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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: TIM B on September 20, 2017, 11:25:00 AM
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And thinking about trying a few just because they look so mean. With that concave edge how are you boys sharpening them? Thanks
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There's a video done by someone on here on the rada sharpener. Looks like it's easy to do and rada is cheap!
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Rada works but I bought the Centaur wheel polishing system for a bench grinder. Crazy sharp and polished blades. Take minutes to achieve a perfect edge and it works awesome on everything from axes to fillet knives!
Roy
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Tim,
Personally, I want a method of sharpening I can do when "on the go". I don't know If I want to be carrying around my bench grinder. I have spent 100's of $$ on sharpening methods, KME, yes, with the Simmons stuff, razors edge, etc, and this is without a doubt the easiest, and most efficient way i've found. Nothing else comes anywhere close.
Here is the video Nick is referring to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyPCO4yOTtE
Please disregard the ugly guy in it.
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Thank you guys. I'm a little slow- I shoulda dun a search first!
Appreciate the quick responses
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Just lucky timing. Let me know if you have any questions. PDK25 may be better to contact than me, he is the one who taught me this method. It is mind blowing when it all "clicks".
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This is the video I remember ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtNBQoVlz80
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Love those Simmons heads , takes a little time to figure out but I use a small flat file a diamond stick then a crock stick.
,,,Sam,,,
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The rada sharpener is pretty effective. I recently saw the video too and ordered one then tried on my kitchen knife for like 12 drags then accidentally bled my fingers with just my usual way of handling knives. Was pleasantly surprised how sharp it can get blades to be. Will sharpen my Simmons this weekend with it too.
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Rada hands down. You'll look at it and think it is too simple...too easy. Well let me tell you, they will take hair off your arm after just a few pulls through.
Saw the video. Put it into practice myself. Now if I could just get a deer to walk in front, I'd really have a testimony to tell.
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Originally posted by Mr.Magoo:
This is the video I remember ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtNBQoVlz80
This is the method I use as well....
Good luck, shoot straight and God bless,
Rodd
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This is why I enjoy this site so!
Great tip, suggestion and illustration on just another way for us sharpening challenged. I like the mobility of the Rada as well.
Thanks,
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I have great success with just simple sharpening stones
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I have 2 of the razors edge systems with minimal use on them.
I'll gladly sell them for cheap to anyone interested. I just know I prefer the Rada.
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Thanks again boys
Y'all buying directly from simmons?
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Tim,
I buy mine off of e-b-a-y. I got 2 delivered to my door for under $10.
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Ha ok - I'll look but it seems too good to be true since 3 cost 38 bucks on the simmons website
Thanks
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ok, I lied. I paid $8.18 for 2 Rada's and $2 for shipping.
So I paid $10.18 for 2 shipped to my door.
:)
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I just ordered the 175 Tigershark from Simmons and look forward to trying them. My only concern is not getting them in time for the opener here in Mississippi. The Simmons site says they are out hunting until the 25th.
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Sorry Daniel - I was talking about where ya getting the broadheads from - not the radas
Missispy dude - also says during huntin season there is no garontee they will be open at all haha. Gotta love that!
Anyone else sell them or just simmons?
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Black widow sells them
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I love the Tigersharks and will be using them this season as well. I get them directly from Simmons.
I use the sharpenning system from Simmons as well, but intend to try the Rada soon.
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Well a little update here. Got the tigersharks in quickly from BW. Shot great. Sharpened w rada....shaving in no time. Shot a doe last night - they are deadly and leave better than average blood trails.....
Tim B
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Tim B- did you start with the Rada right out of the box? I'm having a hard time getting my tiger sharks razor sharp. They will shave hair a little bit, but I'm not completely satisfied yet.
You guys finishing them up with a leather strop or anything? Or 100% all rada?
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All rada on that one. I held by tip and did the back edge of the head first. Then turn around and put in a short piece of arrow shaft and did the rest of the head. Very lightly to finish...
Hope that helps
Tim B
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I can use a 3 sided jewelstick ...a 3 sided file...or the accusharp. Just did some Battle Axes with the accusharp....and they are nasty.
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Hoosier, Don't use a lot of pressure when using the rada. Light strokes and if laying the base of the rada flat on the table make sure to point the tip of the broadhead down at a sharp angle and draw it thru the rada from back to tip. Or you can tilt the rada towards you and pull the broadhead straight back thru the rada.
