Gouthier
(5) Kore Duryee
(6) RE West
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Here's a list "well known" who attended. Take your pick from those left. :)
Roy Case
Dusty Roberts
Earle S. Gardner
Kore Duryee
Dr. Cathey
Homer Prouty
Harry Hobson
B.G. Thompson
J.E. Davis
Earl Ulrich
Grover Gouthier
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JavelinaHink - Bill - The three left to identify correctly are 1, 3, 6.
Bill - I am sorry to report that you guessed wrong on all three.
Liquid Amber - Cliff - You gave everyone the most obvious answers... Can you identify which arrow goes with which name? How is your health?
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Wade which arrow's are we trying to name. 1,2,3,4,5,&6 ??? let me know which one's and I will have a go at it...
Cody
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Wade
What did John and Harold do? I would guess they were boyers now,but had never heard of them till today.
They did beautiful work, thats for sure.
Do you have a picture of the "metal tipped horn nock bow" handy?
Mine are ink stamped,with their full name, they came with a matching dozen, ink stamped Ben Pearson tapered footed arrows.
From a Pasadena Roving Archer's estate sale.
Looks like the same arrowsmith? maker? made both dozen.
I would be happy to trade an arrow for an arrow,
since I doubt the giant is on the table.
If you pm me your email address, I will send you pictures.
Kurt
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Cody – 1 – 3 – 6 – are yet to be identified. I believe this is where we stand right now…
(1)
(2) Stanley Spencer – Identified when photograph was posted
(3)
(4) Kore Duryee – Identified by Simon with an assist from Matt & BowDoc
(5) Kore Duryee – Identified by BowDoc
(6)
If you are incorrect, you have to tell us what your logic was for your “guess”
Good Luck…
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BG THOMPSON????
Did he make bows??
I passed on a wood bow/sinew backed?. I believe was signed, what I thought said Big Thompson might have been B.G., at the same sale, I'd never heard of him either till today.
Kurt
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Kurt - John and Harold owned a neat little archery shop. They and their company POMAC were very well known in the archery community during the 1930s and 1940s. They handled a full line of tackle, bows, arrows, quivers, and broadheads of their own manufacture. I have some of the 1930s and 1940s catalogs. In 1935, POMAC was larger than Bear, but then a lot of other archery companies were larger than Bear.
Haven't been able to get my email for 3 days, and access to the server to load photographs is sporadic. Will get an image of the POMAC bow loaded within the next day or two for sure. Guess I will have to set up the PM, as I do not use it...
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I will have a go at this.
number 1,Roy Case
Number 3,Earl Ulrich
Number 6,Earle S. Gardner
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Wade Didn't Earle Have an archery shop in PA. I was thinkin he owned an archery shop..
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Cody - You guessed two wrong...
However, you got one correct.
You have to tell us your logic for each of your two incorrect guesses...
But do you know which two are wrong and which one is correct ???
Are you are simply guessing off Cliff's list?
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Wade I am thinkin I got Earl arrow,
I did use Cliff's list as a guide. I realy did think about the arrows and if I have seen them before.
Roy case i was thinkinn had short feather's on his arrows from the many pics I have seen of His. I can be wrong. Number 6 I was thinkin that it my have been on of his early arrows. I know u will tell which one I got. ( I hope ) what did I win LOL. 25% off the neXt B.H I buy from U.
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Kurt - BG THOMPSON was one of the all time great old bowmen. One of the few bowmen who killed a bear with a bow during the 1920s. He was the money behind YSA and contributed many written articles.
I would never pass on a signed BG Thompson bow. It is far easier to find the money to buy a rare bow than find another opportunity to buy a bow like that.
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Here is Roy Case holding an arrow. I have no idea if the arrow is his or not... He is with Clark Gallup, artist and, visibly, broadhead collector.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/novaln1975/TradGang/2.jpg)
-Simon
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Simon - Nice photograph of Roy & Clark in Roy's basement. Roy was one of the nicest and most generous old bowmen I ever met. When I visited him 26 years ago, he gave me several of his broadheads and personal arrows.
Can anyone match up where each of the broadheads are in this photograph that match up to the arrows that have been identified?
