Trad Gang
Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Lost Viking on January 27, 2007, 03:59:00 PM
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Just watched yesterday's Tred Barta show (love my DVR). Anyway, Dale Karch interview AND a flint knapping segment. I know many disagree with much that Tred professes, but he is a man of convictions and probably the most vocal traditionalist you will find. Anyway a couple of great segments with a background hunt for turkeys - spot and stalk - that netted nothing but frustration and experience.
Todd
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I watched the show and really enjoyed it. I don't care what others think i like Tred Barta and his show. I don't agree with all that he says but i must say he sticks to his guns or in his case bows.
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I came on today to comment on this episode. I am very impressed with Tred putting this episode together, a real lesson on basic traditional archery and also brings some light to one of our sponsors. As they say, "opinions are.." well you know. At least there is some attention on our sport.
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Personally, I think he is an overbearing jerk but, like Wallcrawler said, he's bringing attention to the sport.
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"I'm Tred Barta and I do things MY WAY, the HARD WAY". That statement alone is pretty silly. After watching him stab a pig while his guide and the dogs held it down, I had enough of 'his way'. But hey' I'd rather get a LAUGH watching a clown with a longbow than that "look at how BIG this rack is" (that they just took at a shooting preserve) infomercial crowd.
just my 2 cents
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He's entertaining. I like him...Van
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My momma told me dont say anything, because if I did....well you know the rest... :bigsmyl: :wavey: :jumper: :jumper: :jumper: :jumper:
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I have to agree with Van..he's entertaining..as long as hes hunting when fishing he can get a little carried away and I usually change the channel.
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He strikes me as Ted Nugent with a longbow. Whether that's good or bad, I suppose, is a matter of opinion.
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good call jason
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I think Ted is inspiring.Yeah, he rants but I think because he loves it so much he just cant control himself.His show is what got me interested in trad and it has changed my life.I dont think hes cocky,I just think hes trying to get the satisfaction of traditional archery out to the public, in an edited 1/2 hour.God bless him.AS FOR TRED AND TED, I think theyre just "Feelin It", or are intoxicated by what they love, and I know where theyre coming from.Live for family and hunting.
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you the man Barta you the man
HATE THAT SONG!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah, the hog episode was pretty bad. The guide and the dogs were the only brave ones there. Barta was just the hit man. The show is called the best and worst of Tred Barta...I got tired of waiting for the best.
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I get the feeling sometimes he use`s the longbow as a crutch for not killing anything. Personally I believe its an advantage for me as far as bowhunting goes.AS far as uncle Ted, I`m just an old southern swamper and I can`t understand half what he`s talking about.RC
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Originally posted by gobbler10ga:
you the man Barta you the man
HATE THAT SONG!!!!!!!!!!
I laugh when I hear that song, and I personally think Tred does too (even sing it myself to irritate the fambly). Dont care for the fishing stuff but I really enjoy watching his hunting shows. He's a funny guy.
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I like him more this year, he has said some great things like anti's are buying our land and so on, he is ok, love his dedication and what a moose he took last week!!
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i like watching tred's show.........entertaining
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One of the few hunting shows that isnt a total embarasment to watch. I like the fact that he doesnt always get his game. But compared to the other hunting show host I think he puts hunting in a good light.
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Well I guess for me it's just like the title says; The best and worst.
I do enjoy most of his episodes. He shows traditional archery and the reasons most like it - for it's simplicity and trappings.
I do think he tries to make traditional archery look too hard at times. He disdains blinds for being too new tech and unfair even though hunters have used brush and rock blinds for centuries. He too often makes the mistake of going with a guide who obviously have no experience with bowhunters. His coyote hunting episode was a study in how not to conduct a predator hunt with either a bow or rifle.
Yes he can be over the top with his opinions but then he comes up something that resonates at least with me. In his BC grizzly episode he concluded it with how "it's not about the bear it's the journey" - so true.
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By & large I don't like to watch hunting shows, as it just doesn't work as a spectator sport or television entertainment for me.
The few times I saw Barta's show, I was really turned off by his chest thumping bit of "doing it the hard way" as if no one else in the archery world can compare.
The thing about looking down your nose at the next guy is that there's always someone who can look down their nose at you.
I guarantee that as we speak there's some guy who hunts with an atl-atl naked except for a half rotten buckskin loincloth who considers Barta to be a true lightweight... :D
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His show is entertaining and that's why I like it,
at least the archery episodes. I'd never go fishing with the man.....I can't stand being yelled at. That said, he vocalizes his beliefs and stands by them. Unlike others who have none and take every high-tech advantage to gain an edge over game animals. Who else would show himself missing 60 or so flying mallards before connecting with just one? He showed genuine elation at just collecting one mallard. I'll continue to watch all that I can see....I'm a fan.
Tom I.
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I'm not a big fan of his but enjoyed this wees show about turkeys, knapping and 3 Rivers.