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I have better luck with an accusharp than the radda?? Beats me but I can't get the radda to work welll
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Ready Edge followed by Smith Broadhead sharpener ending with stropping. All sharpening tools will fit into your pocket.
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Besides shaving hair is there any other way to gage when your broadheads are sharp enough to hunt with? Full disclosure, I am a first time trad archer and this is my first time self sharpening broad heads.
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I use my thumbnail to test sharpness. Rest the edge of the blade on the top of your thumbnail and slightly move it perpendicular. A really sharp blade will catch and dig in. A dull blade will skate. You don't need to push down at all.
For sharpening, I use a paper wheel in the shop and carry a small file and a ceramic rod for touch up in the field. Honestly, though, I don't remember the last time I needed to touch up a head in the field.
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I use the work sharp knife sharpener. Only drawback is you need electricity, but I sharpen all my Simmons broadheads with it. Gets em razor sharp.
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Originally posted by Longtoke:
I have better luck with an accusharp than the radda?? Beats me but I can't get the radda to work welll
I am going to order me an accusharp too to try out as well. It may be better than the RADA for me. Or maybe both will work. I bet if I could find an ultra fine RADA or Accusharp style sharpener, I could even strop my broadhead on it after using the rada or accusharp.
Tim, thanks for posting this thread.
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I have been wanting to try the Tigersharks for some time now also and ordered 6 of them this morning. After reading this I also ordered 3 of the Rada sharpeners which I have used a few times in the past for knives and it worked well.
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I have been wanting to try the Tigersharks for some time now and ordered 6 of them this morning. After reading this I also ordered 3 of the Rada sharpeners which I have used a few times in the past for knives and it worked well.
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The Smith's broadhead tool has always worked way better for me than the Accu Sharp or the Rada. You can find them on line and they are not expensive either.
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Last night I zipped another tigershark through a little one and it never knew what hit it....25 yard dash n dun....I'm liking these tigersharks......
Tim B
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just ordered some from BW, looking forward to trying them out!
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i bit the bullet and ordered the 165-grain Landsharks from BW. also ordered a 2-pack of Rada sharpeners based on the feedback here. can't wait to see how they do!
$15 each (counting shipping) is steep, but i bet they are awesome. still got my Stinger 150s as a tried and true backup.
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Originally posted by johnnyk71:
i bit the bullet and ordered the 165-grain Landsharks from BW. also ordered a 2-pack of Rada sharpeners based on the feedback here. can't wait to see how they do!
$15 each (counting shipping) is steep, but i bet they are awesome. still got my Stinger 150s as a tried and true backup.
You did well by buying them. I use them on everything! 15/Rada is very steep. I got 2 delivered for under 12.
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I ordered the rada 2 pack from WM for 12.99
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Originally posted by DanielB89:
Originally posted by johnnyk71:
i bit the bullet and ordered the 165-grain Landsharks from BW. also ordered a 2-pack of Rada sharpeners based on the feedback here. can't wait to see how they do!
$15 each (counting shipping) is steep, but i bet they are awesome. still got my Stinger 150s as a tried and true backup.
You did well by buying them. I use them on everything! 15/Rada is very steep. I got 2 delivered for under 12. [/b]
sorry, for the confusion. it was the broadheads that are $15 a piece. the Radas were 2 for $12.
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They are a deadly head! A half round file and a round diamond hone, then a steel will make them scary sharp.
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Tigershark went to work again last night - quartering away button buck - heart shot - 50 yards n dun. The tigershark opened that deer up!
Tim B
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Originally posted by TIM B:
Tigershark went to work again last night - quartering away button buck - heart shot - 50 yards n dun. The tigershark opened that deer up!
Tim B
:clapper: :thumbsup:
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Originally posted by Jayrod:
Originally posted by TIM B:
Tigershark went to work again last night - quartering away button buck - heart shot - 50 yards n dun. The tigershark opened that deer up!
Tim B
:thumbsup: [/b]
:clapper:
got my Rada sharpeners in the mail. holy cow! i am getting multiple blades shaving sharp for the FIRST time ever. i have been the crappiest sharpener ever up till now, and this thing rocks.
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Originally posted by TIM B:
Tigershark went to work again last night - quartering away button buck - heart shot - 50 yards n dun. The tigershark opened that deer up!
