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Main Boards => The Shooters FORM Board => Topic started by: Archer86 on March 31, 2007, 11:09:00 AM
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Alright, this question has probably been asked many times. Can a wooden arrow split another wooden arrow all the way down to the target if it is hit just right. Now I have seen many carbon arrows hit directly and stick into each other. But is it possible to get the Robin Hood shot with wooden arrows. And has anyone seen this.
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a robin hood takes a hollow shaft to guide the "offending arrow".Mabe a straight grained wood arrow would split the whole lenth if hit just right.I just R H. a carbon friday, driving the nock just past the feathers wiht my 68# A. S. Sequoia.
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I did it with a couple cedars a few years ago. It was in a bag target, which is amazing enough in itself. The arrow split full length, but the arrow that hit it ended up just above the split one. Almost a true robin hood!I don't know if a true robin hood is possible in a bag target.
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They tried to duplicate it on Myth Busters and couldn't. Anything is possible. Doesn't mean it can be done with regularity.
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On Myth-Busters they did not take into account a couple of variables that would factor into the scenario. One of which is that Old English archers would have been using a much thicker wooden shaft. Remember, those guys were shooting longbows that were anywhere from 90 to 120 lbs of pull. The other variable is wood grain. The arrows that they used on Myth-Busters were arrows with the wood grain “running off” the arrow. Anyone that knows anything about splitting logs knows that the pressure, and therefore the split, will follow the grain. They should have used wooden arrow with the grain running the full length of the arrow. I would like to duplicate the experiment with these variables changed and see if the same results would occur. Somehow I think it would be plausible!
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Byron Ferguson thinks he can do it. Check the TBM article with his interview in it. I guess if anyone could do it, I believe Byron could.
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I split one all the way to the back of the field point..a long time ago...an Acme Premium shaft back when premium meant something.
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I done it, once, still got the shaft too. It's only about 10" of the shaft, I guess the grain ran off more then it looked. My camera sucks, but I'll post a pick of it durring the daylight tommorrow. This happened about 15 years ago, I've tried to do it again, every time I shoot, but to no avail :(
Lucky shot.
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Read somewhere's it could be done with regularity using wood arrows against the bamboo arrows. The bamboo arrows split end to end easily. Trick is to just hit the end of your first shot in that situation.
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Broken lots of nocks on wood arrows, but only a few split the wood at all. Longest split about 4 inches before running off.
I was actually aiming at the arrow. Since I often aim at an arrow already in the target, that makes it about one out of a thousand shots. Guess that boils down to what most folks call luck!
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(http://inlinethumb22.webshots.com/4373/2628224130100570538S425x425Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2628224130100570538mNqCPP)
My camera is'nt very good at close ups, but this is as close as I've came to a true robinhood.
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Arvid at Black Swan can pretty much robinhood on demand. He holds the world record for number of them in 24 hours(he did it over 300 times). He did it 6 times in a row for the footage for his new website. The true split end to end like said earlier, takes a true grain and as said above the olde English arrows were much thicker shafted.
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According to John Schulz, in his "Hittin' 'em like Howard Hil" book, Howard Hill "actually and intentionally" split the arrow in the Errol Flynn Robin Hood movie.
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There issue with Howards was the arrow that was split was actually bamboo. Don't see where it matters to me. Hitting an arrow with an arrow on demand is serious shooting skill.
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I read last night in Craig Elkin's book that in the movie Robin Hood, Howard did the arrow split off camera. He used a half moon shaped broad head and it took a few tries before he got one to split all the way to the target. Then they tied the arrow back with small wire and pulled the arrow out of the center while running the camera. When ran backwards it appeared to be going in , instead of being pulled out. DB
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HH did camera tricks with alot of his shooting.
As with John Sholtz staement in Hitten... he claimed to have measured the diatance of an animal HH took. John says he walked off the distance. With this I was just wondereing who is taller Too Short or John Scholtz.
One tall mans step is a short guys leap. JMHO.