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Cody – You identified Earl’s arrow correctly as #3. I will send you a Roy Case Broadhead.
Still need to identify 1 and 6…
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(2) Stanley Spencer – Identified when photograph was posted
(3) Earl Ulrich – Identified by Cody with assist from names on Cliff’s List of Lobster Mt. Bowmen
(4) Kore Duryee – Identified by Simon with an assist from Matt & BowDoc
(5) Kore Duryee – Identified by BowDoc
(6)
Tell us your logic if you are guessing and can not positively identify the arrow.
Good Luck…
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A little trivia on Earl Ulrich
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/novaln1975/TradGang/bearspecial.jpg)
Bear Archery (1982) Bear "Special Limited Numbered Edition" Take Down. Autographed by Fred Bear (1980)
Includes 22 karat gold plated limb mounts, clear glass and custom display box.The limbs are Yew wood with clear glass. The Yew for these bows was cut and seasoned by Earl Ulrich, at age 91. Earl selected Yew for bows all his life in the high mountains of Oregon The riser is made of Brazilian Rosewood with decorative fiberglas tips.
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Wade
Your email is down and my photo bucket is full,sounds like the pictures will have to wait.The arrows are not going anywhere soon.
I bought 3 bows, 2 Barr's ,one unknown long bow and the footed arrows,+ 6 Kittredge arrows that have been verified and signed by Doug (Thanks Tom Phillips), left a few wood bows behind.
She was in her 90's,and was a very active archer from the late 1930's on, from what I was told.
If I can find his email(grandson's),I will find out if the bows are still in the shed and will let you know.(I was the only person who responded to the add)
I am not sure it was a BG Thomson, but sounds like something to look into.
Rarities,
Yes, if you know the value of something, it is easier to pull your wallet out, not so easy if it turns out its some guy, named Big Thompson who sold home made bows and weight lifting equip.
Sorry for hijacking this thread, as you can tell I am unaware of a large part of our archery heritage.
Kurt
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Gee's Clark was a young buck in that pic huh ? I'am going with Harry Hobson for number 6.Reasoning for my guess...Hobson also had a fly fishing shop in Oregon and arrow number 6 has a bit of a fancy cresting for its time..seems a guy who tied fishing flies may get a little fancy with his aoorws too.bd
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great thread guys i am learning alot.
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BowDoc – Sorry #6 is not a Harry Hobson arrow.
Yes Clark was young and very SKINNY in that photgraph. I hunted with him back then and know first hand that he was also in great shape. He ran around through the woods, over and under fallen trees with the dexterity of a chipmunk.
Hobson’s handmade arrows were not really fancy or much different for their time. I have several Hobson arrows including some with his die stamped broadheads as shown on page H-28 in “Broadheads 1871-1971 Identification & Rarity Guide, Second Edition”. In a later post it may be a good idea to include some of Hobson’s arrows to see if someone can identify them. Thanks for the idea BowDoc.
Yes Harry owned “Hobson’s Fishing Rod Shop” in Oregon. I picked up this Hobson self nock, yew longbow from a fellow in Oregon. Harry printed his company logo above and below this unique “Fly Fishing Rod Style Wrapped Grip”.
Ever seen a “Painted On” strike plate before?
(http://members.cox.net/wadephillips/HOBSON.JPG)
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Thats a great bow Wade.If you fish hunt or are into old archery tackle and live out this way sooner or later Hobson's name will surface.Please note the grip on his bow fly wrapping type and you will see where I came up with idea about his arrow and not to mention someone listed his name made my think...bd
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BowDoc - The name really makes that little bow. Without the name the bow would just your average tomato stake, with some unusual turquoise thread wrapped grip. Hobson must have had a lot of that turquoise thread.
Some of his arrows have a nice flowery "Hobson" signature. Hobson's signature on this little bow would have made it really nice.
Anyone have a Signed Hobson Bow?
