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Title: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: the Ferret on November 19, 2007, 09:12:00 AM
Any you old guys getting directional hearing impairment? Was out hunting this morning before work. I could hear deer and squirrels but danged if I could tell if they were to my left or to my right until I looked both directions and caught movement. I've noticed it all this season. Used to be I'd hear one step in the leaves and immediately hone in on the spot like a laser.

I noticed this last spring too when a distant turkey would gobble and Dianne and I would point in opposite directions as to which way it came from.

Of course I haven't been able to hear the TV or conversations with people for a couple years now, and sometimes the words I DO hear ain't the words they are speakin and then the sentence doesn't make any sense   :banghead:    :biglaugh:  

Getting old is not for the faint of heart.
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: TSHOOTER on November 19, 2007, 09:24:00 AM
YES  AND I'M REAL OLD (35).  HAVE HAD THIS PROBLEM FOR SOME TIME NOW WITH MODERATE HEARING LOSS IN MY LEFT EAR.  CAN'T TELL DIRECTION WORTH A DARN.  MINE'S PROBABLY FROM TO MUCH GUNFIRE WITHOUT HEARING PROTECTION AS A KID.
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: rbbhunt on November 19, 2007, 09:26:00 AM
If you cup your ears and turn your head, you can pinpoint the direction the sound is coming from.  I also have some of the same problem.
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: the Ferret on November 19, 2007, 09:40:00 AM
Tshooter, yea that's probably where mine and my brothers comes from too. When we were kids my dad built us a shooting range in the basement complete with moving targets. We had 22 rifles and they would buy us bricks of 22 ammo for Christmas and birthdays every year (a brick was 10 boxs of 100 rounds). We shot hundreds of thousands of rounds in the basement wthout any ear protection (hey it was the 50's and early 60's..nobody knew any better back then). Heck after practising for hours we'd come upstairs and our ears would ring for a couple more hours.

Paying the price now.

rb..only got 1 hand to cup with the other is holding my bow ha ha
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: bamboo on November 19, 2007, 09:58:00 AM
micky
 i depend on my boonie cap as a hearing-aid---i tilt my head back and turn my head until locate the direction of the sound---pretty low tech-- but i've found that a ballcap won't cut it and if it's cold i just pull a stocking cap over the boonie---and you're right getting old is tough!!
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Gil on November 19, 2007, 10:19:00 AM
Also have the same problem and I'm only 37.My affair with firearms came at a later time than you guys.But I had an early love affair with firecracker starting at 7 years of age.Paying the price now like you guys,its a pain trying to have a conversation in a noisy place like a crowded restaurant.Ringing  sometimes out of nowhere.
Gil
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Aeronut on November 19, 2007, 10:22:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by the Ferret:
Of course I haven't been able to hear the TV or conversations with people for a couple years now, and sometimes the words I DO hear ain't the words they are speakin and then the sentence doesn't make any sense.
Yep, been there for a while and my wife and kids really get ticked off at me sometimes.  Of course all three talking at once doesn't help either.  Any background noise makes it worse.

I have used the boonie hat method for a while too.  Works pretty good.

I guess I should have stuck with archery and left all the guns alone.  I now wear ear plugs when I do anything even a little noisy to try and save what hearing I have left.

Dennis
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Moengo on November 19, 2007, 10:37:00 AM
I opened this thread thinking you were addressing an hearing problem that JC has???
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: tomh on November 19, 2007, 10:40:00 AM
not trying to be funny, but have you had a doc check your ears? it could be a build up of wax. I had some removed awhile back and it was amazing how much better I heard.
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Tom Leemans on November 19, 2007, 10:41:00 AM
I'm still good in the directional hearing, but I have suffered from ringing in my ears for as long as I can remember. I don't notice it unless it's really quiet, but it's a pain. I understand there's an over the counter supplement you can take to help with that. My dad was a carpeter/cabinet maker, so years of running a skilsaw took away his upper range hearing. He'll be one of the first to tell a youngster to wear hearing protection. If I ever got bad enough to need a hearing aid, I'd still be out in the woods!
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: LeeNY on November 19, 2007, 10:45:00 AM
Mickey, I now have hearing aids for both ears. If anything is behind me i can't hear it at all without the aids. I was a weapons training officer for over 20 years the hearing protection back years ago was pretty poor. The constant exposure over that time it's a wonder I can hear at all.  :banghead:
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: ONE SHOT on November 19, 2007, 10:55:00 AM
Micky at age 69 I too have the same problem I was a Tool&Die Maker for 45 years working around all them noisy machines and high frequincey rectifiers in the shop, (Plateing dept. next door).

