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Main Boards => Trad History/Collecting => Topic started by: Blackhawk on November 03, 2008, 02:42:00 PM

Title: Two Dogleg Designs in 1963
Post by: Blackhawk on November 03, 2008, 02:42:00 PM
I was just taking a look at a Remington XP-100, which is a bolt action handgun that was introduced in 1963.  Folks generally did not like certain things about the gun, especially the "Dogleg" bolt design.

Now stay with me...this is archery related.

In the very same year, 1963, Bear came out with a Kodiak featuring a new "Dogleg" design, and it too was not very popular and was discontinued.

Is this a coincidence with this dogleg design?

Could Remington and Bear both introduce a "Dogleg" in the same year without knowledge of what each other was doing?

I know this may be stretching things, but...

 (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/lwscott/xp100.jpg)

 (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/lwscott/dogleg2.jpg)
Title: Re: Two Dogleg Designs in 1963
Post by: d. ward on November 03, 2008, 03:17:00 PM
Oh yeah,I love it..myself I like the bottom one.I can shoot it better.....bd
Title: Re: Two Dogleg Designs in 1963
Post by: ckruse on November 03, 2008, 05:01:00 PM
Hold on now before we get all X-Files, grassy knoll, conspiracy theoristic, I think I read somewhere that the Dogleg Kodiak was made to replicate the grip angle of the Colt 1911 45 ACP. It's just hard to get that grip safety to work with Bubinga! (really I did read or hear that somewhere- makes sense when you consider the 1911 is one of the most "pointable" designs ever!) CKruse
Title: Re: Two Dogleg Designs in 1963
Post by: 450 marlin on November 03, 2008, 07:16:00 PM
That XP-100 would look good next to my 66 NYLON .22
Title: Re: Two Dogleg Designs in 1963
Post by: d. ward on November 03, 2008, 07:50:00 PM
Whooooops I kind of think all the Kodiaks were disigned from a colt.Check out the side profile of your 1959 Kodiak!!!!! I sold my 45 to buy a bow.....now I wish I had another nice colt 45...I would sell it to buy that Grumley............bowdoc
Title: Re: Two Dogleg Designs in 1963
Post by: Blackhawk on November 03, 2008, 08:17:00 PM
CKruse, this is a job for a trained professional.  

It cannot be coincidence that two of the biggest and most successful manufacturers of guns and bows came out with "doglegs" the SAME year.

Neither design was flawed (even superior in many ways), but circumstances and the buying public dictated their demise much too early.