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Title: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: McDave on December 26, 2017, 11:19:00 PM
I received Masters of the Bare Bow 5 today and played it for the first time.  As always, there are a lot of good tips to increase our accuracy, and I will have to play it more than once to absorb everything there is to learn.

One thing I didn’t like was that the constant background music made it difficult for me to concentrate on what the presenters were saying.  I guess I could look on it as training in avoiding distractions, like tuning out the crowd in competitions or ignoring the antlers on a buck, but I found it to be a little overwhelming.

Aside from that, there is new information there that wasn’t presented in the first 4 DVD’s, and I think you’ll find it to be worthwhile.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: mcgroundstalker on December 27, 2017, 09:04:00 AM
Interesting you make mention about background music... Most of the new hunting TV shows do the same thing... Must be a draw for the young people...

... mike ...  :dunno:  ...
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: The Whittler on December 27, 2017, 09:13:00 AM
They do that on Trad Utube videos also, music over powers everything they are saying. If I wanted to listen to music they have other stations for that.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: X2 on December 27, 2017, 10:30:00 AM
Different format than the others. Contained some good info. I will have to watch it again to digest everything.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: grouseshooter002 on December 27, 2017, 11:46:00 AM
I received my copy yesterday and this new format is causing me problems because I don't have a program that will open it. Has anyone else had this problem?

Grouse
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: McDave on December 27, 2017, 03:07:00 PM
Someone else wrote in about the same problem when volume 4 came out.  I think they were unable to open it on their computer.  I ran mine on the same DVD player we use to play movies.  As I recall, the person who wrote in eventually found a DVD player to run it on.  Have you been able to run other DVD’s on your computer?  Hopefully someone who has more computer savvy than me will see this and help you out.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: grouseshooter002 on December 27, 2017, 05:20:00 PM
McDave,
Yes, I tried volume 4 and it opened and played fine. Thank you for the heads up concerning playing it on the t.v.. I'm going to try that as soon as I get off the computer.

Grouse
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: old_goat2 on December 29, 2017, 03:50:00 AM
I haven't seen it or the other four, but I know what you mean about the background music on videos! My thought is, it's because we're old and can't hear good anymore, background noise is the deaf of me, lol get it "deaf of me" ;-) it's just horrible!
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: McDave on December 29, 2017, 10:05:00 AM
You're probably right, David.  It occurred to me after posting that I may just be showing my age.  However, that said, I still think that if someone wants music with their archery videos, it would be a lot easier for them to turn some on while they're watching them than it would be for me to figure out how to turn off the music that's built in.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: Bladepeek on December 29, 2017, 12:06:00 PM
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Originally posted by McDave:
You're probably right, David.  It occurred to me after posting that I may just be showing my age.  However, that said, I still think that if someone wants music with their archery videos, it would be a lot easier for them to turn some on while they're watching them than it would be for me to figure out how to turn off the music that's built in.
X at least 2! I've noticed people with normal hearing often like "background noise" with whatever they are doing. For those of us with hearing problems, understanding anything when more than one person is talking at the same time is exhausting and I miss much of what is said. Music is the absolutely worst background because it covers the whole spectrum of frequencies and makes it impossible for me to hear a conversation.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: wingnut on December 29, 2017, 03:15:00 PM
Yep I really don't like "over-produced" hunting programs.  I want to hear what the mountains and woods are telling me not some elevator music.

Mike
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: Brock on December 29, 2017, 04:48:00 PM
i honestly did not notice any music...haha.  Got Barry's DVD compilation today as well.  Something to watch when I am thawing out from early morning duck hunt tomorrow-- after I get home
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: Jbseitz on December 30, 2017, 12:18:00 PM
I do not own any of the first four volumes. Would you (tradganger’s) recommend all or just volume 5?
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: McDave on December 30, 2017, 12:32:00 PM
Vol 1 = intro to many different shooting styles
Vol 2 = more different shooting styles + arrow tuning
Vol 3 = intensive instruction in archery form
Vol 4 = mental aspects of archery
Vol 5 = different perspectives on archery form building on Vol 3

I would not recommend starting with Vol 5, although it is a useful expansion of topics introduced earlier.  There are package deals offered on Vols 1-4, that you should look into.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: MikeNova on December 30, 2017, 04:27:00 PM
Ordered mine yesterday.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: Jbseitz on December 30, 2017, 05:34:00 PM
Thanks McDave
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: LongStick64 on December 30, 2017, 07:09:00 PM
I have to say I liked it and wasn't distracted at all. Really appreciated the Jason Wesbrock segments, great direction easy to understand and follow.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: PECO on December 31, 2017, 07:34:00 PM
Vol 3 was my favorite, so if it builds on 3, I'll get it ordered soon.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: katman on January 03, 2018, 04:56:00 PM
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Originally posted by wingnut:
Yep I really don't like "over-produced" hunting programs.  I want to hear what the mountains and woods are telling me not some elevator music.

