Well, I promised myself I wouldn't post again on this site until I returned to traditional archery again. It's been almost 3 years since I last owned trad gear, but now I'm back, and with an Adcock.
Finally, after waiting nearly 4 years, I now am the proud owner of a 62" O.L. Adcock ACS-CX longbow that draws 73lbs at my 29.5" draw (listed 62lbs @ 26"). I took it to Three Rivers Archery shop today and the guy who shot it said it was most likely the smoothest bow he's ever shot, as well as the fastest. Though since my chronograph is broken we didn't get any numbers per say, it was by far faster then anything they had there. He set me up with 6 Grizzly sticks, Safari's, with 4 LH helical 5.5" shield cut barred brown and bronze feathers that will be done in a week or so. I'll be sure to post my findings, both data and feeling, then. Until that time, any thoughts?
Welcome back!
Is this an A&h ACS bow? I thought OL had stopped making custom bows?
Either way you've got a great bow for sure,and at your draw length its got be fast!
O.L. is still making some bows. I happen to be one of the lucky ones waiting on his list. I just hit four years so I hope that means I am close. Congratulations on you new bow, but "HEY. WHERE ARE THE PICTURES???"
You can't tell us about your new bow and then not post a picture. It ain't right. LOL!!
Welcome home brother!! :wavey:
Welcome back,you sure came back O.L WOW!!!
I am at 4 years as well. I sent O.L. an e-mail last week, waiting for a response, so I can see how long my wait still is. Rick
Lefty and Rick, sorry to be the barer of bad news but you might have to wait a bit longer. He is still making them, and hasn't taken orders in a year, but with his home life taking up time (not to put out anyone's business) and current back-log, he might have to start refunding some of the more recent deposits. Now I'm sure if you've been on the list for 4 years it shouldn't be long before he gets to you, but I only got mine by accident. He doesn't make bows over 60 or so pounds and just happened to over-shoot one close to this mark...and so I lucked out to be on the "I don't care what it looks like as long as it's heavy." list. I asked if I could get back on the list for another and the conversations turned to chuckles. You guys are lucky to have gotten on that list so early on. I should have some pictures here shortly so bare with me. No arrows yet but I'll post pics of them later. I might just have to lock this bow away for safe keeping and get an A&H for shooting. For those who have them, cherish them, and try to keep them safe. I know they belong it the woods, just make sure to take proper care of 'em
-Extremist
I didn't mind the wait nearly as much as the lack of communication. No excuse for that.
Adcock makes great bows. One day, I will get me one.
I purchased a used A&H recently. Is there much difference between this and one built by O.L.? Or is it just the stigma of having one that the originater of the bow has built?
I have owned both and currently have an A&H. The Adcock limb tips are a little smaller and the A&H vary there core materials at times. Blindfolded you most likely wouldn't notice any difference shooting them.
I have one of O.L.'s one pieces and an A & H with two sets of limbs and they are extremely good shooting bows. The one piece is a 65" 51#@28 smooth shooter and the limbs I have for the 3 piece are 41# and 47#...one set made by O'L' himself and the other by Larry at A & H...pretty much carbon copies of each other...I just made a pun!! :biglaugh:
xtremist, not too stiff your safaris? they are too on many of my 80# bows ...
all i can say is.............. 73# @29.5" !!!!
holy rocket launcher.
extremist,,, that name fits you well,lol. i'd love to be able to pull that kind of weight,,, or even to have that draw length
foudarme, Funny thing is I can shoot them through my 102lb Tribute with 125-160 grain points with great results (draw length might have something to do with it, since I draw 30"). They also fly well in the Adcock, shooting 200+ grain points. The real difference is the "Archers Paradox" in a traditional bow, where with a center shot risor in the compound it doesn't exsert this outward force, so to speak. I think there are many factors that weigh in here, but also the fact that the Grizzly Sticks have such a broad sweat spot could also help. The thing that you have to pay attention to is the point; they really like heavy tips.
