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Title: Order of Value on 59-66 Kodiaks
Post by: Migra Bill on November 17, 2008, 12:56:00 AM
OK- we all know that a bow is worth whatever someone will pay for it. If you were to list the expected value of the Kodiaks from 59-66, would it be chronological? I know the 59 is the most valuable followed by the 60, but what happens after that? Does the trend continue until you get the 66 being worth the least, or does it switch up somewhere?
Title: Re: Order of Value on 59-66 Kodiaks
Post by: alaskabowhunter on November 17, 2008, 03:05:00 AM
value depends on the bow in my opinion, there is no set of rules on value. I have seen 1960 Kodiaks sell for as much, if not more than 1959 Kodiaks for years now.
Title: Re: Order of Value on 59-66 Kodiaks
Post by: d. ward on November 17, 2008, 06:56:00 AM
Yeah I got to say the 1960 would be first too for sure....then the 1959.From that point on kind of your choice...bd
Title: Re: Order of Value on 59-66 Kodiaks
Post by: d. ward on November 17, 2008, 07:38:00 AM
One thought is there were far less 1960 produced then 1959's.Bears 1959 was such a hot seller.They over produced them.Then sold them as overstock until april or may of 1960.With things the way there are right now it would be a tough call.bowdoc
Title: Re: Order of Value on 59-66 Kodiaks
Post by: PAPALAPIN on November 17, 2008, 08:43:00 AM
Different strokes for different folks.

In my opinion.

'63, '64, '60, '62, '61. '59, '65, '66

But then, that's just me.
Title: Re: Order of Value on 59-66 Kodiaks
Post by: d. ward on November 17, 2008, 08:47:00 AM
and then......and then there was the 1961.That stinken bow came in several flavors.Bubinga one piece riser,bubinga two piece riser,bubina three piece riser.Walnut side slabs with bubuinga ibeam.Oh yeah bubinga or walnut with purple heart ibeam...lets see did I mention butternut in place of the walnut for side slabs.Wow I don't know Bill,this one may be a hard one to answer.bd
Title: Re: Order of Value on 59-66 Kodiaks
Post by: PAPALAPIN on November 17, 2008, 08:56:00 AM
It's like pickin' a wife.  What I like and what you like are probably gonna be different.

A lot has to do with chemistry.

Everybody has their own Holy Graille...mine ain't even a Bear.
Title: Re: Order of Value on 59-66 Kodiaks
Post by: d. ward on November 17, 2008, 09:32:00 AM
I would have to say from my point of view as far as value maybe 1960,1959,1962,1961,1964,1963,1965 & 1966..somewhere along those lines.But again pending on who is buying what that day.bd
Title: Re: Order of Value on 59-66 Kodiaks
Post by: bswear on November 17, 2008, 12:16:00 PM
Is a 64" '59 worth less than a same year and condition 60"?
Title: Re: Order of Value on 59-66 Kodiaks
Post by: alaskabowhunter on November 17, 2008, 02:14:00 PM
ok, here is what I think of the whole '59 vs '60 Kodiaks debate. Like Bowdoc mentioned, Bear made a lot more purpleheart site window '59s than they did  all rosewood '60s. These two wood configurations being the most common produced. With that said, obviously there are rarer versions of each which would be more valuable. Factors to consider would be; differences not only in the woods used in the bows( i.e. maple sight windows) ,but also length and poundage being "rarity factors" as well ( i.e. 56 inch versions of each are relatively scarce, as well as high poundage versions too). Here is the bottom line for me, I like bows I can shoot. A 1960 Kodiak with the glass overlays and the shallow cut string grooves are better bows than the 1959 Kodiak with paper marcata overlays and string grooves that are cut deep into the limb cores.... that is why when you refinish a '59 you should replace the overlays with glass on the limb tips. I'm sure Rich and Don can elaborate more on this. For my money, a '60 Kodiak is my preference for a working bow. As a collector, I still think the fact that the laws of supply and demand prevail, there are less 1960s  to choose from, they should have a higher value. (keeping in mind that Bear was also producing the Kodiak Deluxe model in 1960, so fewer regular Kodiaks were born). Just my thoughts...
Title: Re: Order of Value on 59-66 Kodiaks
Post by: TRAP on November 17, 2008, 05:40:00 PM
All this talk about 59s and 60s.....I think I'll just go shoot mine....Cya

Trap
Title: Re: Order of Value on 59-66 Kodiaks
Post by: Migra Bill on November 17, 2008, 05:56:00 PM
Bowdoc-
Sent you a PM
Title: Re: Order of Value on 59-66 Kodiaks
Post by: TRAP on November 17, 2008, 06:27:00 PM
Interesting that the 57 Kodiak didnt make your list Rich.  Reason??

Trap
Title: Re: Order of Value on 59-66 Kodiaks
Post by: d. ward on November 18, 2008, 06:15:00 AM
It was for 1959-1966 he asked about OR else I would have most likely listed the 1957 myself....Thats a great shooting bow.bd