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Would the first arrow be a Fred Bear arrow? I feel kind of stupid suggesting it’s Fred’s but in the following pic, the arrow looks like the first one. Mr. Bear was born in 1902 and I read that he did not start bowhunting until he was 29, that would be in the early 1930s. Could he have been such a quick learner to go hunting with all these future Hall Of Famers at such an early stage of his bowhunting career? I’m still doing my best to find the missing owners. Not easy.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/novaln1975/TradGang/image383.jpg)
-Simon
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Simon - Sorry #1 is not a Fred Bear.
Actually Fred was not at the 1930 Lobster Mt Jamboree.
I thought there might be more old wooden arrow collectors out there who would know the makers...
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Does it look like Hobson might have been doing the grip with silk thread ? One of the few guy's I knew that had a Hobson bow was Hayden.Not sure if he still has it or not...bd
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In the photo- bottom case top row far left looks like one of the Kore heads. That row also may have a Spencer head or two.
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Wade would Number one be one of Howard Hill 's Arrow ?
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OK Wade, one more guess....and only a guess. #6-Roy Case. I'm only guessing Roy Case because up to this point I dont believe you have denied one of his arrows are among the others in the photo.
Thanks again for this Wade. I suspect a lot of people have been able to learn quite a bit. And it's certainly added some perspective to my little book.
Matt
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Wade-ster old buddy what's say you up the first prize to a free copy of all the broadhead guides you did all together everything signed by you..reading something like to my good friend bowdoc from your bestest buddy Wade ???
I only got that crappy old black and white photo copy of add's and it ai'nt got nothing hardly in it well not much anyhow.
Besides I need the guide so if I find some rare broadheads I can sell them to well you know my good buddy...your bestest buddy bowdoc
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I'm dong well Wade. Four years cancer free and still climbing trees. :)
I have all or most of Wades' broadhead books and they contain more than just broadheads. A wonderfull source on our history and though I don't collect broadheads, find myself referring to the books on a regular basis.
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wadde – Sorry, bottom case top row is not one of Kore’s heads. Sorry again but can not consider your statement “That row also may have a Spencer head or two” to be an accurate identification.
Cody – Sorry #1 is not a Howard Hill arrow
Matt - Sorry #6 is not a Roy Case Arrow
Cliff - Glad to hear that you are doing well.
BowDoc – There is no first prize, sorry, this is not a Beauty Pageant...
There are only 5 Roy Case Broadheads, one for correctly identifying each of the five unidentified arrows from the 1930 Lobster Mt Jamboree… Two remain to the correctly identified, 1 & 6
If you want a set of three books, I’d be happy to swap them to you on a deal for a bow refinish… Provided of course that I would get the refinished bow back by May 1, 2009…
You may not realize it, but just in the “1871-1971” book there is over 5,000 hours of work, that is 2-1/2 man years at 40 hour weeks… Learning everything in that book alone, is the equivalent of earning the college degree, MBH (Master of Broadhead History).
Or here is a better swap, you go pick up that UFO Bear Giant and send it to me to keep, in trade, if it is an original, I will send you the books plus the refinish bow (Kodiak), and you can just keep the bow to refinish, sell or use. Offer not valid for that BowDoc Giant Round Hole…
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Restoration work for a set of the BH books ? only if you sign them for me.
As for the Giant should I ever get my hands on it..I was kind of thinking of sending my grandson to college with the sale of that one...bd
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This thread cannot end like this ...
Still need to identify 1 and 6…
(1)
(2) Stanley Spencer – Identified when photograph was posted
(3) Earl Ulrich – Identified by Cody with assist from names on Cliff’s List of Lobster Mt. Bowmen
(4) Kore Duryee – Identified by Simon with an assist from Matt & BowDoc
(5) Kore Duryee – Identified by BowDoc
(6)
-Simon
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Here's some of the lesser known attendees.
L.T. Coke
Tom Belshaw
S.B.Hayden
Mrs. Ralph West
J.J. Hensley
J.H. McCaughan
R.N. Underwood
Winnie Kennedy
Mrs. Ullrich
John Stone
L.L. Daily and Lowell Eddy wrecked on the way and had to return home.
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Sort of figured more Trad Grang members were into collecting old arrows and would be able to easy identify these six arrows used on the 1930 Lobster Mt Jamboree… apparently not many guys are into collecting vintage arrows.