Now for the funny part, I'm only 5'7"...I know, let the monkey jokes begin. As far as draw weight, I use to shoot an old 140lb PSE Mach4. I've been shoot heavy stuff all my life so I guess I'm just use to it. Would love to go heavier but I can't find anyone who will make over a 100 pound compound. If I STICK with this traditional way of life, I will get one around 90-110, but the quality really suffers. People like Adcock, A&H and DAS simply don't need to go heavy. So with the use of a less efficent and worse shooting bow, is it really better to go with the heavier weight? An archers Paradox.
Question? with the A&H I found that the fletching contacts the area betweenn my thumb and index finger. bare shafts perfect, but no matter which way I adjust the nock, the fletching
(5" parabolic) still takes a little skin. anyone else have this problem? Seams like the grip is a little high wristed...
Desert dude, I had the same problem and then switched to woodies with LW feathers. Problem solved. Not sure if it was the LW feather or if the dynamic spine of between the carbon/wood made the difference.
Aaron
You can try switching the RW to cock feather "in" before you make or buy some new arrows. Worth a try.
xtremist, I shoot my safaris with 250gr field points..it's curious I have too a 100# tribute...I shoot with it a 1550gr arrow (1716 shaft in a 2117 in a 2419 + 250gr point), perfect flight with natural feathers only but HUGE arrow drop, even between 0 and 20 meters..with such an arrow the bow becomes as silentful as a longbow...
I hate to break it to you 4 yr guys and gotta wonder how a fella gets his bow after "nearly 4 yrs" when in Jan coming up it'll be 5 yrs for me.As for having him get back ahold of you LOL I think I'll just keep my mouth shut.
Congrads on your new toy!!Hope you get many yrs of fun out of her
Swampbuck, I only got mine because he missed the mark for another guy. I was on the list for ANY heavy bow he happened to make that was 70 or more pounds. I was willing to take about anything that he felt would draw well at 28". I actually didn't know I drew almost 30". I should have went with the 66" vs the 62" but I took what I could get. Also the fact that he doesn't make them heavier then 60 or so pounds, I didn't have many options. Besides, if I would have said no, I might have waited indefinitely. I'm sorry to hear that he hasn't contacted you, but I guess you have to deal with that when it comes from one guy, completely custom, and not a big company that has multiple people to work on it. He has had some family troubles over the last few years and has really slowed down his pace.
Foudarme, nice! The one thing I noticed about the Tribute is that you really start to loose efficiency and energy after about 10 grains per pound draw. The 1001 grain arrow I shoot flies over 240fps, producing 128lbs of energy, while the 1200 only put out 118 (don't remember the speed, like 220 maybe). I know with other bows, they might like the heavier weight (ratio). The Oneida's, which look and shoot very much like a traditional bow, like the added weight, as well as the Mathews Black Max I use to shoot. I think brace height has a great deal to do with it. I'm going to try out those Grizzly Sticks when they are finished, and I'll let you know how they work out. And if you went any heavier, you might just want to throw a spear next time, it would be faster.
Good luck! I actually had a missed wieght bow that I had to send back not missed for me mind you but anyway I know that happens sometimes.Congrads again and enjoy your new toy
is your bow not staking at your draw length? I have a 62", 64#@28 A&H ACS and I find she really starts stacking when I draw her at 29"...
Extremist....
Why 4 5.5 feathers....With 4 feathers why did'nt you go to 4"....
Just curious....
Actually, I got to pick up my arrows today and they made the mistake of only putting on three feathers. No big deal. They fly well and look good. I wanted the 4 fletch because I was affraid of getting proper flight with either the 285 grain points I shoot from my compound and the rather large broadheads I shoot. In hindsite, it wouldn't have made much difference except slow it down . My next set mite have parabolics anyway, so who knows.
foudarme, I put a few more twists on the string today, bringing the BH to 7.25", and got to do some shooting. I think it does start to stack around 28-29 inches. Like I said before, I really didn't have a lot of previous experience with a properly fitted bow so I didn't really know what stacking was. I always thought it was just the bow building weight.
-Extremist