Joe
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I think Ted is inspiring.Yeah, he rants but I think because he loves it so much he just cant control himself.His show is what got me interested in trad and it has changed my life.I dont think hes cocky,I just think hes trying to get the satisfaction of traditional archery out to the public, in an edited 1/2 hour.God bless him.AS FOR TRED AND TED, I think theyre just "Feelin It", or are intoxicated by what they love, and I know where theyre coming from.Live for family and hunting.
I couldn't have said it better.
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I liked the Turkey episode. The frustration of being busted so many times when trying to get close, hit home with me. Glad to see a show that brought us the real hunt, not just a kill in a cage.
Loved the part with 3 rivers, That was a neet way to advertise....Terry
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Tred has his good and his bad...Most of the time I watch the show with the sound off cause most of what he says gives me a headache.
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I give the man credit for bringing attention to the sport, and for promoting trad archery, but every show I've ever seen him in, he's surrounded by men with guns. Now I've only seen a few shows, but everytime I've seen him take aim, I've counted no less than 3 guns also taking aim at the same time... Seems to me (in my limited experience), that he's trying to get credibility for using a stickbow, but in actuality, he's just another con man winning your money at 3-card monte. The moral of the story - Don't believe evrything you see on tv.
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He also helps because maybe that one person will pick up the longbow and not the crossbow:-)
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Barta is like "The KeyStone Cops Go Hunting" I gotta admit, he Doesnt Impress Me at All. Makes you wonder just who "Produces and Finances" his Hunting Fiascos?? Money Well Spent There, NOT!!
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Any time i can see a man pull back a Trad Bow on TV,I'm gonna watch it. we need more of it, if you ask me. I'd watch Snoop Dog if he was huntin with a recurve.
Billy
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I am so sick of the talk of him but I like the man & show. A wise man once told me that really smart people talk about ideas, average people talk about issues & the not so smart talk about people. Enough said. Mike
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Watched for the first time friday, pretty good show. Better than most of the others. But I dont like hunting shows much anyway, its not something you can cram into 20 minutes of T.V. and still have it worth watching.
Eric
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I like his shows. He is not afraid to show you his flaws. Most all of the other big-name TV hunters would edit out all but the stuff that makes them look good. The show is called "The Best and Worse of Tred Barta" and that's what it portrays. I did have a problem with him killing the hog with a knife. Nothing against it, but it is something that does not come across well on camera.
Also, after preaching about wanting to get an animal inside 20 yards where he is confident, he takes a shot at 50 yards at a RUNNING caribou. We have probably all taken a shot at game that would not stand the scrutiny of national TV, so I'll be lenient on that point.
All in all, I would like to share a camp with him. It wouldn't be boring!
Joey
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I would much rather watch Tred than
Easton's Fred Eickler. Both promote our sport, but there is something about Eickler that is fishy. Like him or hate him, Barta belongs in front of the camera. He defiantly has personality, albeit, quite over bearing at times.
Eickler may be a great bow hunter, but GOD! is he boring in front of the camera! No "presence!”, sorry Fred.
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Originally posted by SilverTip:
I'd watch Snoop Dog if he was huntin with a recurve. Billy
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Originally posted by SilverTip:
Any time i can see a man pull back a Trad Bow on TV,I'm gonna watch it. we need more of it, if you ask me. I'd watch Snoop Dog if he was huntin with a recurve.
Billy
I am with Billy on this one. Like it or not hunting shows are here to stay and many of them look staged or high fenced. Treds hunts sure cant be called staged. Maybe if we support Tred we can get more and better trad shows to air.
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I have gone back and forth on Tred Barta...I think I have decided that until he does something that impacts our sport in a negative way, I will just enjoy the the good and humorous parts, and ignore the yelling and bravado.
Much more of the poor shot selection like the caribou episode, and I might change my mind again.
He is no where NEAR the idiot Nugent is.
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It Takes ALL Kinds to make the World go 'Round. Ya go from "IN YOUR FACE" Ted, to Tred.
I cant say I would watch Snoop, BUT.......
If it gets the Traditional Word Out to the Young People, its doing a POSITIVE SERVICE for Archery!!
Like Them Or Not, Right?? :thumbsup:
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Originally posted by Ringneck:
Yeah, the hog episode was pretty bad. The guide and the dogs were the only brave ones there. Barta was just the hit man. The show is called the best and worst of Tred Barta...I got tired of waiting for the best.
Me too! It seems like his show is about paying thousands and thousands of dollars to hunt some of the best places, only to come home empty handed time after time. That may be fine for a corporate jet salesman but not very good for the average Joe. I think he needs a little work on his stalking/hunting skills. As far as catching "more Big Eye Tuna then any man alive", it makes me wonder who keeps records of such things and how he manages to beat out professional fishermen. I watch whenever I can because he is promoting our sport, but I wish there were better spokesmen for Trad. Bowhunting.
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Drawing attention to the sport by acting like an ass is not a good thing.
Just what message do you think he is getting across?
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I like him and suspect he'll be responsable for more longbow sales then any other single person because of his show. More traditional hunters can be all bad. :)
BTW, I don't think he is even close to being as wacky and off base as Ted. That guy has some issues! He is most likely doing more harm than good.