Course 28 years of Duck Hunting with My Hunting partner next to Me in a duck blind didn't help any either.

My Dopler radar is so bad that I have had the same directional problem for many years.

I also have Tennius of both ears,(High frequency ringing in the ears). But other than that Heck Iam still kicking and able to draw and Archery Hunt with My 60# Recurves and Long Bows.

Still making Custom Bows and having a blast. Got Me two Deer in the Freezer already, life is Good....ONE SHOT...  :D    :D    :D    :D    :D
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: George D. Stout on November 19, 2007, 11:18:00 AM
What was the question again?     :confused:
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Doc Nock on November 19, 2007, 11:46:00 AM
MIck,

I found out by accident my high frequency is GONE in the left ear...same with guns... being near 60 is a guarantee that earplugs were somebody's cigarette filters if they had a REALLY lound gun... we used to shoot in old quarries, too! Imagine that!!   :eek:    :scared:  

Tried one of those game ear things... but then you REALLY can't tell what direction stuff is coming from... like binocular vision to tell distance...need 2 good ears to do location...

Beats a dirt nap!
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: George D. Stout on November 19, 2007, 11:51:00 AM
I have trouble with high-pitched sounds and can't judge direction especially with my left ear.  I've got tinnitis so I think I'm going to try the vitamin approach.
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Huntschool on November 19, 2007, 11:53:00 AM
Oh yea.... what did you say....

I have the low end loss.. Too much background noise in the class room and I have to tell the students to hush....

Same deal as several have said:  Too much gunfire (most likely the automatic weapons type, etc) and surley too much time in front of thousands of watts of amplified guitars...

Answer to question:  YES, I also now have trouble pin pointing the sound!
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Mike Hames on November 19, 2007, 11:54:00 AM
"U Talkn' bout ME? Thought Mickey had been talking with John and Terry about my hearing, or lack of. I'm the same way. If it wasn't for my eye sight still being as good as it is, I would up the creek. The guys make fun of me when I hunt. They say I look like an old owl, on caffine, with my head turning from one side to the other all of the time. John said he keeps waiting for my head to make a full turn some day.
30 years running and around Heavy equip. Shooting for 48 years and 25 years of Muzzleloading competition. Say What? Go figure, can imagine why I can't hear.

Mike
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: LP Kelley on November 19, 2007, 12:27:00 PM
I've had the hearing problem all my life. Something about the hammer and the anvil in my ears didn't develope. Congenital. My grandma had it and so did an uncle. Fortunately my eyesight developed very very good. I'm almost 65 and I have 20/10 vision in both eyes. It used to be better than that though, I could read the copyright #s on the bottom of the chart.

When I started bowhunting we couldn't use elevated stands in WI so it was all ground hunting. So anything could walk up behind me and I would never know it was there. So I started  carrying a small hand mirror, not too big, something that would almost fit in my hand and with that I could carefully check behind me without the movement of twisting my head around. I does work good. Especially when I was predator hunting and I didn't know what direction they were coming in.

With my loss of hearing I've just I've just learned to compensate. LP
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Bill Turner on November 19, 2007, 12:51:00 PM
I also have a 30% high pitch hearing loss in my left ear as a result of being up close and personal with a 44 magnum when it was discharged inside a truck. The barrel was outside the window but the cylinder was inside the cab. Not something I would advise doing. I've tried hearing aids but decided they were not worth the $6,000 price tag.    :banghead:
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: John Scifres on November 19, 2007, 02:09:00 PM
I'll be talking to my 63 year old Dad and he'll start going over health issues and then stop himself saying "..but that's just old person talk."  Then he'll move onto something more fun to talk about.

