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Title: When to cut a shagbark hickory for satves
Post by: Izzy on November 11, 2007, 11:42:00 PM
For all you selfbow folks out there, when is the best time of year to cut one and get quality staves?I found a beaut and got permission to cut it.Thanks
                                 Izzy
Title: Re: When to cut a shagbark hickory for satves
Post by: BamBooBender on November 12, 2007, 12:17:00 AM
The general consenus is; for white woods like hickory the ideal time to cut is late summer before the leaves change and fall. Then you are most likely to have a good thick growth ring for the back, and the bark is much easier to remove.

Actually you can cut it whenever you need it or have the opportunity. It's just that after the sap is down and the leaves fall, the bark is stuck on like glue and has to be carefully peeled off with a drawknife. When you peel it off with a drawknife you run the risk of violating the growth ring (the ring just under the bark)that will be the back of your bow. In the late summer it peels off easily almost like peeling a banana.
Title: Re: When to cut a shagbark hickory for satves
Post by: Ray on November 12, 2007, 06:21:00 AM
I read somewhere the winter is best,because the moisture content is lower in the tree.Ray/mamba
Title: Re: When to cut a shagbark hickory for satves
Post by: Minuteman on November 12, 2007, 07:03:00 AM
Don't fall for the lower Moisture content in winter bit. Especially with hickory, like BBB said already if you cut it in the winter its a wrestling match to get the bark off. Its hard enough work splitting it, you don't need the added frustration of cantankerous bark. You also run the risk of the back checking if you cut it now. I'd wait til july or august and cut it then.
Title: Re: When to cut a shagbark hickory for satves
Post by: ishiwannabe on November 12, 2007, 09:06:00 AM
I cut one down in September, it has made some nice bows so far. Check out Ferret's page in the how to section, answers a lot of questions.
If ya need any help, let me know. Im no self bowyer yet, but I can lug staves if ya need.
Title: Re: When to cut a shagbark hickory for satves
Post by: Minuteman on November 12, 2007, 09:51:00 AM
I cut some in late October a few years ago, the bark came off ok but the layer underneath checked badly. I gave it away I wasn't chasing a ring on hickory.
Title: Re: When to cut a shagbark hickory for satves
Post by: Pat B on November 12, 2007, 10:50:00 AM
I prefer to cut hickory early in the season, shortly after the leaves come out. That way the back ring has had time, over the winter, to mature and harden off well. In the late season you are dealing with a new ring that hasn't had time to mature. JMO   Pat
Title: Re: When to cut a shagbark hickory for satves
Post by: Bible5 on November 12, 2007, 10:58:00 AM
I cut mine in the summer and the bark pulls right off leaving a really cool textured surface for the back surface of your bow...I know it's hard but I would wait until summer.
Title: Re: When to cut a shagbark hickory for satves
Post by: BamBooBender on November 12, 2007, 11:00:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Pat B:
I prefer to cut hickory early in the season, shortly after the leaves come out. That way the back ring has had time, over the winter, to mature and harden off well. In the late season you are dealing with a new ring that hasn't had time to mature. JMO   Pat
PatB,haven't heard that one before, but it does make sense.
Title: Re: When to cut a shagbark hickory for satves
Post by: Keith Deters on November 12, 2007, 01:04:00 PM
I cut hickories in the spring also.  I like to wait for the sap to rise to make the bark come off easily.  This also gives you a full thickness back ring to work with.