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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Rabbit Stew on November 24, 2007, 08:40:00 PM
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Okay heres my rabbit hunting set up for this year. 45# bear grizzly recurve with some heavy orange ramin wood arrows tipped with field points. Just wondering will field points kill a rabbit quickly and efficently? They are kinda my only choice as they are glued on. I will be shooting the rabbits in the chest area. Thanks
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Try screwing a wingnut on the end of that arrow, and sharpening the edges of it. Alot, ALOT, deadlier than a field point. Field points really aren't for use on animals, since they just seem to push flesh outta the way and casue minor tissue damage...
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Also just mentioning, I have a couple carbon arrows with screwed in hex heads but ive always been worried that these will bounce off and just wound the rabbit due to my 45 poundage.
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Originally posted by Rabbit Stew:
Also just mentioning, I have a couple carbon arrows with screwed in hex heads but ive always been worried that these will bounce off and just wound the rabbit due to my 45 poundage.
It's not a problem. They'll work great.
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Really? Hmm maybe ill give them a shot. How far will they penetarte in a shot just behind the shoulder?
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field points work great for head shots, i have taken many that way... have not tried the wing nut yet, but will. I still like the judo points though.
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I'd trust hex heads on a lot less poundage than that. I've been witness to what they can do to rabbits out of a 35 pound recurve. 45 should be plenty...
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The best bet it to use the Hex head.
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Ace Hex heads or Broadheads....those two are the best I've seen at HIGH percentage of kills.
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I for got to add if you send me your address PM it to me .
I will try and send you some 38 brass shell for your arrows they will fit over a 11/32 and 3/8 arrows. If you want to play with them I will send you some let me know.
Cody
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I am with Cody.Brass shells work great.And if you live next to a shooting range,all you need free.
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Judo's, hex blunts, or just blunts. Rabbits are not the toughest animal in the field if hit in the vitals or head. I myself would not use field points on any animal unless it was backed up with a washer or something to deliver some shock.
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Those hex heads aren't cheap but man, do they beat the snot out of stuff. My son is shooting a 45# KMag and his hex heads hit plenty hard.
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ace hex blunts are very good! used them in ozz on the small game and they are tough and kill.
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I put in an annual bunny hunt and about 40-50 Trad-gangers attend, judos are a problem as they catch brush and twigs on the way through to a rabbit and cause misses, hex heads and blunts are great and the wing-nut is pretty good, but again catches brush. Terry has the real ticket, Broadheads but they are not allowed at my hunt due to dogs and people in close proximity. Hunting with one or two guys, broadheads are the way to go. Our bunnies(Eastern Cottontails) in NY are very tough and I have seen them take 2-3 arrows to kill them. I myself have found I really like a plain old blunt as the hex heads are pricey. Shawn
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I also like the 38 Brass. It gives faster arrow flight (Light weight) Hits hard. Feild points are not at all good for rabbits(been there done that)I also have cheap broad heads for when I hunt alone but have not killed any rabbits with them yet. DON'T USE FEILDPOINTS! You will be sorry. J.Michael
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Originally posted by Rabbit Stew:
Really? Hmm maybe ill give them a shot. How far will they penetarte in a shot just behind the shoulder?
Don't be surprised if you end up putting that Hex Head clean through them. Cottontails are about as difficult to shoot through as a paper bag, which is to say, they're quite fragile.
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I do not know what bunnies Jason is shooting, but I have seen them take a hex head from an 80# great Plains and it only penetrate halfway and the bunny roll over and keep going(right Larry and Gregg)also Guru nail one with his KS 63#s and 650 grain arrow, direct hit mid-body and the rabbit drag the arrow for a long ways. Shawn
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Also to point out these arent jackrabbits or anythingt, they are cottontails in the new brunswick (eastern canada) region of the world.
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Originally posted by Rabbit Stew:
How far will they penetarte in a shot just behind the shoulder?
Dunno, but I capped one behind the right ear last year (from pretty close) and it went all the way through the skull and out the other side. The blood trail was... short. :-D
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Originally posted by Shawn Leonard:
I do not know what bunnies Jason is shooting, but I have seen them take a hex head from an 80# great Plains and it only penetrate halfway and the bunny roll over and keep going(right Larry and Gregg)also Guru nail one with his KS 63#s and 650 grain arrow, direct hit mid-body and the rabbit drag the arrow for a long ways. Shawn
Shawn,
I'm not sure what to say. I blow right through fox and gray squirrel with Hex Heads and well-tuned carbons all the time. Took a gray squirrel straight away with one last year and he looked like a squirel-kabob. Broadside cottontails barely slow them down, but they sure do a ton of damage going through.
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If you can safely do it..sharp broadheads are the best I've seen...judo's are probably the worst. Although I have not yet tried them on a rabbit, I really like the hex heads on a heavy arrow.
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We very seldom at myhunt get pass thrus. We killed 16 last year and we may of had 2 pass thrus. Gregg who I spoke of in my other post is a big dude and shoots 80# bows, this year he did the rabbit kabob as you said, but again we do not get many passthrus. Shawn
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Stop hunting cottontails next to army bases where they have access to flak jackets. I saw Tamure put a rubber blunt thru a rabbit, Traxx boings them with hex headss and i favor judos. hit them in the chest or head and they are yours. I have not seen a decent hit rabbit bounce an arrow. I like the idea of using broadheads, too, but wouldn't want to look for them in the brush when I missed-and i miss a lot more than I hit!
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Ive had complete blowthroughs,with hex heads.In fact,with one of em,if i hadnt heard that loud THWOP,id have thought i completely missed em.Rabbit ran bout 15 ft and died.Whent right through the heart.I was shootin 52 lbs and a Goldtip arrow.
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yup 38 cal brass good bunny food :thumbsup:
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I like the job that hex heads do but they tend to brake the tip off your arrow if you miss and hit something hard. I used judo's at last years bunny hunt and even managed to kill a rabbit with one, they snag up on the brush so much i won't use then this year. I'm going with the run of the mill blunt to get the job done on the bunnies this year, theres a couple running around in the yard, that look like they want to be stew :bigsmyl:
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Shawn---those must be some TOUGH critters over there. I consistently drive a judo on a flu-flu clean thru these blacktail jackrabbits we have--regardless of where I hit them.
I like those dome-shaped blunts you get at the video archery range, too.
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Judos are deadly in the open, but do hang up in thick cover. I made some good heads by filing off the very front of a field tip. Start by finding some washers with the right size hole to match the shank on your field tips. I file enough point off to almost equal in weight what you are adding with the washer. I think mine were 15 grains. I then file a cross into the flattened tip. Make sure your washers aren't too big in diameter. Just the standard ones work fine. Works awesome and they are cheap!
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The last three rabbits I've taken were all with different heads (judo, hex head and .38 shell casing) and I pinned them to the ground in each case. I think the cases where the rabbit can roll with the punch, so to speak, are where we don't see penetration.
Any shot angle that puts the rabbit between the arrow and a portion of the ground and I seem to get good penetration. Same with treerats. Shots where they are moving and I really knock 'em and get 'em tumbling and I don't see the penetration.
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In our town years ago here was a High Precision plant, they made three blade broadheads. The metal was so soft you could put teeth marks in it. I had been given a couple dozen some time back, when used with just a step filed into them they make great bunny stoppers. I think MA3s and Bodkins would work the same. Anyway it does my heart good to hear folks taking bunnies and bows seriously, because it makes for serious fun.