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What RC said. He is really not a hunter and doesn't kill much. No one can answer this question. How did he get a TV show? I never heard of him. He can't shoot worth a lick and I have yet to see him kill anything.
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I agree with Roger, the guy needs to quit shooting 60 yard running shots at caribou. I can't recall ever watching a show where he does kill something.....I missed the moose show obviously. I tune in, and if I don't like where the show is going, I tune out. We really need the "bensel" brothers to start taping some Texas hunts and a few whitetail shows........
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Just what Jeff said.
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:confused: :bigsmyl:
Ted who?
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Chortdraw,
I like your signature, i should live by that more often than i do.
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As I recall, Tred has killed a moose, a grizzly bear, a flying mallard. I have seen him NOT kill a black bear, a turkey, a caribou, and a mule deer. I'm sure I missed some kills and some misses. The show is entertaining, that is the purpose. I'm sure every one of us has taken shots we would have edited out, like the one at the caribou. I guess I have to admire him for leaving in what he did, even though it was wrong.
I appreciate that he doesn't drop the bow and pick up a gun just to make sure something dies on tape as they do on so many other hunting shows. He understands and tries to get others to see that hunting is way more than killing. How can that be bad?
He's loud, an admitted fair shot at best, opinionated, and his theme song is incredibly cheesy, but I watch whenever I can. Given all the worst, his show is still better than most of the outdoor shows. I appreciate that he shoots a longbow, makes his own arrows and sticks to his beliefs. Sometimes he sticks ridiculously to them, like when he kicked his improvise blind down because he had said he was going to hunt by spot and stalk, but I kind of appreciate that. As far as having a backup carrying a gun when hunting dangerous game with a longbow, I don't see the problem. Most dangerous game hunters have backups with guns when they hunt with guns, much less bows.
As far as Ted goes, I just wish he'd get his teeth fixed.
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i think tred barta is a cocky guy. i really hate how everything i love is actually the ''BARTA WAY'' lol
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I can turn off Ted pretty easy. His spirit stuff just bounces off too many walls for me.
But Barta is pretty entertaining. I just don't take him seriously enough to be offended by anything. I loved it when his hunting partner/guide/friend wouldn't let him make a hunting decision cause he was just an airplane salesman. And when he checked the wind with the powder, and it blew back in his face, well where else are you gonna get a laugh like that on a hunting show??
I think the 3 Rivers episode is a new high point for the show and hope he does a little more along those lines. Missed the moose show, but the wife saw it???
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they have to change the name though,
it should just be called the worst of tred barta.
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The first time some nonhunter see's my longbows and say "Oh, you do it the Barta Way?!" I think I will buy a crossbow. :bigsmyl:
Just kidding.
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I enjoy the hunting Barta shows more than any other hunting show I have seen. I don't agree with everything he says or does. But watching the show hasn't yet changed any of my opinions. I enjoy his mistakes (Probably the worst stalker I have ever seen.) He seems to work hard at what he does but keeps his sense of humor and can laugh at himself.
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I have only watched a few of his shows, The last one I watched was a Mule Deer doe hunt. He started the hunt by saying he needed to stalk close because his effective hunting range was 20 yards. Halfway though the program he said he needed to shoot to 40 yards if he was going to be successful. He then proceeded to miss no less then 12 long shots, gut shooting a doe in the process in which they lost. Finally, he stalks close and shoots a doe.
This was the last show I watched. Not saying I'm perfect but I just couldn't see how this was good for our sport. He made our equiptment look very inefficient. Chad
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I think we are giving this guy too much attention but thought I would add my 2cents. Sure he promotes trad shooting, but if that’s all I knew about it and saw how difficult he makes it and missed so much, I don’t know if I would try it. While I believe that killing something is not the primary reason I hunt, I wouldn’t do it if I wasn’t able to bring meat home or at least have a fairly high expectation of being able to make the shot. He obviously doesn’t pay for his trips or he would want a higher harvest rate. He strikes me as being a narcissist that got in front of a camera with a shtick that no one else has. He does hunt in some neat places though. I admit I do watch him but I can’t take him or his attitude serious as it is not realistic for most of the real hunters I know. Besides, my wife wouldn’t understand me only going trad if I never brought the groceries home. We like eating it too much and people look at you funny if you live on a diet of road kill
Maybe I just don’t have enough, “Spirit of the wild” in me.
Mark
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Originally posted by Jeff Strubberg:
acting like an ass is not a good thing
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How did he get a tv show. No one seems to know the answer to that . With all of the people that could do a show why him
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how much do u guys think the network spent for his recent sheep hunt,which i'll bet anyone 100 bucks that he failed to acomplish1
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Careful Christian...many will say the accomplishment was going on the trip.
Ron -- How does anyone get a TV show (I think everyone knows the answer to that)? He is independantly wealthy...builds ships or something. Cough up some dough and pick a host for your program.
I like the show...he reminds me of a Pal in our trad group...I'm sentiMENTAL that way.
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brian,
your mail box is full. Let me know if you still want that doz arrows and if you have sent payment. tom massaro