Tim B
you know, without pics, it didn't happen! :)
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Haha I'm computer challenged - send me a email and I'll send ya pics - then you can post them if ya want.
Tim B
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Tim, Send me a pic and I'll post them for you. Fred
[email protected]
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Alright Fred - I sent them and thanks again
Simmons should probably hire me to advertise haha
Tim B
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Here are Tim's pics.......
(http://i.imgur.com/ISmJLlm.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/oG3Osm6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ouohfcp.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cp4oql0.jpg)
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Oh man what a nasty wound! Nicely done.
I mentioned earlier I couldn't get them sharp with the radda, I realized I was pulling them through at too steep and angle and it wasn't grinding the blade evenly. Since lchanging angle steepness I have been able to get them shaving sharp in short order.
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That's what I'm talking about!
Those type wounds are my experiences
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I guess I can believe it now, Tim. lol.
Man, look at those holes!!!
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watched the video in preparation for getting my treesharks and a rada.
watched it again now that I have them. 20 minutes and they are duller now than when they came out of the pack.
AGAIN: I haven't hunted with my recurve this year and didn't hunt with it last year AT ALL cause I cant get ANY traditional style broadhead sharp.
steel, Arkansas stones, diamond stones, hand held sharpeners, grinders, belts, files. single bevel, double bevel, doesn't matter.
I can pick up my recurve and shoot tiny little groups with it past my comfortable hunting distance. But I will not hunt with a dull BH. this so FREAKING FRUSTRATING!
I am not the "give up" type, but this has been and ongoing 2 year issue, im literally at the point of giving up trad hunting because of this. its either that or continue to use a sharp out of the box head that I have NO confidence in
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Caleb,
If you have an I-phone perhaps a face time with someone who knows how can show you realtime?
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I do have an IPhone, and I would love someone to show me the error that I am inducing into the sharpening madness black hole that I am currently spiraling downward into.
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Caleb,
Give me a little while. We just went through Hurricane Nate and I need to help my parents clean up and then I'll try and Face Time with you.
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Well, I gave her another shot today. spent an hour on 3 tree sharks and they are ready to hunt! I had to lighten up my hand pressure on them and just let the blade roll through the wheels. I am excited to say the least
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Great Job Caleb!
It is a certain technique of correct blade angle (blade tilted in an upward angle) and starting with enough pressure to "remove enough metal" until it "feels" smooth and kinda like glides through the wheels.
From there lighten the pressure to just the weight of the broad head until it feels extremely smooth then stop and final strop on leather or cardboard, or I prefer my blue jeans.
Hair should pop off.
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thanks man! im just excited to get back out with the recurve now
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I'm getting the sharks sharp w the Rada-I just can't figure out how to use a strop. Cardboard? Leather?
It seems I only make them duller than before.
Could someone recommend video? How to tutorial?
Instructions for dummies?
Thanks Josh
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Josh,
After getting them sharp enough to pop hair on my arms I simply do a few really light strokes on my jeans.
Normally a count down pattern 5 each side down to one and one last check to ensure sharp.
And then I put a coat of vaseline on them and in the quiver.
Some use Card board or leather and some go to further extremes of using a polishing rouge.
But for me once they pop hair i'm done, and have had success on deer with great blood trails.
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I ordered some Tigersharks and Rada sharpeners when I first saw this thread a while back. Tried sharpening them back then and could get them sharp but not shaving sharp. Broke out the diamond hone and after a long while got 3 of them reasonably sharp.
Recently got caught in the rain and my blades had rust on the edges and began to dull. Tried again last night using both methods with poor results. Read the thread and watched the video several times this morning and tried again and got them really sharp this time. I think I was putting too much pressure on them after getting them pretty sharp. I ended up just using the weight of the broadhead and the 6” piece of arrow I had them screwed into for the final 8-10 strokes then stropping them to hair pipping sharpness.
Thanks to everyone that contributed to this thread and the video.
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Ken,
Thats the thing once you run it through the Rada with firm pressure to smooth out the edge (you will feel it become smooth, not jerky) from there its very light pressure down to just the weight of the head.
It real easy to go from sharp to dull by over doing it. Once you get the hang of the technique it's really quick to touch them up!
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Yes sir, thats what I eventually did and I am very happy with the results. I feel very good about having them in my quiver for the rest of the season. I will put a small coat of vaseline on them to help prevent rust.