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Main Boards => The Shooters FORM Board => Topic started by: DanielB89 on March 24, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
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Do any of you ever get callouses from shooting? If so, on which finger?
The reason I am asking is because I have been trying to train for the archery tournament season and I have developed a callous on the bottom of my ring finger. I was wondering if this is normal, or do I have a bad habit that needs to be fixed?
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I have always had one on that finger too, so seems normal to me. Not saying that I don't have a form issue though. Will be watching to say what others say.
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I have one on the inside corner of my index finger. I'm not sure why i think the string rubs a little more there since i use a tab.
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I have one on my ring finger as well... I use my wife's emery board to sand it down when it gets built up and hard.
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Thats how you know that you are shooting enough . :goldtooth:
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Probably some will say it's from bad release,that is too much pressure on the ring finger. Iv' developed quite a build up of calloused skin on my ring finger.I have tried shooting with more pressure on my other two fingers, but it just doesn't work for me. Maybe this is more common than we think among us trad shooters. At any rate, It works for me and the calloused skin has been earned. I consider myself a fair shot even with my disability. If your shooting well.......callous on!!! :D PS Once your finger callouses more it won't bother you at all!
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Originally posted by Knawbone:
Probably some will say it's from bad release,that is too much pressure on the ring finger. Iv' developed quite a build up of calloused skin on my ring finger.I have tried shooting with more pressure on my other two fingers, but it just doesn't work for me. Maybe this is more common than we think among us trad shooters. At any rate, It works for me and the calloused skin has been earned. I consider myself a fair shot even with my disability. If your shooting well.......callous on!!! :D PS Once your finger callouses more it won't bother you at all!
I feel like the more mine gets calloused, the worse it hurts.
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Without seeing you shoot it's hard to tell. Could be high elbow, could be a bow too short for you (string pinch), could be you're shooting a 90# bow with a thin glove.
Then again, I have them on both sides of my ring finger and the inside of my index finger. Shooting a 56" bow drawn to 30" really brought them out. And my ring finger has lots of scar tissue from being reattached just past the last joint. That finger tip is numb and that messed up my shooting for some time. Two years later I'm still working to get it all back.
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Mine are on the pad of my ring finger and next to my fingernail on my index finger.
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I agree with stumpkiller in that it is hard to tell without seeing you shoot. For me when I had a callous on my ring finger it was because my elbow was too high. Now I have just a small one on my index finger,
Kevin
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I don't get calluses anymore. My fingers hurt for maybe 6 months after I got back into traditional 5 years ago but not now. It's my feeling that if you have finger pain, calluses, etc. that there is something in your form that isn't right, your bow is causing finger pinch, and/or your finger protection is not adequate. I do know that a high string elbow will cause a big problem with your ring finger, as will a cupped string hand, being overbowed, etc.
I shoot modified Wilson tabs and all my bows are 66" long and drawn to 28".
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I'm not over bowed(as my bow is only #53). I may have a high shoulder..
Here are a few videos of me shooting in an attempt to critique myself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55pzi3kOub4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe9MPFSc2A8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQMnQKI0zZk&list=UUqvt6ATIIVEfGr43Tmn84rA
If you have any tips, please let me know.
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Daniel,
All your videos show up as "private" so can't help until you change settings.
Arne
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Arne,
should be fixed now.
Are you also on tradgeeks?
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Yep
Arne
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Daniel,
I really can't see anything from these videos that might be causing the callus. Shooting split finger try to maintain 40% weight on the index finger, 50% on the middle finger and only about 10% on the ring finger. OR 3 under for that matter.
A callus on the BOTTOM of your ring finger often is letting the ring finger pick up too much weight with too much tension in the wrist ( or string/finger pinch but it doesn't appear you have that). Relax the wrist and maintain the most weight on the index and middle finger and see if that helps.
Arne
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Thanks Arne. I figured you were the same one. I am DanBinkley on there.
I will try that to distribute the weight better in my next practice sessions.
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Frankly my shooting fingers have calluses all over them up to the first crease in my finger. I like to believe my glove prevents any pain from occuring.
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I used to have a really sever callus on the bottom of my ring finger as well. An older and much more experienced/accurate traditional archer told me my hands were not inline. When i made it a point to keep my string hand in line with my bow hand on every shot the callus went away and my shooting improved.
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I just read an article about a sore ring finger ken beck of black widow says string torque . Not keeping the string hand verticle. In other words when you draw your hand back to your face the natural position for your hand is the back of your hand turned up. It's not natural to keep it verticle or the correct way.
Just something to check ;)
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I picked up a new set of Byron Ferguson Heavy Hunters and was bare shaft testing them over the weekend. I ended up shooting more than 3 times the amount I normally shoot and by the end of the day I had a sore spot on the bottom tip of my ring finger. I use a fairly thin 3 fingered glove but after reading the above post I'm confused on just what is the correct position of my hand. Since I cant my 66 inch Sky Longbow I think I may be pulling back with my hand and fingers at the wrong angle to the bows cant. Could this be why my ring finger is sore at the tip at the bottom?
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William,
Yes that is a possibility. If you can, draw in front of a mirror, or have someone video or take a picture of you at full draw. Then look at the fingers and string. Do you have a twist in the string?
IF your hand, wrist and forearm are relaxed, the string should be straight (no twist) and you will get a better release. Let the bow line you up, do not try to force the bow or string.
Arne
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No callouses here, I shoot every day with a thin Damascus glove. I use a deep hook on the string and a very relaxed hand & wrist, letting the bow weight straighten everything out. You gents with the callous on your ring fingers, I will bet that at full draw the elbow of your drawing arm will be out of alignment and in the up position. Look at moebow's picture, that's how it should look. Callouses mean there is too much torque on the string somewhere. See moebow's videos they were and are of great help to me.
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Didn't read all the responses...but you could have your elbow too high...or you could also be torquing the string.
I'll try and watch the videos and see what I can see.
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1st vid....watch your string hand rotate 'bottom out' during the draw...looks like you are torquing.
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Well I have read this post and discussion and gained quite a bit of insight from it. Number one my drawing elbow was to high because of incorrect pressure on my fingers on my drawing hand. So I went out just now and tried shooting the way Moebow (Arne) recommended as did Terry with approximately 50% of the weight on my middle finger 40% on my index finger and only 10% on my ring finger. My shooting improved greatly and I was able to get consistent straight flight with bare shafts. I am not completely all the way to the 50-40-10 pressure split so to speak I don't think especially after one shooting session and it still feels a little funny just because it's new to me but I could see a vast improvement in my release, follow through, and no more high elbow either. Thanks for the wisdom guys!
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Terry, what is a good way to keep from torquing the string and rotating the drawing hand bottom out as one comes to full draw. I watched myself draw today in front of a mirror and saw myself doing this. I would like to know a way to keep from doing it.
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Originally posted by Mr. fingers:
I just read an article about a sore ring finger ken beck of black widow says string torque . Not keeping the string hand verticle. In other words when you draw your hand back to your face the natural position for your hand is the back of your hand turned up. It's not natural to keep it verticle or the correct way.
Just something to check ;)
Yep. Good advice. My torqueing sure was minimized when I started watching for this.
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What about a callous on your nose ? Does that count for something?
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Originally posted by Chain2:
What about a callous on your nose ? Does that count for something?
lol, I sometimes hit my nose since I went to 3 under. Wish it was calloused instead of red and sore when that happens.
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crunch,
Don't lay you head over to the string at full draw. Set your head then draw to your face, hold your head still, don't "go to get it!"
Arne