Mike
Could not agree more, thanks for the heads up on the video Mcdave, decided that video is not for me as I am NOT a music buff.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: old_goat2 on January 03, 2018, 05:55:00 PM
I bought the DVD, didn't have much problem with the music. Great DVD, makes me want to buy the other four. One observation I came away with was, Rod Jenkins has the funniest outtakes, other video I watched with him in it making bow strings, the outtakes were hilarious too! Really wanted to go out shooting after I watched it, but stupid work thing in the way again!
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: mj seratt on January 05, 2018, 01:37:00 AM
I haven't seen this video yet.  I just want to add that the ONLY complaint I have of Uncle Barry's newest release is that sometimes the music is a bit overwhelming.  This is from an old man who is very hard of hearing.  I love UB, and will buy any book or video he touches.

Murray
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: McDave on January 05, 2018, 10:52:00 AM
At first I thought it was just my own personal preference not to have music while people are talking, but after reading some of the responses, I think that those of us with hearing problems really do find it difficult to sort the words out from the other sounds.  I certainly wouldn’t want to discourage anyone from buying and learning from MBB 5, because there is a lot of good information there; those of us with hearing problems just have to work a little harder to understand it.

My recommendation to someone wanting to make an instructional video would be to include sounds, music, etc., as part of the introduction or in between sections, rather than as background while people are presenting their subject.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: Steve O on January 05, 2018, 06:55:00 PM
Looking forward to picking up my copy and seeing all of the Masters at Kalamazoo in a couple weeks.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: katman on January 05, 2018, 08:19:00 PM
An option of playing the disk with or without the music background would be a nice. Sorry if I came across harsh. I am sure it is an excellent production.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: Steve O on January 12, 2018, 10:21:00 PM
You know, I couldn’t wait. My copy came today. Excellent!

I guess it’s because I don’t turn 50 until June but I did not find any of the music distracting. I though it gave the whole thing some pizzazz    :thumbsup:

I’ve got all the Masters and this one has by far the best and most useable information. Lots of good hunting mixed in to the technique and explanations. It’s going to give a lot of guys hope knowing all these shooters including Jason Westbrock have struggled with and overcome target panic.

Now I can just give Denny and Randy a pat on the back and a thank you at Kzoo. Great job fellas.

The bloopers are worth the price of admission.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: 4dogs on January 13, 2018, 04:19:00 PM
I enjoyed the DVD I thought the tribute to Dean at the end was a nice touch.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: ESP on January 13, 2018, 04:52:00 PM
I liked mine but I am only forty.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: Steve O on January 14, 2018, 08:34:00 AM
4Dogs—agreed. That tribute was heartfelt. He was one of the original masters for sure.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: rraming on January 21, 2018, 08:05:00 AM
I watched it today, I enjoyed it, maybe because I aim defore shooting and knew that was a problem already. Hearing it and thinking it helps.
The music only distracted me twice, maybe since I was on the lookout for it from reading this thread. I could simply pay attention more and it was gone.
It did seem short but maybe that was me enjoying it.
Liked the Vision Quest shirts!
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: Bladepeek on January 22, 2018, 02:15:00 PM
Here's hoping those making videos will read this and learn. The lack of music will probably not deter anyone from buying the MBB5,even though they might like it, but for those of us who do suffer hearing loss, there is a good chance of losing a sale and depriving us of something we might otherwise really appreciate.

I'm not a politically correct type who says "don't put anything in that might offend", but this is not a case of finding material offensive. It's a case of "Hey, I just can't use it". I don't have the closed caption option turned on because I like a banner blocking part of the picture on TV.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: Terry Lightle on January 22, 2018, 03:02:00 PM
We have it in stock,have not looked at it yet.
Terry
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: northener on January 23, 2018, 10:11:00 AM
Yup  drop the music, annoying.
Title: Re: Masters of the Bare Bow 5
Post by: Ben Maher on January 25, 2018, 07:36:00 PM
Got mine a few weeks ago.
Fantastic ... best of the bunch . Already watched it a bunch of times .
Watching JRW shoot is just dandy .