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Title: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: kibok&ko on October 09, 2011, 04:16:00 PM

I went to the old museum of natural History in Paris and took some pics for the traveling bowhunter , looking at thoses animals i was thinking that you need to be brave to try i only with a bow an arrow !

to begin , Africa


Caffer Caffer

 http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/P1040133.jpg
  http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/P1040132.jpg
  (http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/P1040130.jpg)

 http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/P1040136.jpg

Please resize these they are great pics

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: Over&Under on October 09, 2011, 08:02:00 PM

Slipping an arrow into the goodies would be pretty tough, but can be done with the right setup.

Great pictures!

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: freeman on October 09, 2011, 10:40:00 PM

Damn, those ribs look like a suit of armor.

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: kibok&ko on October 10, 2011, 02:53:00 AM

water Buffalo
 http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/P1040103.jpg
  http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/P1040104.jpg

  http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/P1040106.jpg

Please resize these are very informative

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: kibok&ko on October 10, 2011, 02:59:00 AM

American Bison

 http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/P1040122.jpg

 http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/P1040123.jpg

Please resize there is a lot to be learned here.

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: Keefer on October 10, 2011, 06:00:00 AM

I now know why you need a heavy bow weight and the correct arrow to penatrate a body built like a "Tank"...Man lot's of protection on a Buff...Thanks for sharing those pics to help edjucate those that are able to hunt them...Keefer's <><

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: Keefer on October 10, 2011, 06:06:00 AM

After posting above I went back and looked at those ribs again and never knew Buffs had that center ridge of bones up on the back...Can you imagaine haveing an "All You Can You Rib's Feast" and share a camp meal with about 100 of your tradgang friends over a campfire eating one of those fella's? Now who would you invite for that meal? Keefer's <><

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: piggy on October 10, 2011, 06:22:00 AM

Great post thank you for the pictures

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: Izzy on October 10, 2011, 08:58:00 AM

Thats great, very interesting. I always heard that bison ribs overlap each other. These skeletons seem to disprove that. Even the African and Asian appear to have a healthy space between them. Thanks for posting.

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: isand on October 10, 2011, 11:52:00 AM

That is col thanks for the pictures.

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: Margly on October 10, 2011, 02:28:00 PM

That was really informstive and did give a good look at what you up against bowhunting these "tanks"

Thanks for sharing!

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on October 10, 2011, 04:52:00 PM

Thank you for taking the time to share them. Most interesting.

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: zipper bowss on October 10, 2011, 07:21:00 PM

Thanks for sharing these pictures.VERY COOL!
I may be wrong but I believe the bison to be a cow or young bull.Although I am no bison expert.I do wish I had taken pictures of the carcus of the cow I killed.
Again great pictures!They realy show how massive those Cape and Water Buffalo are.
Bill

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: Blaino on October 10, 2011, 07:45:00 PM

Awesome! Those pictures confirm my amazement of how a well places arrow will kill the biggest and baddest animals on Earth.

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: cacciatore on October 11, 2011, 03:10:00 AM

Thanks for sharing David,very interesting!

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Post by: SportHunter on October 11, 2011, 02:38:00 PM

Great pictures, thanks!

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: tradtusker on October 16, 2011, 08:29:00 AM

Interesting as always i love this kind of thing. Thanks for putting up the pics

 The Cape buff is done well and from my experience its accurate.  

The Water buff is good but it is not totally accurate if you have a closer look at the pics you will see there are 2 Water buff there, the one in the background is much more accurate, the rib spacing on one photographed is not correct, they are not that far apart.

As for the Bison it looks like a younger animal or female, but non the less its clear to see its just not in the same ball park as the 2 Buffalo.

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: tradtusker on October 16, 2011, 08:39:00 AM

thought id add a few other pics for anyone interested.

These are from a Mature Water Buffalo Bull

Shoulder and the 3 ribs you are most likely to hit

   (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h101/tradtusker/IMG_1367.jpg)

   (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h101/tradtusker/IMG_1369.jpg)

Note the few holes in the Shoulder Blade, those where from testing the new VPA Penetrator 2 blades, yip through it like butter and still sharp. Also Note if you hit a live animal in that shoulder blade you screwed up     :readit:      :help:

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: tradtusker on October 16, 2011, 08:49:00 AM

Side profile and thickness of the middle Rib at the height a good shot would hit  

 (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h101/tradtusker/IMG_1372.jpg)

good quality head, heavy arrow and well tuned set-up will punch through this even if you broadhead hits the rib horizontal and dead center.

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: tradtusker on October 16, 2011, 08:54:00 AM

here's a look at your slight and medium quartering away angle. I strongly advise my clients against this shot, the probability of deflection is very very high. Iv seen too many a Bull lost and wounded as a result of that shot.
   (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h101/tradtusker/IMG_1378.jpg)

  (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h101/tradtusker/IMG_1377.jpg)

perfectly Broadside or hard quartering is the shot.

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: tradtusker on October 16, 2011, 09:01:00 AM

in the field
 (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h101/tradtusker/IMG_0927.jpg)

last but not least have a look at the size of the Engine block on these big guys

 (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h101/tradtusker/IMG_0928-1.jpg)

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: kibok&ko on October 16, 2011, 02:16:00 PM

Great addition from the field !

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: zipper bowss on October 16, 2011, 06:59:00 PM

Great additons, Andy!  :thumbsup:  
Bill

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: hardtimes on October 16, 2011, 07:16:00 PM

Thats cool. Thanks for sharing the photos for comparison.

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: straitera on November 07, 2011, 11:06:00 AM

Way excellent!! Never knew buff ribs were that close together. Good field work Andy. Maybe I'll get a chance to go one day? Thanks

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: stickgunner on November 12, 2011, 11:05:00 AM

Way cool ! Now I know what I up against  in June. Great post.

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: ozy clint on December 24, 2011, 09:39:00 PM

compared to buff those bison have toothpicks for ribs.

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: LONGSTYKES on January 27, 2012, 08:06:00 AM

Thanks, Awesome pics. Great to see their bone structure. Boy they are some heavy duty animals.

Don

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: Stickbow on January 27, 2012, 08:44:00 AM

WOW! Thats awesome stuff........thanks for posting it.

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: BowHunterGA on January 27, 2012, 10:33:00 AM

Wow! Most impressive. I have just the bow for such a task on its way. Maybe one day I will get to go. Won't need to use a bow like this for whitetails unless they start living in bunkers!!!!!!

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: Gen273 on January 27, 2012, 12:00:00 PM

All I can say is WOW

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: stujay on January 27, 2012, 02:30:00 PM

Real eye opener for sure

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: ti-guy on January 28, 2012, 11:04:00 PM

They dont have rib cage,they have rib bunker!!!

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: Keefer on January 29, 2012, 10:57:00 AM

WOW, one could eat a week just off the heart...

Title: Re: skeleton of Buffalo, African, Australian, American
Post by: 187BOWHUNTER on April 03, 2012, 09:59:00 PM

the Cape buff looks narley! armored even!