I recommend professional help.  For the ears too.

Love ya',

John
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Ia Hawkeye on November 19, 2007, 02:17:00 PM
Frustrating isn't it. I have all the problems mentioned, plus, I have balance problems, so no tree stands for me, and I don't see nearly as well either anymore ! Golden years ? Somebody else must have my share of the gold !
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: LP Kelley on November 19, 2007, 06:11:00 PM
I've just been e-mailed this. I don't know if this is something new. I haven't checked it out yet but it is designed to improve deafness and tinnitus. It is nonperscription and it's called
Lipo/flavonoid.  

Anybody on here know anything about this?
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Miss Kim on November 19, 2007, 06:23:00 PM
Moengo, I thought the same thing when I saw this thread! I live with the man and thought "Hearing problem???? Seems to hear me just fine...most of the time!"

 :confused:    :scared:
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: stickandstring on November 19, 2007, 06:31:00 PM
We all get old together. Just get used to it and be happy.
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Moengo on November 19, 2007, 06:35:00 PM
I'm the same way, Miss Kim...very selective on what I hear my wife say, it's more an acquired talent than an impairment.
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Miss Kim on November 19, 2007, 06:45:00 PM
:rolleyes:  He gets better and better at it the longer we are married.....  :D
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Wulomac on November 19, 2007, 07:45:00 PM
Mickey, I have the same problem. Mine is diagnosed as Tinnitus - constant ringing in the ear caused from nerve damage.  Probably noise induced (guns, saws, mowers, chainsaws, loud noises) Will have it forever - hope to get some help soon, eh?  What???
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Longbowwally on November 19, 2007, 08:26:00 PM
Yep, me too. I'm 47 and have the same problem. I also have a constant ringing in my years--that's from many years of unprotected ears while riding loud motorcycles, loud music and guns in the stupid days of my youth  :)  ....
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: lone hunter on November 19, 2007, 08:47:00 PM
No Mickey I don't have the problem. But I have found myself surrounded by bugling elk on several occasions. I hate to admit this but one time I actually made a tremendous stalk 180 degrees from the intended quarry. I may be in denial.     :knothead:
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Bonebuster on November 19, 2007, 08:50:00 PM
They say that when you lose one sense you gain some at another.

As I lose my hearing, I`m waiting for some other sense to get stronger. Hasn`t happened yet. Matter of fact, I`m slowly losing all my sense!
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: TXRED on November 19, 2007, 09:33:00 PM
I resemble most all the above remarks!Lotsa gunfire,loud music,hotrods & motorcycles from early on(tuff neighborhood),to many hours on heavy equipment & chainsaws when it wasn't "Macho" to wear hearing protection has taken its' toll.  :knothead:
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Charlie Lamb on November 19, 2007, 10:15:00 PM
Heard my wife calling me just the other day and no matter how far I walked, she just seemed to get harder to hear.  :D  

The walking didn't help my hearing much, but the pain in my butt seemed to diminish considerably! Ah the wonder of excersise.
 :saywhat:
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: Tom Leemans on November 20, 2007, 08:38:00 AM
LOL Charlie!  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: the Ferret on November 20, 2007, 08:48:00 AM
Tom I have a feeling Charlie's wonderful wife doesn't read these threads    ;)  

it's good to have a sanctuary eh?

If I wrote something like that Dianne and I would be having a "discussion" when she got home from work    :eek:

Man it was windy this morning and there were about a dozen squirrels runing about. I had a real hard time pinpointing the noise this morning.
Did see a spindly racked 4 pointer and a yearling doe this morning though   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: old coots and directional hearing impairment
Post by: John Nail on November 20, 2007, 09:32:00 AM
We used to have a saying here that so and so was just talking to "hear his head roar".
Now I don't have to talk, and I hear it roar anyway...