Simon – Yes, the thread can not end this way… so guess we’ll have to move it forward…
First, I will disclose the identity of #1, it is a Grover Gouthier arrow. He was Chet Stevenson’s hunting pal. So this is where will stand…
(1) Grover Gouthier – Stumped the entire Traditional History/Collecting Form community…
(2) Stanley Spencer – Identified when photograph was posted
(3) Earl Ulrich – Identified by Cody with assist from names on Cliff’s List of Lobster Mt. Bowmen
(4) Kore Duryee – Identified by Simon with an assist from Matt & BowDoc
(5) Kore Duryee – Identified by BowDoc
(6)
Second, I will give you two names for arrow #6, Homer Prouty or Dr. Cathey…
Sorry, no more guessing at this point…
The only identification that is acceptable is not just a name, but you must post a photograph of another Homer Prouty or Dr. Cathey vintage arrow and submit the pedigree of that arrow, then you must make a comparison of that arrow to arrow #6 to prove your identification is correct.
Because of the additional effort, who ever submits the acceptable identification for arrow #6 will receive TWO different Roy Case broadheads.
Hopefully this will generate some interest in vintage arrows…
If not, the identification will conclude with the entire Trad History/Collecting Form community being STUMPED forever...
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I won't be stumped as you gave away the answer.I feel stupid as I should have know that one.I will keep me comments to myself...I have no arrow to compear it to.But I have delt with 4-5 of his bows over the year.dang dang dang...bd
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Not easy to find pictures when all I have is the net...
Searching for Homer Prouty’s arrow... getting closer...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/novaln1975/TradGang/1936X.jpg)
The picture is from 1936 in oregon at the first pope and young shoot.
l-r, they are earl ullrich, paul unger, grover gouthier, ned meyers, russ jones, homer "pop" prouty, john davis, floyd kelly, and ben "b.g." thompson.
the picture was taken by chet stevenson.
-Simon
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BowDoc - Sorry that you were stumped on Grover Gouthier arrow, lets face everyone else was stumped too. At least you now know what one looks like. The next time a you see some rough old wood arrows at a flea market and pick out a half dozen Grover's arrows, you owe me one for providing you the information.
Simon - Nice photograph, but may prove difficult to make a comparison of that arrow to arrow #6 considering the fletching and cresting is not visible in the photograph ... Keep Searching...
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OK, not enough proof...
This is a pic of a broadhead TG member «Drifter» posted in October 2006. He wanted to know what make it was.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/novaln1975/TradGang/broadhead.jpg)
TG member «rhett134» responded 2 months later with this :
«I have about 10 of these points on original cedar
shafts. Have always wondered who made them. Mine
are in the original shipping carton and came from
Homer Prouty Archery supply ,Portland,Oregan. Nov.
26. Dont know what year,The owner passed a long
time ago.»
So, if we compare the shaft color from the above pic with the #6 arrow, could we deduce that it’s from the same maker?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/novaln1975/TradGang/LOBSTER2-1.jpg)
Not too convincing, I know...
I did find out that Mr. Prouty made «heavy» bows and was a record holder for distance ...
-Simon
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One quick question
Would the other name be Cathey as in Dr. George A. Cathey rather than Cathy?
-Simon
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Simon - The broadhead you posted is an Ace from the decade after the Lobster Mt Jamboree.
Sorry you will have to have a photograph of the feathered end of an arrow to compare to #6.
However, you get extra credit for finding the well disguised omitted "e" in Dr. George A. Cathey, so your one incorrect broadhead guess is pardoned, and you are still eligible to identify the #6 arrow.
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Great history lesson.
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Wade could number six be an Ande Vail arrow ???
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Cody - In my February 05, 2009 01:44 PM Post, I stated...
"...I will give you two names for arrow #6, Homer Prouty or Dr. Cathey…"
"Sorry, no more guessing at this point…"
"The only identification that is acceptable is not just a name, but you must post a photograph of another Homer Prouty or Dr. Cathey vintage arrow and submit the pedigree of that arrow, then you must make a comparison of that arrow to arrow #6 to prove your identification is correct."
So now you have two names for arrow #6, you only need to be learn which is the correct name, then present your proof... No more guessing...